Artcow Jonathan Wojcik / Bogleech / Scythemantis

[BLASTERRIFLE]

I've never used up money that was meant for a kickstart project. If I died all the sudden they'd still release it digitally, and if everyone but me died I'd be capable at this point of finishing and releasing it on my own. The only way the RPG can fall through now is if everyone dies simultaneously.




(incidentally I've had the patreon for 6 years and everybody knows what I'm about.....also I never personally knew anyone in this thread as more than just some other blogger or artist)

"Political parties and ideas aren't sports teams" is.....exactly the message I was trying to communicate to you in my last response, when I explained to you that it doesn't make sense to use "Democrats" as an umbrella term for all these different things you find offensive. You talk as if there are, indeed, two opposing sports teams with equivalent homogeneous values here.

You also seem to admittedly not care how politics actually impact people as much as you care about people - whether #MAGA or #smashthepatriarchy - simply being "annoying on the internet" or looking silly. The red hats spent four years pretty much calling for the blood of everyone who dares to speak Spanish on our soil and you only called them "kind of embarrassing." Why even form as much of an opinion as you're giving me here, if real ife generally matters that little?

But, you're the guy who also got mad at me pages back because I mocked someone on tumblr for saying an ethnic group should stop breeding. I kinda thought up to that point that you were fairly reasonable, but if you don't think their statement was SCREAMINGLY deranged and you're more bothered by my reaction to them, something must be really, really wrong with your social life. Normal people don't just casually think another race should die out for being poor. You're getting emotionally worked up here because pf how you think I "treat people," but then what the heck was that person doing first? They treated other people like dirt, so I said something, where's the problem?

War torn countries do not equal races of people, first of all, unless you’re in Israel or Japan or whatever I suppose. I still stand by the fact that it’s not a great idea to “breed”( as the person said, not me) and bring children into places where it will be dangerous not only for your child, but to your family during the birth process, or even into irresponsible homes in the west’ where they can’t rely on you, as a parent, to give them what they need. It’s not really that hard of a concept. I’m not calling for anyone to gas all the Jews or hang all the blacks because i think they’re poor or anything like that for living in war zones. It’s just unsafe. Places that are routinely carpet bombed aren’t good places to make babies. If you think this is offensive you need a lobotomy.

Also, even if you’re using the term “don’t breed” to be an edgy provocateur instead of thinking about it rationally in a case of a war-torn country, it’s not even really that horrible. Maybe kind of trashy? But racist? No. You willingly visit and post on 4chan so I’m pretty sure your feelings aren’t actually that hurt by overdramatic things like this. Right? It’s obvious posturing. “I wouldn’t say anything mean guys! But hey -4chan-, my jew-hating community, the ol’ internet hate machine, here’s a tentacle rape mortasheen creature, and hitler making zombies!”

It seems you lack any and all ability to have any sense of humility,If you were trying to convey that you’re not biased, that you look at politics like a sensible person, you’re not doing a very good job. At all.

You’re constantly labeling other people as racist, religious zealot conspiracy laden science denying, MAGA crusader nazis, out for death of other races, then say “IVE ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS AND THEYVE ALWAYS BEEN WRONG!!” when people say you’re kind of acting more like an irrational retard than you ever have. There’s a difference between the religious anti D&D nuts from the 1980’s and people who understand that voting republican means they’re probably not going to be taxed into oblivion and can’t afford it, but don’t want to be reliant on the government.

i don’t really know why I’m saying any of this though. Like I said before, everyone’s right about you. You’ve already nailed me as a biased angry deranged SJW libtard hating fascist that thinks everyone needs to die . Sounds really reasonable.

 

[Just wandering]

It was this one,can't see the 'insert' though,so you're going to have to click on it.

this is it

 

[Hepativore]

Oh, great news guys. I found an archive of the PM that the Bawg sent me in my e-mail spam folder. It is nothing new or a stunning revelation but just more attempts on his part to try and pass himself off as a saint and an internet martyr.

 

[BLASTERRIFLE]

Oh, great news guys. I found an archive of the PM that the Bawg sent me in my e-mail spam folder. It is nothing new or a stunning revelation but just more attempts on his part to try and pass himself off as a saint and an internet martyr.

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There really should be a tally for this guy trying to separate himself from the SJW label. He seems to think its a mythical unicorn that doesn’t exist when brought up and when he does use it in context it’s almost always in quotations like he’s the ancient-aliens guy.

where are these “SJW”, can you describe them? Are they in the room with you right now??

