Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died at 87. - 🦀

[Feline Supremacist]

doomposting

I'm going to point out the hysterics in this post. One by one.

The fact that trump is in charge atm is literally the only thing keeping this country together, despite how many people would argue otherwise.

No. Should the entire Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of government get taken out all at once this country would continue to exist and function, such is the bureaucracy. Granted there would be turmoil but in no way would the USA cease to exist.

Trump being in office is what keeps 2/3ds of the States and half the population invested in the US Federal Government.

Every single state is invested in and dependent on the Federal government. Every state.

If Trump manages to thread the needle of history, he will cement his legacy as the most consequential US President since Roosevelt. But there are very few options left open. I don't know what will go down in November, but I am honestly scared. Too many chickens are coming home to roost at the same time. Despite what the idiots in academia have claimed, history has not ended. History is happening right now. And its accelerating.

History happens every day. Don't be afraid.

All the requirements for the start of a civil war have been met. There is massive popular dissasitfaction in the central government. The head of State is viewed as illegitimate by a significant portion of the population. The economic powers that be have taken hard sides for or against the various factions and view the victory of one or the other as necessary for their bottom line, while the institutional political elites view their opponents as not misguided but evil. I am sorry, this is not the time to be calm. Its time to start ringing the alarm bells.

No. Civil war is not imminent. There has always been dissatisfaction with the Federal government, going as far back as the Whiskey Rebellion. I absolutely disagree a significant portion of the population views Trump as illegitimate. A bunch of talking heads on MSM, Twitter checkmarks and hyperbolic editorials and opinion pieces do not equal a significant portion of the citizenry of the USA. Most people don't even vote.

The Democratic party has badly managed itself. Hillary did a tremendous amount of damage and Pelosi is unable to keep The Squad under control. The DNC is too old and stuck decades in the past to lead a political party. What you are seeing are the last gasps of politicians in their seventies and eighties trying to cling to power which is slipping out of their hands like sand. They are lashing out in their death throes. Rate me optimistic but I doubt people are going to be energized to go to the polls and vote for the party that has destroyed cities like NYC and LA because a sick old lady they didn't even know about died from cancer.

All politics is local. People know who is responsible for allowing their cities burn and businesses to go under. And Trump is good at reminding them it isn't him.

 

[Cokemusheen]

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The horrors those eyes have seen...

 

[The Lizard Queen]

The fact that trump is in charge atm is literally the only thing keeping this country together, despite how many people would argue otherwise. Trump being in office is what keeps 2/3ds of the States and half the population invested in the US Federal Government. If Trump manages to thread the needle of history, he will cement his legacy as the most consequential US President since Roosevelt. But there are very few options left open. I don't know what will go down in November, but I am honestly scared. Too many chickens are coming home to roost at the same time. Despite what the idiots in academia have claimed, history has not ended. History is happening right now. And its accelerating.

All the requirements for the start of a civil war have been met. There is massive popular dissasitfaction in the central government. The head of State is viewed as illegitimate by a significant portion of the population. The economic powers that be have taken hard sides for or against the various factions and view the victory of one or the other as necessary for their bottom line, while the institutional political elites view their opponents as not misguided but evil. I am sorry, this is not the time to be calm. Its time to start ringing the alarm bells.

Yeah... no. The United States is not some banana republic where all power is held by one person.

Despite the doom and gloom of the media, the US is actually stronger as an economic powerhouse than it was a few years ago. The government maintains control of its territory, and the military is united under strong leadership. There's no danger of any uprising causing destabilization of the central government.

The far left is the only side mad enough to rise up, but they're also very ineffectual. They're so consumed by infighting due to identity politics and fake outrage that they're only barely cohesive. The only thing uniting the Left at the moment is their hatred of Trump. Without him, they would shatter into factions within a day.

The current political climate is smoke and mirrors. After November, the person at the top may be an arrogant TV star, or a brain-dead Alzheimers patient, but the system itself does not require a stable executive branch to function. The president is only 1/3rd of a system, and a relatively minor part of that system anyway. The courts continue to serve to uphold the law, the state governments manage their resources, and the bureaucracy continues to move on at a steady pace. Roads get paved, families plan for the future, banks invest, the dollar is strong. We don't need the president to maintain those parts of our society.
Besides, the true leaders of our country are the businesses on Wall Street, and they're doing pretty well.

