Artcow Jonathan Wojcik / Bogleech / Scythemantis

Oh, thanks, yeah I don't want to just be calling people dumbasses these days if there's a chance they just didn't know something. I don't know lots of things either.

But anyway, I never personally knew anything about this guy, he just followed me for possibly a decade or more and increasingly messaged me in private with longer and longer spiels about how toxic and cringe I am. Sometimes it was because I posted opinions he disagreed with, sometimes because he agreed with me but didn't like how I expressed it or that I argued with somebody else about it, sometimes he'd just completely miss the sarcasm or absurdist intent of a joke post and sometimes it was just that I wasn't posting enough of the content he liked, he blamed my personal life or health and he decided to lecture me about how to fix it.

Eventually I must have had thousands of messages like this built up in my inbox:


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Half the time, I couldn't even tell what these things were meant to say.

So anyway at some point he just kinda suddenly started posting screenshots and art of an elaborate RPGmaker adaptation of my webcomic's early chapters, not like a spinoff or "inspired by" kind of thing but a 1:1 adaptation of events and characters redrawn in his style. I tried to be nice about it and I kinda worried how it'd look if I fought against a (presumably???) free fan game someone already worked hard at, but I don't think he grasped that it's at best a really awkward faux pas to dive into that without asking. It doesn't feel great that he'd have known from my blog how much I wanted to make a game myself and still never mentioned he was starting one even while he deluged me with those weird, trivial ravings......fact is I'm easily still niche enough that a fan game couldwell overshadow its source completely and gain a fandom that never notices or cares if I'm even credited.

When I finally decided to block him, something I never normally do to anybody, he started venting here to nobody in particular and occasionally doing stuff like I shared in the last post, approaching total strangers just to apologize to them for whatever he diagnoses as a product of me being autistic.

I did mistakenly think at one point that kiwifarms primarily existed to terrorize and eventually doxx people, like some of the hardcore 8chan spinoffs, and I'm still not sure he didn't think the same thing when he started posting here.

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This thread just got 100% more interesting. @Baglumch if you feel up to it could you post more form this guy. Do you have any speculation as to why this guy started stalking you like this, it seem it's just because you're not updating your comic enough for him. I mean, I get it making content takes time and real life gets in the way. The way he's acting is just off weird to say the least.

@Just wandering what do you have to say on your side. @Baglumch seems much more level headed with all of this to be honest.
 
This thread just got 100% more interesting. @Baglumch if you feel up to it could you post more form this guy. Do you have any speculation as to why this guy started stalking you like this, it seem it's just because you're not updating your comic enough for him. I mean, I get it making content takes time and real life gets in the way. The way he's acting is just off weird to say the least.

@Just wandering what do you have to say on your side. @Baglumch seems much more level headed with all of this to be honest.
Of course bog meticulously delete all his part so he sound like I was the only one

PS: he do exactly the same thing but worst and never admit it
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I could search my tumblr to show the entire conservation with the part bog deleted
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Despite bogs old reactions you’re pretty obsessed and it’s so fucking Zany LOL. Bogleech has shown in a short time here he can learn and adapt to new information/understand new viewpoints about politics. That’s really cool. I’m not sure why you’re so reconciliatory when he’s been understanding and willing to sympathize with ideas he might not even particularly agree with AND obviously doesn’t want to act crazy which is what most if not all of his criticisms were.

Also, Literally -stop- making a game based on someone else’s hard work. Make your own damned thing. Instead of being a thief or at the very least taking advantage of someone who is being polite that’s afraid to tell you to stop. No wonder he doesn’t want anything to do with you. You act like you have battered wife syndrome.

If you don’t like bogleech just don’t click on his page anymore. There are hundreds of other monster and horror artists’ pages and websites to browse as discussed. There are even non political and non-inflammatory right wing ones. It’s okay to criticize ideas, but it’s bizarre you’re so ass blasted by a guy that draws zombie muppets because he wants to say rich politicians take advantage of people to change laws (protip they all do).
 
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Bogleech is lying he literally never mentionned anything about my game. When he was pestering me it was alway about kiwifarm so much so I was getting very confused because @Senior Lexmechanic and @UnsufficentBoobage were far more regular poster but he never attacked or responded at them to my knowledge. The very last time I knew it, he did some vague allusion and it only very recent
 
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The game is a least a year older than bog last interaction on tumblr :mad: And isn't like he never knew about it till recently, he liked the very first update. How can I know it he dislike it or have an opinion on it when he never DM me about it.
Should I abandon all this 2 year of hard work because bog think it will overshadow it work (with less than 2-3 fan it won't)
How would it affect bog life if I continues it silently
This isn't even a 1-1 fangame
He never mentioned he want me to stop the fangame, just stop posting on kiwifarm

Should you stop? Yes. Yes you should. You’re justifying being a thieving gargoyle.

You’re using the art of someone you quite obviously hate while being inflammatory about them. The same person you’ve been inflammatory about is telling you it’s in bad taste and it really is.

I don’t know how many times a person can pull the “we can agree to disagree” trash after continuously whining afterwards. Like just walk away dude. Are you ok?
 
Dude, stealing designs because you don't like the guy who made them? That's lower than a depressed empty balloon in a six foot grave.
 
kaju bold of you to accuse me of ''stealing'' when you just do fanart as well

Suddenly you’re a fan of someone you’ve been bashing for a dozen pages on this thread?

