Artcow Jonathan Wojcik / Bogleech / Scythemantis

Yes, it's not the MCs doing the 'cleansing'
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebOriginal/Mortasheen accorded to the salvaged lore what behing the wraith is a an artificial inteeligence named ARE who do that to ''protect'' human. Just looking at the savagery of mortasheen world it can easily named ''self defense''

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F*cking knew it bogleech would complain about trump victory
Except trump didn't won, yet he find some way to complain about how ''too many'' people voted trump. Damn, its like he questionning why people don't think like him?
 
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I am the only one who noticed the huge contradiction in tone of the rpg game? Like it grimdark setting with edgy monster, but how bog describe thing is like a kawai desu cute thing.
The contrast is the whole point isn't it? Everything cute is ugly and everything ugly is cute. It's a common enough bit, kinda like those aliens from Fairly Oddparents that love blowing up other planets and literally eat manure but can die if they eat chocolate or pet a kitten. Their bullshit is funny and through all of that they're charming and somehow kind of cute. Hell and bizarro dimensions are often depicted in this good=bad bad=good way too. It's just here that's the main setting. Also a lot of the messed up things the mortasheen monsters do are just an exaggerated form of those pokedex entries where they're made out to be wildly dangerous to humans but they let 12 year olds command them.

There's definitely a point you cross where people aren't gonna find the monsters or world as darkly endearing as he wants them too, but if this is how he wants to play it that's fine. SMT straddles the same line and does a good job of it. The demons are amoral jackasses but they're friendly and talkative. You even grow attached to the more monstrous ones because they performed so well for you. There's this weird thing in SMT nocturne with a mouth going down it's whole body and gross slug stalk-eyes but he had a good out of battle ability. I kept him on the bench in half my playthrough for it and I loved that wormy bastard. And if you like the scary or gross designs as much as the cute ones all the better. Bogleech seems to have completely forgone any kind of traditionally cute critters so far but again that's fine, though I'd recommend that he adds some if he can fit them into the monster roster's overall aesthetic properly.

I haven't paid attention to Mortasheen or Bogleech in years so I have no idea how well he executes any of that now that it's becoming an actual game, but the concept itself is sound. If it were a video game I'd probably give it a shot.
 
So far his quickstarter is funded and over, we have a bit more info on the game mechanic
Like the class system
We have four category; biology, physic, psychology and philosophy each have 2 classes. Their some monster preference listed. Dunno what it mean, are they the first monster you can choose? Are they the only monster you can tame, do you have bonus if you tame them? So many question
The last update is just some kickstarter note

PS: I'm kinda worried about the project fate. With such a pissy altitude (he still haven't gotten over about how I criticized his coloring method a year ago) he will get himself up for some serious trouble. Heck I tough he either matured or moved on one anon callout post. But he just did one today showing is plump juicy breast to assert dominance (archive) I don't want it to become slimebeast saga 2.0
 
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Hi, this is Lee.

I got a tip that false rumors were being posted here, so I made an account to clear up the facts.

The first thing you need to know about me is that I reject hatred and aggression. I remain calm when a conflict arises, approach everyone with respect, and do what I can to bring about a peaceful resolution.

Jonathan and I were friends for a decade, but his hostility and paranoia grew to the point where it wasn't a matter of if but when he'd turn on me. The reason I'm on his enemies list is another Tumblr big shot named Lars or Beetledrink.

We had a nice little community on Tumblr 'til one day in June of '17 Beetledrink shocked us all with a manic string of callout posts accusing our pal Noah of sexual harassment. They claimed to have received constant unwanted anonymous sexual messages for a year straight.

Noah's a cheerful friendly young man with no signs of mental illness, so I knew right away he wasn't the inhumanly bizarre stalker Beetledrink was describing.

The rest of the social circle and countless others from Beetledrink's huge follower base were easily spooked into forming the proverbial lynch mob. Noah and his allies made valiant attempts to calm people down and clear up the misunderstanding, but it was no use.

Bogleech made it his life's mission to hunt down and flay this boy. Noah was forced to give up his fledgling funnyman career and leave all his Tumblr friends behind. His complete disappearance from social media did little to deter Bogleech, Beetledrink, or the countless others who thirsted for his blood.

I made the list when I defended Noah's good name. Now there's slander about me as well as him plastered all over Tumblr and creeping into other parts of the Internet. Someone even made an entire blog devoted to me, where they posted my full name and home address for all the Tumblr psychos to see.