The worst we could possibly see are more riots, but the only thing that will do in the long term is cause a shift in local government. Some mayors will lose re-election, and some governors will be ousted, but once the riots stop it will be rebuilt and back to normal in a few years, not because of politics, but because economics demands it. Even in the worst case scenario where some far-left Green New Deal communism gets passed, it will be crushed under the heel of Wall Street, and come to nothing, much like Obamacare.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Look Kiwis, if y'all wanna be Fascist antimsemitists, go back to 1935 or whatever, join your local KKK/Neo-Nazi groups. Last I checked it's 2020.

Sound fun but no. This time is hilarious and they have that beer I like. So's I'm just going to sit here and enjoy myself while people I detest throw adult temper tantrums.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

The weird thing is how we all treat the 9 justices as the rule even though it's not fixed in the Constitution. Same with the House having just 435 members, while Britain, which has just 1/5 of our population, has more than 600 MPs in their House of Commons. These are all things that Congress decided on and just never bothered changing, like the number of members of Congress used to rise every decade with the population until they arbitrarily capped it at 435 in the House. A lot of things that we take for granted in our system of government aren't actually in the Constitution, and I think if the public was more aware of that we'd see more of a push to change things.

The UK has one MP for (roughly) every 92,000 people, or 68,000 electors. Oddly enough, the UK Parliament has hovered around the 600-650 mark since the 1820s and usually has some slight changes up or down when dictated. The biggest change was the elimination of University Seats and "double" seats, where two MPs would be elected for a single seat back in 1950.

Current proposals are to move to 100,000 people in every seat.

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Yes but I want John McCain's ghost to cry, so this argument is very silly.

Strangely, polls are reporting his seat is on a knife edge. So it's exactly the kind of thing Lindsey needs to shove and energise his own base that little bit more.

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Alright, not only is it disgustingly elitist to suggest that because these Senators don't represent enormous swathes of unwashed hippies and trust fund college kids on the West coast, their vote shouldn't count for anything, but you're completely ignoring the fact that Gorsuch made it through because you nuked the rule that would have prevented it, Kavanaugh made it through because of that same missing rule, and Ruth's replacement is going to be a suppository because she refused to retire and you refused to let her anyways.

You're in a Hell of your own making, your opinion is fucking retarded, and no one gives a shit about the popular vote. Enjoy your new Justice.

Oh look, another one where they start playing the numbers game. They tried this bullshit in the UK too to try and delegitimize the Brexit Referendum. Mostly because "only" 16% of the population actually voted for Brexit and thus its totally not a majority opinion! No you're the minority here!

They tended to shut up when you point out by that logic absolutely no government ever would be valid because "the majority of people didn't vote for it". It's why we do shit on a turnout basis. It's why the US does things representationally because otherwise the whole union would be dictated by ruinous Californian policies that'd probably see Idaho and Wyoming perpetually on fire and New York wondering why their grocery stores wouldn't get restocked.

 

[HumanHive]

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Yes but I want John McCain's ghost to cry, so this argument is very silly.

I would hope that when people die, they have better things to do that ree over politics for all eternity.
Just a hope.

 

[Overly Serious]

Alright, not only is it disgustingly elitist to suggest that because these Senators don't represent enormous swathes of unwashed hippies and trust fund college kids on the West coast, their vote shouldn't count for anything, but you're completely ignoring the fact that Gorsuch made it through because you nuked the rule that would have prevented it, Kavanaugh made it through because of that same missing rule, and Ruth's replacement is going to be a suppository because she refused to retire and you refused to let her anyways.

A what now?

 

[HumanHive]

A what now?

Ass medication.

 

[Tour of Italy]

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Alright, not only is it disgustingly elitist to suggest that because these Senators don't represent enormous swathes of unwashed hippies and trust fund college kids on the West coast, their vote shouldn't count for anything, but you're completely ignoring the fact that Gorsuch made it through because you nuked the rule that would have prevented it, Kavanaugh made it through because of that same missing rule, and Ruth's replacement is going to be a suppository because she refused to retire and you refused to let her anyways.

You're in a Hell of your own making, your opinion is fucking retarded, and no one gives a shit about the popular vote. Enjoy your new Justice.

Them: “We must protect the rights of the marginalized and disenfranchised minority!!!”