When the artist tells you to stop using their intellectual property because it makes them uncomfortable and you continue it is quite literally legally considered theft more often than not. I’m not sure what you’re not understanding. There’s literally no going around this fact,

Even artists like Dave rapoza were asked by the literal creator of the ninja turtles to stop after doing incredible portraits that put him on the map. And he did stop. Because he’s not an untalented cretinous Neanderthal. Don’t dig yourself in this hole dude. You should drop it and start something new.
 
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Ok I will stop making this fangame wich was more of a prototype test than anything else >: c

Re: And I will stop posting bogleech stuff, geez isn't like I was the only one in this thread who do that 🙄
Also for further precision for the screencap
(the last one is unrelated and older I think it was an answer about what he should so I can like his persona rather than just separating the artist from his art)
The first and second one bogleech posted was my reaction 7 month ago when he posted this https://starryoak.tumblr.com/post/190543297415/bogleech-bogleech-bogleech-i-really-cant
I tried to talk to him about it because I was legit worried about is mental health (rememeber that I have still hope for him during this time) it ended into a fruitless conversation until I posted this image to end my conversation
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I think this is triggered him because he posted after that a long tl:dr about how conservative are evil hellspawn that deserve to die and then he blocked me. And this is when everything started
 
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You say you have stuff, but you don't post it. I think you're a butthurt fan. Yes @Baglumch can get pretty spergy in his rantings. Looking in to him he's been that way for a while. He's really not as bad as even half of the other people that have threads here. And I will give him this, he was very reasonable when he posted here and that was that.

He blocked you, maybe because you started to annoy him, get over it.
 
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You say you have stuff, but you don't post it. I think you're a butthurt fan. Yes @Baglumch can get pretty spergy in his rantings. Looking in to him he's been that way for a while. He's really not as bad as even half of the other people that have threads here. And I will give him this, he was very reasonable when he posted here and that was that.

He blocked you, maybe because you started to annoy him, get over it.
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want more I gonna give you more this may be very 🧩 of my part but my memory isn't that sharp and bogleech shouldn't be trusted at 100%
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Digging into those old dm, damn I must be really dumb and gullible the cringy debate are rare compared to the average discussion but damn it was obvious that bogleech don't want any intellectual discourse but just get angry at thing he dosen't like. This whole crap wouldn't happen after a quick block without question , rather than try to put sense into him, when he started preaching antifa violence and said unironically pewediepie is a nazi
on the bright side found the context of the 3rd screenshot (wich have 2 month and half time difference with the first one) (I have taken screenshot of the debate just in case but it just too cringy on both side to show)

So put in short of what happen
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Bogleech got extremly pissed about this thing he shared saying it was the most evil thing he found. Told him he was salty and the whole conversation evolved into a debate on the ''objectivity of offense'' Bogleech started to say he don't care about that yet continue to send message

to finish I dunno if it was stupidity/gullibness or a form of conflict of interest(because bogleech art is kinda good) On second tought I think it was more of because of ''the conflict of interest'' thing. Because I like his art and didn't want or wasn't able to grasp him spiraling into madness. If he was an rando tumblr blogger I wouldn't simply not interact with him
 
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Ok, I still don't understand what this DM is about, and to be perfectly honest it's really hard to understand what you're trying to say. I'm going to guess that English isn't your first language and that could be one of the things that is causing a problem here, because it seems that Bogleech is having trouble understanding you too. What is this DM about, what was the post that caused you to message him. All you've posted is DMs with both of you arguing, and none of the posts that you say he posted on his tumblr. What are some exsamples of this obsessive behavior you're talking about.

To note, I have looked at some of Bogleech's rants and most of them are run of the mill Orange man bad, cis white male bad, with a few posts sperging about how cool creepy crawly bugs are. If there is some posts that are as bad as you say, so bad that you had to DM him with consurnes about his mental health then you should post screenshots of that to back up your argument.

Also posting random reaction images doesn't help your argument, it's a very cringy tumblr thing to do.
 
Oh forgot to post the link

Also will searching in the archive, found the weird crap he shared like pewdiepie being alt-right crypto-fash freak,
I think this is when our ''friendship'' started to crumple because looking at the 2018 message the dialogue was way more common and friendlier...

(re: I think I got the answer who influenced bogleech to pointless self reblog)
 
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Oh forgot to post the link

Also will searching in the archive, found the weird crap he shared like pewdiepie being alt-right crypto-fash freak,
I think this is when our ''friendship'' started to crumple because looking at the 2018 message the dialogue was way more common and friendlier...

(re: I think I got the answer who influenced bogleech to pointless self reblog)
Bud, I really think you need to calm down and stop taking everything this guy does so personally. The jist of what you've been posting has effectively been you getting exasperated and outraged about his leftist politics and your previous interactions with him, taking it very, very personally, and refusing to let go of any of it. I get that you're not happy about this, that's fine, but nothing you do is going to change Bogleech's political opinions if he doesn't want to change them, and jumping down his throat over and over and trying to get a personal army against him is maybe the most ineffective way to even try, and doing it here of all places is unfortunately not doing any favors in making you look very good.

Bogleech is self-aware about the majority of his eccentricities and faults; that's a good thing. But if the guy doesn't want to change his stances on something, that's his choice. Even if you liked him before, you need to let go, you can't control what other people think, even if it personally upsets you. He's a guy on the internet. The friendship didn't work. Let go of it. It doesn't matter that much.
 
Aaaaaaaaaaand we’re back to being embarrassing again.

You know, I really tried giving the guy the benefit of the doubt after talking to him but he’s clearly a fucking sperg to the core...
And wait another year until Bogleech comes back and schools us about how he's "actually not that bad,guys"
 
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