Joss Whedon returns to HBO with new series The Nevers

I would bet he will rip off The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and will include princesses from asian and african kingdoms do propulse equality.
Tumblr, the long-ass feature.
 
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The Shadow said:
I wonder who he's gonna blame when this one fails.
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Off the top of my head:
1. Trump
2. Russians
3. GamerGate
4. Those dang dirty trolls
5. Muh sore giney

Or really any combination of the above. It can't possibly be him, that his shtick has gotten old and he can't avoid mounting his hobby horses like they're a petite brunette actress in the absence of hard editorial oversight and/or collaborators who can keep him in line.
 
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mate said:
I just don't get it. As far as I'm aware all the Firefly cast are alive. Why not do one season to finish it properly and remove the film from the canon? Yeah they're all older but that could still work. I guarantee it would have eyeballs on it.
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I think people tend to not understand how much it costs to make Firefly versus the amount of revenue it would generate. Yeah, it will have eyeballs, but not nearly enough.
 
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Someone in a Tree said:
I think people tend to not understand how much it costs to make Firefly versus the amount of revenue it would generate. Yeah, it will have eyeballs, but not nearly enough.
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I'd be interested to see what the budget is for his new show. I'm sure that using that very same budget on a show that already has a devoted audience would get better results.

Just because its set in space doesn't mean it's actually filmed in space. The sets, costumes and special effects in Firefly weren't exactly top notch, I can't see how it was expensive in comparison to other shows.
 
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I hate this guys name, also, yet another blatant propaganda masquerading as misrepresented history.
 
mate said:
I'd be interested to see what the budget is for his new show. I'm sure that using that very same budget on a show that already has a devoted audience would get better results.

Just because its set in space doesn't mean it's actually filmed in space. The sets, costumes and special effects in Firefly weren't exactly top notch, I can't see how it was expensive in comparison to other shows.
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I'm not saying it was excessively expensive. I'm saying the size of the audience wouldn't cover the cost. If it did, it would have been revived a long time ago.
 
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mate said:
You might be right. I kind of have the feeling that its just not the sort of project Whedon wants to be attached to. White male hero and all that.
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Obvious solution is to make Mal into a bumbling retard while everyone else becomes perfect and hyper competent ay everything, and Jayne is just never brought up at all.
 
This sounds like a parody of a Joss Whedon show. He's probably hit the bottom of his career. Dollhouse had its moments thanks to some really good actors/actresses carrying the one that presumably banged him for the lead role, but it was still a clusterfuck and he's been slipping for years. I doubt it will be good. HBO is going downhill too anyway.

mate said:
Just because its set in space doesn't mean it's actually filmed in space. The sets, costumes and special effects in Firefly weren't exactly top notch, I can't see how it was expensive in comparison to other shows.
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Yeah the Fed infantry were wearing left over props from Starship Troopers.

neverendingmidi said:
I read the article, and I still have no idea what the plot/concept of this show is.
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Well there's these women see, but they're tough. Not only that, but society doesn't want them to be tough. Can you believe it?
 
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HBO doesn't sound like the bottom of the barrel to me. That would be something like The CW perhaps. But yeah, the idea sounds pretty vanilla to me. No doubt the whedon fanboys will back him all the way, and praise this as the next big thing.

You're also bang on about his dialogue. I'm rewatching Buffy/Angel right now and it just sounds soooo cheesy.
 
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AnAspieWithAVengeance said:
HBO doesn't sound like the bottom of the barrel to me. That would be something like The CW perhaps.
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Which is where Whedon got his big break (The CW being the combined efforts of The WB and UPN). Yes, I know about the Buffy movie and his contributions to Toy Story, but the Buffy series is where this cult of personality began. The low standards for success is probably what allowed Buffy to continue and thrive. Had it performed like Firefly with a Fox budget, it would have been cancelled after half a season, too.
 
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I know where Whedon came from, but that's really where he belongs. No offence but The WB had much better stuff in its day than the CW ever did or ever will. Know your limits, and when nothing else works, still to what you know.
 
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I'm going to continue studiously ignoring any Whedon product in part because I can't stand that the style of "writing" people like him have unleashed on the world. It's not just because he helped popularize that sort of constant winking and nodding and "subversion" of cliches that often stops just a millimeter short of Whedon and others having characters turn to directly address the audience with a wink and a nod and say "Boy that sure is a cliche, huh?!?"

I decided I did not care for Whedon because to me he relies too much on pastiche um like dialogue to obscure a want of drama or character. If every character indulging in ironical uptalking zingers didn't get me, the over done over-description would. Whedon obviously has always had trouble with using a dozen words inside quotation marks, followed by a noun, hyphen and the word "thing" or "thingy" wherever a simple adjective would do. You could call it the "Whedonite style of imprecise verbosity and like, putting word-things together while, like moving your hands around" speech-thingy.
 
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