Me: *Shows them a picture of rednecks and working class folks from middle America*

Them: “Eww. Not those.”

 

[Overly Serious]

Ass medication.

Well yes, obviously. I wasn't questioning what the word meant, but its sudden appearance in that sentence.

 

[HumanHive]

Them: “We must protect the rights of the marginalized and disenfranchised minority!!!”

Me: *Shows them a picture of rednecks and working class folks from middle America*

Them: “Eww. Not those.”

The Left’s solution to rural poverty is “lol just move to a city”.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Well yes, obviously. I wasn't questioning what the word meant, but its sudden appearance in that sentence.

TRUMPS GONNA SHOVE THE NOMINATION UP THEIR ASS WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT.

That’s the implication here.

 

[HumanHive]

TRUMPS GONNA SHOVE THE NOMINATION UP THEIR ASS WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT.

That’s the implication here.

Yeah, but how long does it take for a colon to fully absorb a judicial nominee? Has to be at least three weeks, two if female due to the reduced mass.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I really want Trump to nominate Clarence Thomas but with tits, that would be the funniest choice.

Amy Coney Barrett but when she turns up for the confirmation hearing she's wearing really blatant spray tan.

I'd be okay with Stephen Miller.

Exactly. There's nothing wrong with Jews you just need to make sure the Jew you pick is a mensch, not a schmuck or a shlemiel.

 

[Cuckoman]

They wouldn't be able to feed themselves. I'd wager, generally speaking, that farmers and other food producers wouldn't want any part in overthrowing the government.

Wall the fuckers in and then air-drop just enough supplies each day to feed 2/3 of the fucker population.
Fund it by selling the rights to broadcast it to cable tv.

 

[Giga Sperg]

enjoy a shamelessly stolen meme.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Them: “We must protect the rights of the marginalized and disenfranchised minority!!!”

Me: *Shows them a picture of rednecks and working class folks from middle America*

Them: “Eww. Not those.”

Obligatory Travis Tritt

"Them politicians treat me like a mushroom.
'Cause they feed me bull
And keep me in the blind"

This garbage has been common sense to hammer-swinging wrench-spinning tractor-driving folks in flyover country who keep the corpulent excess of the upper-class in supply since forever. City people are finally waking up (or maybe just finding it advantageous right now, hard to tell). That's the only time us folks out in nowheresville ever get a win. When we unite with the dipshits who think pulling a lever on a metal press or running a checkstand or answering a phone is hard work deserving a heap of money. Sadly. But politics, as they say, make strange bedfellows. So whatever. I will align with the prissy entitled goldbricks for now. But if they bring their union that enabled that horseshit it is a dealbreaker.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

I think he should pick Barbara Lagoa and watch as the usual suspects reeeee themselves into an aneurysm over how she's not really a Hispanic wahmen but actually an Uncle Tom - also, as a Miami Cuban expect shrieking about how her family betrayed Fidel Castro and the revolución. She was also confirmed as an appeal court Judge in 2019 by a bipartisan vote, I'm told, so that would cause the Democrats to tie themselves in knots trying to undermine their own recent support for her.

 

[Slimy Time]

He's absolutely made the correct choice in trying to push forward a nominee. He has, as I guessed, picked a woman to a) fuck with the Democrats, b) appeal to a wide audience/ride on the ginsberg female point and c) try to duck the kavagnaugh situation, and if not then expose the MeToo movement for what we all know it is.

Biden in comparison is forced to take the opposing "moral" stance and has explicitly told the press that he won't be showing the list unless he wins. Makes him look weak and unprepared, as well as hopeless about his chances in November.

 

[Gehenna]

He's absolutely made the correct choice in trying to push forward a nominee. He has, as I guessed, picked a woman to a) fuck with the Democrats, b) appeal to a wide audience/ride on the ginsberg female point and c) try to duck the kavagnaugh situation, and if not then expose the MeToo movement for what we all know it is.

Biden in comparison is forced to take the opposing "moral" stance and has explicitly told the press that he won't be showing the list unless he wins. Makes him look weak and unprepared, as well as hopeless about his chances in November.

It significantly damages his boon too... people might rally behind a shortlist, but they can't rally behind the general idea of "Get a justice in", not with a lot of enthusiasm which is exactly what he needs.