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

Oh, great news guys. I found an archive of the PM that the Bawg sent me in my e-mail spam folder. It is nothing new or a stunning revelation but just more attempts on his part to try and pass himself off as a saint and an internet martyr.

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Much more than that Terrapin guy's evidence.

 

[Just wandering]

There really should be a tally for this guy trying to separate himself from the SJW label. He seems to think its a mythical unicorn that doesn’t exist when brought up and when he does use it in context it’s almost always in quotations like he’s the ancient-aliens guy.

where are these “SJW”, can you describe them? Are they in the room with you right now??

Because Bogleech can do no wrong he's the incarnation of truth.
Even if you show a good exemple of typical SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR behavior like this one

He will either say this behavior is totally fine and acceptable or say this poor chick/guys is not a true SJW and or feminist but a just misguided poor soul
Because in bogleech mind those obviously self congratulatory behavior are not uneducated and egoistical but compassionate and reasonable saving the virgin and the orphan from the evil chauvinist pig in true SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR fashion

 

[Baglunch]

i don’t really know why I’m saying any of this though. Like I said before, everyone’s right about you. You’ve already nailed me as a biased angry deranged SJW libtard hating fascist that thinks everyone needs to die . Sounds really reasonable.

This explains an awful lot right here. I haven't accused you of being any of those things and it never crossed my mind at all that you're any of those things, but your whole reaction to me is based on the assumption that I did, as if you think that's just what it means when I disagree with someone. If I thought that low of you, I'd outright say so, rather than mince words with a detailed response that implores you to just broaden your scope.

You also make a lot of stereotypical presumptions yourself here. You get on me about 4chan and tentacle mortasheens like you really think those would be scandalous to what you consider "my side" of all this, when I've never met anyone who truly judges anything the way you're assuming they do. Posts like yours and Hepativore's really paint a picture of a world terrorized by some kind of white-hating, man-hating, straight-hating, sex-negative PC cult and you think there's lots of people disingenuously conforming to that out of fear or for clout, but hardly anybody actually holds those convictions and many of them originate from articles or blogs that intended a different message altogether.

It's not that they literally don't exist - what we call TERFs match that description point for point, for instance - but I've never personally encountered someone who thinks you're a worse person for being born a white dude or that it's morally corrupt to draw a cartoon with nice titties on it. They just may as well be unicorns compared to the widespread fear of them lurking around every corner.

 

[BLASTERRIFLE]

This explains an awful lot right here. I haven't accused you of being any of those things and it never crossed my mind at all that you're any of those things, but your whole reaction to me is based on the assumption that I did, as if you think that's just what it means when I disagree with someone. If I thought that low of you, I'd outright say so, rather than mince words with a detailed response that implores you to just broaden your scope.

You also make a lot of stereotypical presumptions yourself here. You get on me about 4chan and tentacle mortasheens like you really think those would be scandalous to what you consider "my side" of all this, when I've never met anyone who truly judges anything the way you're assuming they do. Posts like yours and Hepativore's really paint a picture of a world terrorized by some kind of white-hating, man-hating, straight-hating, sex-negative PC cult and you think there's lots of people disingenuously conforming to that out of fear or for clout, but hardly anybody actually holds those convictions and many of them originate from articles or blogs that intended a different message altogether.

It's not that they literally don't exist - what we call TERFs match that description point for point, for instance - but I've never personally encountered someone who thinks you're a worse person for being born a white dude or that it's morally corrupt to draw a cartoon with nice titties on it. They just may as well be unicorns compared to the widespread fear of them lurking around every corner.

you’re outright dishonest and your Gish galloping is low effort.

You’re just mad some woman that didn’t say anything about race said people shouldn’t breed in bad places and I pointed out you reblogging some retarded stranger was just as, or even more bizarre. Especially when you willingly visit 4chan. One of the most openly racist places on the internet. How can you actually be mad if you do this on your own accord?

Again, the mythical social justice warriors don’t exist to you, (unless they’re Terfs? What the fuck??) and I guess you didn’t imply at all I was biased and siding with people who want to murder Mexicans for blood sport at all?.. come on man.. miss me with that gay shit. You’re an absolute maniac LOL

 

[Baglunch]

You said the red hat folks are stupid, so no, I don't think you side with them, I just think your "but the democrats wacky" speech shows that you're too entrenched in the internet's understanding of the real world, the same reason you give too much credit to the widespread fear of the essjay brigade, which was never as big a thing as e-journalists think it was. I did say terfs were only one example of someone who fits what you're talking about, though, and they still drive some of the absolute worst shit on the internet; those are the people who hardcore believe that if you have a penis, you were straight up born with a natural urge to hurt women, and everyone else I know of that you would call a feminist or an SJW is someone who agrees that's a hideously evil fucking thing to believe.