Internet callout culture and mob mentality have gotten ridiculously terrible. People need to stop being so gullible and hysterical and stop stirring up witch hunts. Keep calm. Don't trust gossip. Look for evidence. Examine things critically. I shouldn't have to defend people from wild claims that never should've been taken seriously to begin with.

Who sent those creepy messages to Beetledrink? Why did they think they came from Noah? Did they ever exist? These questions will probably never be answered.

I don't hate Bogleech or Beetledrink. I don't hate anyone. I hope some day they'll come to understand the pain they cause those around them, and will set about repairing the damage they've done.

I can give a detailed summary of this conflict if you like, but it would have to be rather long.
 
Hi, this is Lee.

I got a tip that false rumors were being posted here, so I made an account to clear up the facts.

The first thing you need to know about me is that I reject hatred and aggression. I remain calm when a conflict arises, approach everyone with respect, and do what I can to bring about a peaceful resolution.

Jonathan and I were friends for a decade, but his hostility and paranoia grew to the point where it wasn't a matter of if but when he'd turn on me. The reason I'm on his enemies list is another Tumblr big shot named Lars or Beetledrink.

We had a nice little community on Tumblr 'til one day in June of '17 Beetledrink shocked us all with a manic string of callout posts accusing our pal Noah of sexual harassment. They claimed to have received constant unwanted anonymous sexual messages for a year straight.

Noah's a cheerful friendly young man with no signs of mental illness, so I knew right away he wasn't the inhumanly bizarre stalker Beetledrink was describing.

The rest of the social circle and countless others from Beetledrink's huge follower base were easily spooked into forming the proverbial lynch mob. Noah and his allies made valiant attempts to calm people down and clear up the misunderstanding, but it was no use.

Bogleech made it his life's mission to hunt down and flay this boy. Noah was forced to give up his fledgling funnyman career and leave all his Tumblr friends behind. His complete disappearance from social media did little to deter Bogleech, Beetledrink, or the countless others who thirsted for his blood.

I made the list when I defended Noah's good name. Now there's slander about me as well as him plastered all over Tumblr and creeping into other parts of the Internet. Someone even made an entire blog devoted to me, where they posted my full name and home address for all the Tumblr psychos to see.

Internet callout culture and mob mentality have gotten ridiculously terrible. People need to stop being so gullible and hysterical and stop stirring up witch hunts. Keep calm. Don't trust gossip. Look for evidence. Examine things critically. I shouldn't have to defend people from wild claims that never should've been taken seriously to begin with.

Who sent those creepy messages to Beetledrink? Why did they think they came from Noah? Did they ever exist? These questions will probably never be answered.

I don't hate Bogleech or Beetledrink. I don't hate anyone. I hope some day they'll come to understand the pain they cause those around them, and will set about repairing the damage they've done.

I can give a detailed summary of this conflict if you like, but it would have to be rather long.
Go right a head dude. No one is stopping you nor should they. Just be warned that Bogleech has a account here so you may have to confront him.
 
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Lee the story you mention is very strange. If I remember well beetledrink showed screenshot of some rando anon pestering him or her about his pee fetish and bog rebloged those.
Your siryl right? Then both of you started fighting...
If my memory is correct the only one who started to mention ''noah'' was you. Beetledrink screenshot was clearly anon..
Lee I don't accuse you to be the sole perpetrator (bogleech have it fair share of putting oil on the fire) but... when shit hit the fan don't make your case look worst
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Lee the story you mention is very strange. If I remember well beetledrink showed screenshot of some rando anon pestering him or her about his pee fetish and bog rebloged those.
Your siryl right? Then both of you started fighting...
If my memory is correct the only one who started to mention ''noah'' was you. Beetledrink screenshot was clearly anon..
Lee I don't accuse you to be the sole perpetrator (bogleech have it fair share of putting oil on the fire) but... when shit hit the fan don't make your case look worst
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Huh I would like to know more about this drama.
 
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Long post ahead...

I could write an entire book dissecting and debunking the myriad rumors generated by the Beetledrama, but I'll do my best to keep this brief. It is, however, difficult to briefly summarize the three years of chaos and misery I've been forced to endure.

The whole thing started in June of 2017 when Beetledrink rocked our social circle with the sudden announcement that Noah was living a secret life as a creepy stalker and had anonymously sent them unwanted sexual messages constantly for a year.

Noah was immediately disowned by the community and attacked by a horde of cyberbullies. He later told me that he received hateful messages almost every day for fifteen straight weeks, and it was coming in by the minute during the day following Beetledrink's callout.

