Joss Whedon returns to HBO with new series The Nevers

[Krokodil Overdose]

"a gang of Victorian women"

Lol

Am I the only one who can't help but think of the Monty Python "Hell's Grannies" sketch on hearing that?

I saw a bit of the show, and from what I can tell, it's got that slow, bloated, unfocused feel that's pretty much epidemic in the made-for-streaming market. Not having to worry about time slots and run time has been a disaster for the human race

 

[jorgoth]

She kind of looked like Sarah Michelle Gellar at times to me as well, but maybe that's just me.

I watch these things while I'm doing other stuff, so I probably miss things, but to me that whole 6th episode didn't make any sense. To me it doesn't matter why Molly killed herself if someone or something else is occupying her body now. Does the thing remember that past? I don't get that whole future scene with Claudia Black, either. I don't know what it's setting up, and I don't care. I was more interested in the hanging and what happened after that. If I had been watching this week to week, I would have rage quit the show after something like this.

That whole future sequence is very "tell, don't show", which is only made worse by the weird terminology they use. I'm guessing they ran out of budget for producing a scifi-sequence that makes sense.

Also, given that Joss Whedon was replaced mid-production, and that the series is being released in 2 6 episode streaks, this may well have been the episode that got him fired.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Also, given that Joss Whedon was replaced mid-production, and that the series is being released in 2 6 episode streaks, this may well have been the episode that got him fired.

It is reassuring to know that even in Clownworld somethings will never change

 

[jorgoth]

I was reading up on its ratings by critics, and they're middling, like 57/100 on Metacritic, which sounds about right to me. If Trump was still in office I have no doubt that the rating would be 157/100. I guess even critics can be on point if they aren't circling the wagons to protect their precious little clique.

 

[LordofTendons]

https://www.cbr.com/the-nevers-midseason-finale-explained/

If it has to be explained like this, maybe you should have left it on the cutting room floor.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Also, given that Joss Whedon was replaced mid-production, and that the series is being released in 2 6 episode streaks, this may well have been the episode that got him fired.

I don't think he was fired for anything on the show. He got sorta MeToo'd by the casts of Buffy and Angel and was pretty much blacklisted, even losing his then upcoming Batgirl movie.

 

[Oats12345]

I don't think he was fired for anything on the show. He got sorta MeToo'd by the casts of Buffy and Angel and was pretty much blacklisted, even losing his then upcoming Batgirl movie.

Well it was just karma coming back to bite his ass

 

[Syaoran Li]

I don't think he was fired for anything on the show. He got sorta MeToo'd by the casts of Buffy and Angel and was pretty much blacklisted, even losing his then upcoming Batgirl movie.

I'd post the Joker clip where he shoots Robert DeNiro but I think that meme's way past played out.

 

[jorgoth]

So I oftentimes like to use Youtube as a barometer for something's popularity, and the numbers aren't good. Anything besides the trailers and the view counts struggle to break 10k. For comparison Raised by Wolves has clips with millions of views, which isn't fantastic but isn't abysmal either.

 

[jorgoth]

So Netflix has an X-Men ripoff (Umbrella Academy), HBOMax has an X-Men ripoff (The Nevers), and now Disney+ has one too(The Mysterious Benedict Society). And with the cast of each one you can figure out who the channel is geared towards.

• Netflix is geared towards directionless thirty-somethings wishing they were still in college
• HBOMax is geared towards pretentious theater-fags who would be watching Netflix but have managed to make a living doing social justice shit, meaning they can afford two streaming subscriptions. Think Lindsay Ellis.
• Disney+ is geared towards little kids with professional-managerial-class helicopter parents, and also pedophiles.

 

[Backyard8405]

HBO's The Nevers Cancelled After One Season

only lasted one season. do you think it was the joss whedon accusations that killed it as he had to step away from the project and let other people take control? or was it doomed from the start from the foundations of joss whedon's imagination?

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

HBO's The Nevers Cancelled After One Season

only lasted one season. do you think it was the joss whedon accusations that killed it as he had to step away from the project and let other people take control? or was it doomed from the start from the foundations of joss whedon's imagination?

the dirty little secret of Joss Whedon projects is aside from Buffy none of them were popular, because they all sucked. Remember Dollhouse? Avengers 2? He lucked into stardom with the Buffy franchise, failed with Firefly, got a lucky gig with Avengers and then became geek royalty to soy consoomers of the early 2010s until Agents of Shield, Avengers 2 and him being a shitty person made people realize Buffy was a fluke

Okay so I sat through all 6 episodes and while I think the show MAY go somewhere interesting everything is so unfocused. Part of me thinks that now that all the cards are on the table, the show might be more focused than before, but mostly I think adding time travel and aliens and body-switching into the mix can't possibly make things more comprehensible.

The whole sequence with Molly pre-suicide contrasted with Zephyr in the insane asylum was, to me, obviously about emphasizing just how dreary life was before feminism, and contrasting her with Zephyr, who is SO COOL AND EMPOWERED SHE BEATS THE SHIT OUT OF PEOPLE TALKS LIKE BUFFY AND FUCKS BLACK DUDES ISN'T SHE SO COOL

So it's just like Edgar Wright's new movie lmao

 

[jorgoth]

You're definitely right about the "lucky gig" part with Avengers 1. It's a very basic movie compared to a lot of the other Marvel movies both before and afterwards, it's just so hammy and simplistic. It was always going to do well just because of its name.

 

[BrunoMattei]

the dirty little secret of Joss Whedon projects is aside from Buffy none of them were popular, because they all sucked. Remember Dollhouse? Avengers 2? He lucked into stardom with the Buffy franchise, failed with Firefly, got a lucky gig with Avengers and then became geek royalty to soy consoomers of the early 2010s until Agents of Shield, Avengers 2 and him being a shitty person made people realize Buffy was a fluke

So it's just like Edgar Wright's new movie lmao

Angel was good for a while. But yeah.

 

[Quarterback Rex Grossman]

Apparently he wrote 90% of the dialogue for Speed, which is one of the great '90s action films.

Lol at officially cancelling a show that hasn't been on the air in three years. Did zoomies really need that closure?