I don't know if you call 4chan the most racist website because you really think it is or you think that's what I'm supposed to think it is, but these days a lot of people even post there to purposefully counterbalance the negativity with more normal content, and they should, because it's disproportionate influence on web culture isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and that's because there are few other places where your comments can be 100% anonymous and still seen by a million people a day. Of course a lot of horrible folks are going to take advantage of that, but when everyone else shuns it because of them, they're just gifting them that influence uncontested. That sucks. That's what happened to Deviantart and it's even what happened to Facebook on a grander scale; its reputation as a breeding ground for fake news and conspiracies only becomes truer when that reputation drives away anyone who might have helped shut down the misinformation.

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

I don't know if you call 4chan the most racist website because you really think it is or you think that's what I'm supposed to think it is, but these days a lot of people even post there to purposefully counterbalance the negativity with more normal content, and they should, because it's disproportionate influence on web culture isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and that's because there are few other places where your comments can be 100% anonymous and still seen by a million people a day. Of course a lot of horrible folks are going to take advantage of that, but when everyone else shuns it because of them, they're just gifting them that influence uncontested. That sucks. That's what happened to Deviantart and it's even what happened to Facebook on a grander scale; its reputation as a breeding ground for fake news and conspiracies only becomes truer when that reputation drives away anyone who might have helped shut down the misinformation.

The fuck do you mean that happened to DeviantArt and Facebook? Those are the most normal places on the internet.

Also to truly shutdown fake news you need to send feet pics to one Joshua "Null" Moon; infamous feeder and child eater.

 

[Hepativore]

The fuck do you mean that happened to DeviantArt and Facebook? Those are the most normal places on the internet.

Also to truly shutdown fake news you need to send feet pics to one Joshua "Null" Moon; infamous feeder and child eater.

Even if said websites are as bad as the Bawg claims they are, SJW-style censorship would hardly be the antidote to extremists both on the internet and in real-life unless an individual is making a specific threat of violence towards somebody. All censoring would do is amplify the voices of said polemicists because of the Streisand effect.

The Bawg is probably bitter because he found out that most people online will react negatively to being called various "-ist" and "-phobe" terms with no basis whatsoever.

 

[Just wandering]

Even if said websites are as bad as the Bawg claims they are, SJW-style censorship would hardly be the antidote to extremists both on the internet and in real-life unless an individual is making a specific threat of violence towards somebody. All censoring would do is amplify the voices of said polemicists because of the Streisand effect.

The Bawg is probably bitter because he found out that most people online will react negatively to being called various "-ist" and "-phobe" terms with no basis whatsoever.

Probably because he wouldn't have his yes man army like on tumblr. And he would be criticized rather than praised for posting his obnoxious and uneducated opinion *smirk*

 

[BLASTERRIFLE]

Just imagine for a moment being the kind of person to be offended enough on tumblr about terfs, problematic cartoons, orange man, JK Rowling or other lukewarm crap, then willingly go visit 4chan. Then to come here and say, “4chan isn’t that bad”. My sides are still in orbit over this. It is HILARIOUS

No amount of hand rubbing merchants, Burger King crown guy, “dilate” posting, announcement pepe posts can remove this guy from his deluded realm. I completely refuse to talk to him at this point. What a complete nutjob.

 

[Hepativore]

Just imagine for a moment being the kind of person to be offended enough on tumblr about terfs, problematic cartoons, orange man, JK Rowling or other lukewarm crap, then willingly go visit 4chan. Then to come here and say, “4chan isn’t that bad”. My sides are still in orbit over this. It is HILARIOUS

No amount of hand rubbing merchants, Burger King crown guy, “dilate” posting, announcement pepe posts can remove this guy from his deluded realm. I completely refuse to talk to him at this point. What a complete nutjob.

I know...it seems like such a waste compared to what he used to be. It is not a matter of his politics, just that he seems so angry and zealous now in the promotion of his particular worldview. I mean, he has the mindset of a church inquisitor hundreds of years ago.

I do not know what caused him to lose his marbles over the years. I mean, yes, you will find douchebags and assholes anywhere you go on the internet and in real life, but when he has a consistent pattern of a lot of his former friends and acquaintances turning against him on a regular basis, it seems odd that he has not taken a look at himself and realizing that the problem might lie with himself rather than all of the Nazi and alt-righter bogeymen that he thinks are to blame for all of his shortcomings.