Noah and his allies tried to clear up the misunderstanding, and later to simply reach a truce. No approach, however diplomatic, could succeed. Beetledrink just yelled and screamed and blocked people. They vehemently refused to withdraw the accusations or end the drama, saying Noah "deserves neverending punishment."

Bogleech soon joined the riot, boosting and embellishing Beetledrink's already erroneous callout. He claimed that Beetledrink had received violent threats as well as sexual harassment, and he conflated their stalker not only with Noah but with someone he'd talked to named Dale. His callout post included Dale's full name and city of residence, which he was somehow able to pinpoint. He later pinpointed the location of the real Noah, discovering that the two of us lived in the same city and probably knew each other prior to the formation of this social circle on Tumblr. Based on messages and posts from members of the community, it became apparent that Bogleech had gone from person to person sending private messages to everyone in the circle saying that I was in cahoots with Noah.

This is a good time to reiterate that Noah was a completely innocuous bystander with no conceivable connection to the creepy messages Beetledrink claimed to receive, and that there was no reason to suspect he was up to anything malicious whatsoever. The fact that we were friends should in no way have seemed suspicious to anyone, but I concealed it because I feared that the maniacs who terrorized Noah would do the same to me if they knew our relationship. That was exactly what happened after Beetledrink slandered me in a vaguepost and Bogleech slandered me in private messages to my friends. I ultimately received over two hundred hateful messages, including death threats and suicide bait. That count doesn't include the direct messages I'll get to later.

Noah's profiles went dark shortly after Bogleech's callout. He hasn't been heard from in three years, but Beetledrink and Bogleech haven't forgotten their burning hatred for the poor kid.

I inadvertently brought about the intensification of the drama in October of 2019 when I felt guilty about blocking Bogleech and other angry bloggers. I unblocked everyone, and later sent Bogleech a politely-worded message informing him that he was no longer blocked. He used this opportunity to send me confrontational direct messages about Noah.

Backing up a little, some Eastern European named Viktor sent Bogleech some word salad, and he made posts and sent me messages insinuating that I was in league with him. As his conspiracy theories got more paranoid, he claimed that I, Noah, Viktor, Dale, and of course Beetledrink's mythical creepy man must all be the same person because we use "the same Shakespearean dialect." I don't think I need to explain how psychotic that is.

Bogleech badgered me over direct messaging for several days, and I kept calmly attempting to reason with him. Meanwhile he posted factually impaired callouts for me and Noah, and someone set up a Lee Sherman hatedom blog. I don't know for sure if they were Bogleech, but they repeated the phrase "Shakespearean dialect," which Bogleech had never used publicly. This hate blog threatened to incrementally post my full name and address including my apartment number if I continued posting about the Beetledrama. All I was doing was countering other people's false posts, making this the equivalent of punching someone to punish them for blocking punches.

The drama reached its climax over Tumblr's direct messaging system one day in January of 2020 when Bogleech sent me about twelve straight hours of psychobabble. I blocked him multiple times, but he either hacked his way through or there was a Tumblr error in his favor. I made some attempts to calm him down and debunk his increasingly bizarre beliefs, but mostly I just told him to leave me alone.

He was truly manic, alternating between caps lock rage and articulate yet irrational essay-type writing, all popping up at incredible speed. It still amazes me how quickly he typed and how many different subjects he leaped between. By the time I could write a sentence in response he was already three topics ahead. It's hard to overemphasize how nerve-wracking and surreal this experience was.

While bombarding me with rabid insanity, Bogleech somehow found the time to make more callout posts about the gestalt entity comprised of myself, Noah, and others. He was no longer simply confusing and exaggerating things. What he wrote in those posts, and repeated on this thread, is almost entirely fictional. He even had the gall to claim that I was sending him angry unremittant D.M.s while he begged me to stop when it was really the exact opposite. He even sent me a false account of what I had done, seemingly attempting a Jedi mind trick.

At some point the block took hold and I was free from Bogleech's D.M.s. I made a post saying I would no longer acknowledge any such messages in any form from anyone.

Beetledrink then made the latest of several posts claiming that I was obsessively stalking them and incessantly bringing up their conflict with Noah. In reality Beetledrink and the people who'd read their callouts were continually bringing up the conflict, which occasionally prompted me to send politely-worded messages untangling the misinformation and asking everyone to cease the drama. This time Beetledrink claimed that they were afraid of me, tying in with Bogleech's false claims that I was doxxing people. In reality I was the only person who was doxxed in this entire conflict.

That was the end of the intense action, although I still receive occasional attacks. The slander is still there for everyone to see, and now I find that it's made its way to this website. Imagine if it were to be found by journalists or potential employers.

