UN Judge Says Brits to stupid for pointy objects - Insists knives must be filed down and dulled, like the citizens

And tyranny takes one more step in the UK. A Major Judge declares that all knives should be filed down. So apparently they cannot be used as knives. Because Brits are clearly small children who can't be trusted with anything sharp

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ng-solution-soaring-violent-crime-judge-says/

judge has proposed a nationwide programme to file down the points of kitchen knives as a solution to the country’s soaring knife crime epidemic.

Last week in his valedictory address, retiring Luton Crown Court Judge Nic Madge spoke of his concern that carrying a knife had become routine in some circles and called on the Government to ban the sale of large pointed kitchen knives.

Latest figures show stabbing deaths among teenagers and young adults have reached the highest level for eight years, and knife crime overall rose 22 per cent in 2017.

In the past two months, he said, there have been 77 knife-related incidents in Bedfordshire, including three killings.

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Luton Crown Court Judge Nic Madge said he was concerned that carrying a knife had become routine in some circles CREDIT: SBNA
Judge Madge told the assembled judges, barristers and court staff: “These offences often seem motiveless - one boy was stabbed because he had an argument a couple of years before at his junior school.”

He said laws designed to reduce the availability of weapons to young would-be offenders had had “almost no effect”, since the vast majority had merely taken knives from a cutlery drawer.

He said: “A few of the blades carried by youths are so called ‘Rambo knives’ or samurai swords. They though are a very small minority.


"The reason why these measures have little effect is that the vast majority of knives carried by youths are ordinary kitchen knives. Every kitchen contains lethal knives which are potential murder weapons.

"Accordingly, it is very easy for any youth who wants to obtain a knife to take it from the kitchen drawer in his home or in the home of one of his friends.”

As a result - said the judge - the most common knife a youth will take out is eight to ten inches, long and pointed, from his mother's cutlery tray.

He asked: “But why we do need eight-inch or ten-inch kitchen knives with points?

“Butchers and fishmongers do, but how often, if at all, does a domestic chef use the point of an eight-inch or ten-inch knife? Rarely, if at all."

"Acknowledging that any blade could cause injury, the judge pointed out “slash wounds are rarely fatal.”

So, he said: “I would urge all those with any role in relation to knives - manufacturers, shops, the police, local authorities, the government - to consider preventing the sale of long pointed knives, except in rare, defined, circumstances, and replacing such knives with rounded ends.

"It might even be that the police could organise a programme whereby the owners of kitchen knives, which have been properly and lawfully bought for culinary purposes, could be taken somewhere to be modified, with the points being ground down into rounded ends," he said.

Office for National statistics figures published in February revealed 215 fatal stabbings had been recorded by police in the 12 months to March 2017.


This was on par with the previous year’s 212 stabbing deaths but a marked increase on the 186 in the year to March 2015.

The latest figures show ten 16 or 17 year olds lost their lives in the year to March 2017, as well as 51 people aged between 18 and 24. The combined total is the highest since 2008/9.

In the first 100 days of 2018, 53 people were killed in the capital alone, many of them victims of knife crime.

New tougher sentencing guidelines for knife crime were introduced in March, with gang membership or carrying a concealed weapon both identified as aggravating factors which can increase a jail term handed down for a knife offence.

The Sentencing council said the reforms were intended to “reflect Parliament’s concern about the social problem of offenders carrying knives.”

No opinion yet on "scissors" although the safe bet is Brits will only be allowed those little plastic ones. And then only when under direct government supervision for fear they might hurt themselves.
 
This is really silly considering that you can't ban knives even from highly restricted areas such as her majesty's prisons.
If people can stab each other even though they're subject to body searches and have their cells checked regularly, enforcing this on the outside is impossible.
All you need is a toothbrush (I know, they are rare on that god-forsaken island) and you can go and stab people.
 
Bullshit like this is why we have separation of powers here. Judges don't literally just to make up laws they think would be a good idea. It doesn't stop the problem of dumb laws, since dumb politicians can still get together and pass them, but at least you know where they're coming from and can unelect them if they get dumb enough.

Can we just ban dickheads instead? Heaven forfend we attempt to deal with the reasons why kids think it's big and hard to shank other kids.

I think your idiot judge problem is causing more trouble. Why not ban idiot judges?

ETA:

judge has proposed

Oh good this is just an idiotic idea from an idiot, not an actual thing. Yet.
 
In all reality, I find the UK drowning in earth and regulations. The UK is like a overbearing mother, and I hate those.
 
That a huge idiot like this is allowed to be a judge is concerning enough.

Babe, you have no idea.

Alright legal kiwis, tell your favourite eyewitness judge story.

I’ll start: instructed counsel in a civil proof where the judge brought his thoroughly grumpy retired sheepdog to court with him every day. Rural courts have their own ways. Doge was given the full run of the courtroom including leading of all evidence. Doge took a severe dislike to opposing counsel and bit him several times during the trial.

Your correspondent got on extremely well with doge as she was not born yesterday and kept a wee bag of cut up hot dogs on her person to quietly keep the bugger distracted whilst our side’s evidence was being led.

Doge culminated giving his educated opinion by calmly taking a shit in front of the witness stand whilst opposing counsel gave closing arguments for two fucking days. Judge agreed with doge’s assessment.
 
Filing down the knives won't even prevent them from being used to stab people. It just means the stab wounds are going to be more painful and will cause more damage to the victims.

But at least they got rid of those nasty points!

Yeah, you can stab someone with a ballpoint pen too. I think we should ban those as well. And knitting needles. And skewers. And hair grips. And screwdrivers. And chopsticks. And all other sharp, pointy sticks.

Can we just ban dickheads instead? Heaven forfend we attempt to deal with the reasons why kids think it's big and hard to shank other kids.

If they make some kind of law that all knives made in or imported to the UK have to have rounded out points then it's going to cost companies a lot of money. It will make unmodified knives a rare and sought out commodity. Imagine kids swapping their moms old kitchen knives in back alleys. What would they do? Go into people's homes and do knife inspections? Have they ever heard of shanks? If something can be sharpened to a point it can become a weapon.

In the book of Genesis they only had rocks. And Cain still managed to kill Abel. Because it's human nature that's the problem. You can keep banning stuff all you want. But unless you start changing the culture that prompts people to want to be violent nothing will ever get better.

Also, stop letting in migrants.
 
I got a paper cut the other day and it fucking hurt. If the Brits don't act fast, they too could end up with some nasty cuts on their hands.
 
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