 

[Just wandering]

I know...it seems like such a waste compared to what he used to be. It is not a matter of his politics, just that he seems so angry and zealous now in the promotion of his particular worldview. I mean, he has the mindset of a church inquisitor hundreds of years ago.

I do not know what caused him to lose his marbles over the years. I mean, yes, you will find douchebags and assholes anywhere you go on the internet and in real life, but when he has a consistent pattern of a lot of his former friends and acquaintances turning against him on a regular basis, it seems odd that he has not taken a look at himself and realizing that the problem might lie with himself rather than all of the Nazi and alt-righter bogeymen that he thinks are to blame for all of his shortcomings.

If you talk to bawg about that he will always claim he was always like that: He will say that he wasted his time harassing and block dodging the old republic forum but that just what he say.
And for the serious slow down of his art posting. His current excuse for that his because during that time he was in florida and it was too hot to go out so he have nothing to do except for doing that..

So far my last talk with him, I asked him if he's unemployed. He said his only revenu is his patreon, etsy, and the occasional kickstarter he said it have taken 5-7 year to be fully substenable, it may not mean much but we have a hint

[edit]
Thinking about that, bag may be sincere in his say if we take in consideration: Before he changed he was alway in a public forum when everyone can see and talk to him. So he may a bit more self contious in what he say. So he may avoid going into political fight. And looking at how he claim pre social media internet is literally 4 chan, he may have legitimate fear of exclusion
His tumblr is another story, he see more as a personal blog...

 

[Terrapin]

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The only cripsy thing that bog posted the rest is just dumb fighting.

How is it my fault that there are dangerous armed psychos all over the country? I'm just taking reasonable precautions. Current events have reinforced my conviction.

 

[Just wandering]

How is it my fault that there are dangerous armed psychos all over the country? I'm just taking reasonable precautions. Current events have reinforced my conviction.

seriously are you medicated or not? Because you have serious issue to believe people will got to you house and gun your down because of internet infighting

 

[Terrapin]

Because you have serious issue to believe people will got to you house and gun your down because of internet infighting

That's easy for you to say. You don't know what it's like to be hated by thousands of people through no fault of your own. You haven't had your home address displayed for weeks on a blog dedicated solely to vilifying you.

Beetledrink and Bogleech are both Tumblr-famous figures. There's a staggering number of reality-deprived Tumblrites hanging on their every word. Each time one of them posts about me I receive a new batch of hateful messages. Many of them are extremely disturbing. It's terrifying to know that these people are walking free and probably know where to find me if they ever decide to take their violent fantasies into the physical world.

Besides, this sort of thing isn't unprecedented or even rare. Cyberstalkers do commit violence, and influencers do incite violence. This is just part of the world we live in now that the Internet has become gigantic and disgusting.

Finally, you've watched Bogleech for years without being blinded by his charisma. You've seen his dark side. You know how obsessed he is over the people on his enemies list, and how generally deranged his thoughts and actions can get. Can't you just picture him collecting my pelt?

 

[Just wandering]

That's easy for you to say. You don't know what it's like to be hated by thousands of people through no fault of your own. You haven't had your home address displayed for weeks on a blog dedicated solely to vilifying you.

Beetledrink and Bogleech are both Tumblr-famous figures. There's a staggering number of reality-deprived Tumblrites hanging on their every word. Each time one of them posts about me I receive a new batch of hateful messages. Many of them are extremely disturbing. It's terrifying to know that these people are walking free and probably know where to find me if they ever decide to take their violent fantasies into the physical world.

Besides, this sort of thing isn't unprecedented or even rare. Cyberstalkers do commit violence, and influencers do incite violence. This is just part of the world we live in now that the Internet has become gigantic and disgusting.

Finally, you've watched Bogleech for years without being blinded by his charisma. You've seen his dark side. You know how obsessed he is over the people on his enemies list, and how generally deranged his thoughts and actions can get. Can't you just picture him collecting my pelt?

you wouldn't have thousand of hater if you just stopped posting your schizophrenic rambling and throwing dox treat at random bystander and cyberstalking them. In the end it all your fault if your in deepshit and yet you find way to dig deeper in it..

I even hesitate to call bawg for a good slap fight because in the end it was pretty boring

 

[Terrapin]

you wouldn't have thousand of hater if you just stopped posting your schizophrenic rambling and throwing dox treat at random bystander and cyberstalking them. In the end it all your fault if your in deepshit and yet you find way to dig deeper in it..

Those are all Bogleech's inventions. I never did any of it.