All of this happened because Beetledrink made a completely unsubstantiated accusation three years ago, and all of it would've stopped if they'd just said "everybody chill, I made a mistake."

T.L.D.R.: Beetledrink and Bogleech say a lot of questionable things and you shouldn't believe any of it unless they can back it up.
 
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Long post ahead...

I could write an entire book dissecting and debunking the myriad rumors generated by the Beetledrama, but I'll do my best to keep this brief. It is, however, difficult to briefly summarize the three years of chaos and misery I've been forced to endure.

The whole thing started in June of 2017 when Beetledrink rocked our social circle with the sudden announcement that Noah was living a secret life as a creepy stalker and had anonymously sent them unwanted sexual messages constantly for a year.

Noah was immediately disowned by the community and attacked by a horde of cyberbullies. He later told me that he received hateful messages almost every day for fifteen straight weeks, and it was coming in by the minute during the day following Beetledrink's callout.

Noah and his allies tried to clear up the misunderstanding, and later to simply reach a truce. No approach, however diplomatic, could succeed. Beetledrink just yelled and screamed and blocked people. They vehemently refused to withdraw the accusations or end the drama, saying Noah "deserves neverending punishment."

Bogleech soon joined the riot, boosting and embellishing Beetledrink's already erroneous callout. He claimed that Beetledrink had received violent threats as well as sexual harassment, and he conflated their stalker not only with Noah but with someone he'd talked to named Dale. His callout post included Dale's full name and city of residence, which he was somehow able to pinpoint. He later pinpointed the location of the real Noah, discovering that the two of us lived in the same city and probably knew each other prior to the formation of this social circle on Tumblr. Based on messages and posts from members of the community, it became apparent that Bogleech had gone from person to person sending private messages to everyone in the circle saying that I was in cahoots with Noah.

This is a good time to reiterate that Noah was a completely innocuous bystander with no conceivable connection to the creepy messages Beetledrink claimed to receive, and that there was no reason to suspect he was up to anything malicious whatsoever. The fact that we were friends should in no way have seemed suspicious to anyone, but I concealed it because I feared that the maniacs who terrorized Noah would do the same to me if they knew our relationship. That was exactly what happened after Beetledrink slandered me in a vaguepost and Bogleech slandered me in private messages to my friends. I ultimately received over two hundred hateful messages, including death threats and suicide bait. That count doesn't include the direct messages I'll get to later.

Noah's profiles went dark shortly after Bogleech's callout. He hasn't been heard from in three years, but Beetledrink and Bogleech haven't forgotten their burning hatred for the poor kid.

I inadvertently brought about the intensification of the drama in October of 2019 when I felt guilty about blocking Bogleech and other angry bloggers. I unblocked everyone, and later sent Bogleech a politely-worded message informing him that he was no longer blocked. He used this opportunity to send me confrontational direct messages about Noah.

Backing up a little, some Eastern European named Viktor sent Bogleech some word salad, and he made posts and sent me messages insinuating that I was in league with him. As his conspiracy theories got more paranoid, he claimed that I, Noah, Viktor, Dale, and of course Beetledrink's mythical creepy man must all be the same person because we use "the same Shakespearean dialect." I don't think I need to explain how psychotic that is.

Bogleech badgered me over direct messaging for several days, and I kept calmly attempting to reason with him. Meanwhile he posted factually impaired callouts for me and Noah, and someone set up a Lee Sherman hatedom blog. I don't know for sure if they were Bogleech, but they repeated the phrase "Shakespearean dialect," which Bogleech had never used publicly. This hate blog threatened to incrementally post my full name and address including my apartment number if I continued posting about the Beetledrama. All I was doing was countering other people's false posts, making this the equivalent of punching someone to punish them for blocking punches.

The drama reached its climax over Tumblr's direct messaging system one day in January of 2020 when Bogleech sent me about twelve straight hours of psychobabble. I blocked him multiple times, but he either hacked his way through or there was a Tumblr error in his favor. I made some attempts to calm him down and debunk his increasingly bizarre beliefs, but mostly I just told him to leave me alone.

He was truly manic, alternating between caps lock rage and articulate yet irrational essay-type writing, all popping up at incredible speed. It still amazes me how quickly he typed and how many different subjects he leaped between. By the time I could write a sentence in response he was already three topics ahead. It's hard to overemphasize how nerve-wracking and surreal this experience was.

While bombarding me with rabid insanity, Bogleech somehow found the time to make more callout posts about the gestalt entity comprised of myself, Noah, and others. He was no longer simply confusing and exaggerating things. What he wrote in those posts, and repeated on this thread, is almost entirely fictional. He even had the gall to claim that I was sending him angry unremittant D.M.s while he begged me to stop when it was really the exact opposite. He even sent me a false account of what I had done, seemingly attempting a Jedi mind trick.

At some point the block took hold and I was free from Bogleech's D.M.s. I made a post saying I would no longer acknowledge any such messages in any form from anyone.

Beetledrink then made the latest of several posts claiming that I was obsessively stalking them and incessantly bringing up their conflict with Noah. In reality Beetledrink and the people who'd read their callouts were continually bringing up the conflict, which occasionally prompted me to send politely-worded messages untangling the misinformation and asking everyone to cease the drama. This time Beetledrink claimed that they were afraid of me, tying in with Bogleech's false claims that I was doxxing people. In reality I was the only person who was doxxed in this entire conflict.

That was the end of the intense action, although I still receive occasional attacks. The slander is still there for everyone to see, and now I find that it's made its way to this website. Imagine if it were to be found by journalists or potential employers.

All of this happened because Beetledrink made a completely unsubstantiated accusation three years ago, and all of it would've stopped if they'd just said "everybody chill, I made a mistake."

T.L.D.R.: Beetledrink and Bogleech say a lot of questionable things and you shouldn't believe any of it unless they can back it up.
Do you have some screenshots? Archive it here if you do.
 
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Long post ahead...

I could write an entire book dissecting and debunking the myriad rumors generated by the Beetledrama, but I'll do my best to keep this brief. It is, however, difficult to briefly summarize the three years of chaos and misery I've been forced to endure.

The whole thing started in June of 2017 when Beetledrink rocked our social circle with the sudden announcement that Noah was living a secret life as a creepy stalker and had anonymously sent them unwanted sexual messages constantly for a year.

Noah was immediately disowned by the community and attacked by a horde of cyberbullies. He later told me that he received hateful messages almost every day for fifteen straight weeks, and it was coming in by the minute during the day following Beetledrink's callout.

Noah and his allies tried to clear up the misunderstanding, and later to simply reach a truce. No approach, however diplomatic, could succeed. Beetledrink just yelled and screamed and blocked people. They vehemently refused to withdraw the accusations or end the drama, saying Noah "deserves neverending punishment."

Bogleech soon joined the riot, boosting and embellishing Beetledrink's already erroneous callout. He claimed that Beetledrink had received violent threats as well as sexual harassment, and he conflated their stalker not only with Noah but with someone he'd talked to named Dale. His callout post included Dale's full name and city of residence, which he was somehow able to pinpoint. He later pinpointed the location of the real Noah, discovering that the two of us lived in the same city and probably knew each other prior to the formation of this social circle on Tumblr. Based on messages and posts from members of the community, it became apparent that Bogleech had gone from person to person sending private messages to everyone in the circle saying that I was in cahoots with Noah.

This is a good time to reiterate that Noah was a completely innocuous bystander with no conceivable connection to the creepy messages Beetledrink claimed to receive, and that there was no reason to suspect he was up to anything malicious whatsoever. The fact that we were friends should in no way have seemed suspicious to anyone, but I concealed it because I feared that the maniacs who terrorized Noah would do the same to me if they knew our relationship. That was exactly what happened after Beetledrink slandered me in a vaguepost and Bogleech slandered me in private messages to my friends. I ultimately received over two hundred hateful messages, including death threats and suicide bait. That count doesn't include the direct messages I'll get to later.

Noah's profiles went dark shortly after Bogleech's callout. He hasn't been heard from in three years, but Beetledrink and Bogleech haven't forgotten their burning hatred for the poor kid.

I inadvertently brought about the intensification of the drama in October of 2019 when I felt guilty about blocking Bogleech and other angry bloggers. I unblocked everyone, and later sent Bogleech a politely-worded message informing him that he was no longer blocked. He used this opportunity to send me confrontational direct messages about Noah.

Backing up a little, some Eastern European named Viktor sent Bogleech some word salad, and he made posts and sent me messages insinuating that I was in league with him. As his conspiracy theories got more paranoid, he claimed that I, Noah, Viktor, Dale, and of course Beetledrink's mythical creepy man must all be the same person because we use "the same Shakespearean dialect." I don't think I need to explain how psychotic that is.

Bogleech badgered me over direct messaging for several days, and I kept calmly attempting to reason with him. Meanwhile he posted factually impaired callouts for me and Noah, and someone set up a Lee Sherman hatedom blog. I don't know for sure if they were Bogleech, but they repeated the phrase "Shakespearean dialect," which Bogleech had never used publicly. This hate blog threatened to incrementally post my full name and address including my apartment number if I continued posting about the Beetledrama. All I was doing was countering other people's false posts, making this the equivalent of punching someone to punish them for blocking punches.

The drama reached its climax over Tumblr's direct messaging system one day in January of 2020 when Bogleech sent me about twelve straight hours of psychobabble. I blocked him multiple times, but he either hacked his way through or there was a Tumblr error in his favor. I made some attempts to calm him down and debunk his increasingly bizarre beliefs, but mostly I just told him to leave me alone.

He was truly manic, alternating between caps lock rage and articulate yet irrational essay-type writing, all popping up at incredible speed. It still amazes me how quickly he typed and how many different subjects he leaped between. By the time I could write a sentence in response he was already three topics ahead. It's hard to overemphasize how nerve-wracking and surreal this experience was.

While bombarding me with rabid insanity, Bogleech somehow found the time to make more callout posts about the gestalt entity comprised of myself, Noah, and others. He was no longer simply confusing and exaggerating things. What he wrote in those posts, and repeated on this thread, is almost entirely fictional. He even had the gall to claim that I was sending him angry unremittant D.M.s while he begged me to stop when it was really the exact opposite. He even sent me a false account of what I had done, seemingly attempting a Jedi mind trick.

At some point the block took hold and I was free from Bogleech's D.M.s. I made a post saying I would no longer acknowledge any such messages in any form from anyone.

Beetledrink then made the latest of several posts claiming that I was obsessively stalking them and incessantly bringing up their conflict with Noah. In reality Beetledrink and the people who'd read their callouts were continually bringing up the conflict, which occasionally prompted me to send politely-worded messages untangling the misinformation and asking everyone to cease the drama. This time Beetledrink claimed that they were afraid of me, tying in with Bogleech's false claims that I was doxxing people. In reality I was the only person who was doxxed in this entire conflict.

That was the end of the intense action, although I still receive occasional attacks. The slander is still there for everyone to see, and now I find that it's made its way to this website. Imagine if it were to be found by journalists or potential employers.

All of this happened because Beetledrink made a completely unsubstantiated accusation three years ago, and all of it would've stopped if they'd just said "everybody chill, I made a mistake."

T.L.D.R.: Beetledrink and Bogleech say a lot of questionable things and you shouldn't believe any of it unless they can back it up.
Not accusing you of lying but do you have any proof? I have some link on beetledrink reblog of pee guy saga they're no mention of noah

I talked to beetledrink and that what she/he said
''to make a long story short: i got really uncomfortable anons for a while about me/my characters “bathroom habits”, as well as an anon telling my friends and mutuals i had “sweet pee fetish” stuff on my blog, and i finally commented on one of the anons saying that it just seems like one weird guy is addicted to telling everyone about my alleged pee fetish, then this dude snapped and said i ruined his life and lied about him to all his friends and is saying i might have hallucinated the whole ordeal. basically i have no idea but now he’s dropped my name several times after i’ve asked him not to (because he’s using the name i don’t go by), and now he’s alluding to knowing my address and giving it out to people
i really do not want to stir the pot anymore i just want this to be over but he won’t let it go and is insistent he didn’t do anything wrong''

''he says that all his friends knew it was him despite the anonymity... which really seems like a personal problem and not my fault at all lol''

''i honestly have no idea what he thinks happened that incriminated him, he strikes me as a really confused and mixed up individual and i feel bad for him more than anything''
 
Not accusing you of lying but do you have any proof? I have some link on beetledrink reblog of pee guy saga they're no mention of noah

I talked to beetledrink and that what she/he said
''to make a long story short: i got really uncomfortable anons for a while about me/my characters “bathroom habits”, as well as an anon telling my friends and mutuals i had “sweet pee fetish” stuff on my blog, and i finally commented on one of the anons saying that it just seems like one weird guy is addicted to telling everyone about my alleged pee fetish, then this dude snapped and said i ruined his life and lied about him to all his friends and is saying i might have hallucinated the whole ordeal. basically i have no idea but now he’s dropped my name several times after i’ve asked him not to (because he’s using the name i don’t go by), and now he’s alluding to knowing my address and giving it out to people
i really do not want to stir the pot anymore i just want this to be over but he won’t let it go and is insistent he didn’t do anything wrong''

''he says that all his friends knew it was him despite the anonymity... which really seems like a personal problem and not my fault at all lol''

''i honestly have no idea what he thinks happened that incriminated him, he strikes me as a really confused and mixed up individual and i feel bad for him more than anything''
Agree. Don't say all of this and not provide some hard evidence.
 
Kramergate/Beetledrink reblogged a message from That Anon/Noah Natt that was publicly posted and clearly tagged by Titleknown/TBOK and claimed there was "one specific person" who sexually harassed them constantly for approximately one year. The accusation was unambiguous. I'm attaching the relevant screen captures now (read bottom to top). There's also a detailed summary with links here.

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Kramergate/Beetledrink reblogged a message from That Anon/Noah Natt that was publicly posted and clearly tagged by Titleknown/TBOK and claimed there was "one specific person" who sexually harassed them constantly for approximately one year. The accusation was unambiguous. I'm attaching the relevant screen captures now (read bottom to top). There's also a detailed summary with links here.

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And do you also have your arguments with Bogleech?
 
Kramergate/Beetledrink reblogged a message from That Anon/Noah Natt that was publicly posted and clearly tagged by Titleknown/TBOK and claimed there was "one specific person" who sexually harassed them constantly for approximately one year. The accusation was unambiguous. I'm attaching the relevant screen captures now (read bottom to top). There's also a detailed summary with links here.

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The only one mentionning a name is you. Your ''evidence'' is a group getting fed-up with an unnamed anon who pester them with his pee fetish
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I have a link of bog fighting syril/pee guy
 
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Agree. Don't say all of this and not provide some hard evidence.

There's a lot to sort through. I purged all the D.M.s when I was trying the strategy of blocking and ignoring Bogleech completely, but some of our earlier conversations should still be backed up. Beetledrink made over two hundred posts of this drama, and I found dozens more on other peoples' blogs.

I've attached some captures I have handy. I, through civil discourse, defended an innocent victim of defamation and bullying, and this is how those two nuts responded.

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There's a lot to sort through. I purged all the D.M.s when I was trying the strategy of blocking and ignoring Bogleech completely, but some of our earlier conversations should still be backed up. Beetledrink made over two hundred posts of this drama, and I found dozens more on other peoples' blogs.

I've attached some captures I have handy. I, through civil discourse, defended an innocent victim of defamation and bullying, and this is how those two nuts responded.

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Yeah they do read off as nuts.

Do you also have some of your private messages? You can ask the mod here for help on that or some of the more senior members of the board.
 
I CAME RUNNING when I heard pee man was here!!!!!! Full disclosure: I'm writing the following without even reading his posts yet. Whatever he's saying probably won't make a difference in it.

I can dig up a lot of freaky shit he's said to me if people want it, but I think the way he talks about this situation probably already speaks for itself.

What happened was that there was this anonymous account always sending messages to people about urine and toilets and bathroom habits, and came to be known as "That Anon." Eventually the messages started coming from an account called "Noah Nat," which is just an anagram. One day one of the bloggers in that circle, which he probably names as Kramergate or Beetledrink in his rants, mentioned that the pee anons were kind of weird, and some other people were just kinda like "oh, you get them too? Yeah, they gross us out a little. Maybe we should just finally block them."

So they did, and suddenly this "Noah" and his "friends" just went APESHIT. They called beetle a filthy liar, a bully and an abuser, they claimed that this situation cost Noah his entire friendship network and ruined his life, and they said creepy-ass edgy villain shit like how they want to "cut out [beetledrink's] lying tongue."

This went on a while before more defenses of "noah" started coming from the Lee Sherman account, with Lee claiming he was one of Noah's real-world friends and that he was now sworn to defend his innocent pisspal. Lee had always talked a curious amount about urine and toilets himself, and now was raving at people with the same odd vocabulary as the anons, so we all put two and two together that they're almost definitely one person.

But even if they aren't, it doesn't make a difference. Whether Lee is the original piss guy or just his "friend" he's still now spent years defending that "friend" through bouts of absolutely relentless bombardment, thousands of words at a time about the Innocent Soul's Life Torn Asunder By The Wicked Lying Tongue.

What really gets me is that he keeps making this about me nowadays, when I'm not even one of the original group who got harassed. I didn't even know any of this was going on until like, the following fucking year, when I learned just how much shit he was saying about people I knew and finally stepped in. According to him, my "Betrayal" hurts the most because he felt we were "brothers." I never knew or talked to him more than the average internet acquaintance, or about anything more personal, but that tracks with the kind of guy who also thinks sending people pee questions constitutes real friendship I guess.

I'm sure he's said that we're all just frothing bullies towards him and he probably has screenshots that do look like frothing bullying. That's because he didn't ease up or slow down for years when people totally ignored him and he didn't ease up or slow down for years when any of us tried to just confront and reason with him nicely, so last year, when his threatening of people only escalated, we figured we had nothing to lose if we just gave him a taste of what he puts other people through and flooded his inboxes with the meanest ravings we could all think of. He's only ever acknowledged mine, though, so he either had others blocked or he wants to single me out as uniquely malevolent.

Anyway, that didn't work either, but what did shut him up a while was when his actual doxx turned up. Only part of it got posted, but he immediately confirmed it was legitimate, and not even by some subtle slip but a bona fide "OH NO PLEASE DONT POST THE REST OF MY REAL ADDRESS" type of response. He went quiet ever since, so if he's showing up again now, he either moved or he's just even dumber than that ever implied.

Okay so people are debating a lot on that last page about the tone and intent of my setting of Mortasheen and how it sometimes seems to have flip-flopped, which is a very valid (and for me, fun and interesting) topic.

As something I've expanded for almost twenty years, Mortasheen has gone through a whole lot of changes. The very first year of its existence it was even intended as a straight-up "you play the villain and you commit evil" kind of thing, but that didn't really last long. Everything on the TVtropes page was also still pretty prototypical when it got put up, and wasn't meant to spread around as canon already.

Trashfire's above post correctly summarizes what it's evolved into by now. It's a setting with morbid, over-the-top danger but there isn't clear-cut good and evil; those aren't even "human supremacists," I don't really want anything as unpleasant and sad as nazi allegories. They're just under the control of a scared, protective force that means well, but has robbed them of autonomy in its efforts to keep them safe, and still can't be judged for it on human terms because it's not a human.


I think you're getting a little overboard my dude.

Also the newer one is a much more cooler in my opinion and Bogleech drawing sexy shit is not for me.

Yeah, the old one wasn't meant to be legitimately sexy but have an uncanniness to it, and was also a holdover from when I was more into the "Silent Hill" school of grody, distorted human figures and more Freudian monster designs. It just got kinda old, and it resulted in a lot of monsters that require too much context to "get." the current Harlequeen, I'd like to think, immediately communicates at a glance that it's a deadly, alien thing that only incidentally happens to evoke a humanoid jester.

It's definitely a stretch to say I was just hiding my shame when I'm still doing titty monsters as recently as this year, like the Lascivenus. I just try to use truly humanlike proportions sparingly, to keep at least a faint divide between how I draw monsters and how I draw monster trainers, with exceptions only where it feels right. In general there's dozens, maybe over a hundred monster designs or entire monster concepts completely retired and deleted over the years, but someday I intend to put them all up again in some kind of alternate archive.


Of course when all is said and done he might step in and take all of the credit for the background that the developer put together much like he apparently tried to do with Slimebeast.

Wait, what's this refer to? I've never taken or wanted credit for the complete design of the burgrr website, but the creatures and setting were my own expansions on the Harmburger creepypasta. To my knowledge, Slimebeast has never gone around claiming to have come up with those, and wouldn't need to, since his own story output was still colossal last I saw.

As for the other convo you guys had, I've said this quite a few times now, but people have been angry about my allegedly too left-leaning politics since I started using the internet in the late 90's. There's a long line of people who were "fans" until they found out I had values that offend them, and every so often another one blames whatever relationships I have at the time because they don't want to think they were ever into a dirty libruhl's bug doodles.

Anyway, here are some of my exchanges with "Terrapin" (Siry/Lee Sherman/probably Noah Nat) that he probably won't ever show people, and there are hundreds more like this between me and the still unknown number of people he bothered with this crap:


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Here are some of the original piss anons, not just sent to beetle's tumblr mutuals but people who know them and hang out with them in real life:
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Thing is, none of these even offended anyone that much. The worst anybody reacted was "wow this guy's kind of a freak."

In fact, this is the response that started the drama:

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It was from this reply that multiple other users went "hey, I get these pee messages too. This kind of isn't cool." Some of these users were underage at the time. This lead to the pee account getting blocked, and nobody thought twice about it until his "friend" started sending people so much harassment to "RESCIND THE LIES!!!!!!!!!"


Now what I wanna know is, if my liberal politics are so controversial and infuriating to people why isn't THAT the reason I get any of these relentlessly obsessive nemeses? Why is it like piss guys and vore inflationists and shit? Is it my drawings? My glowing reviews of pelican eels? Is that the grave I dug??
 

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