Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

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Guess Kat's weight.

  • >200 lbs.

    Votes: 22 3.5%

  • 200 lbs.-250 lbs.

    Votes: 125 20.0%

  • 250 lbs.- 300 lbs.

    Votes: 110 17.6%

  • Damn that's a huge bitch.

    Votes: 369 58.9%
  • Total voters
    626
Mental health is a joke in the US and would probably only make Jenna worse IMO, but if Jenna wanted to get on SSI, I'm sure she could. It would take time to get through, but she could. She also could emulate her sister and find some dude who'd be willing to pay for all her shit, even now I'm sure there's many suitors.

There's options, Jenna doesn't want to take them. She's in a better situation than many people.

You can't help people who don't want to be helped.
 
Unfortunately Jenna is in the SHIITIEST states to help with homelessness.
I can write more later, and also about Seattle as well.
From her eyes though.
This woman is in SEVERE pain.
Fuck you DSP and Khet.
Fuck you.
 
AnOminous said:
There are definitely resources even if they're not perfect. Jenna would probably qualify if she sought out such help. The problem is if you're nuts, that keeps you from doing sane things like seeking help. What's not available is resources to make you seek help, even if temporarily impairing your liberty would permanently improve your safety and happiness.

She should really be on disability and then she'd qualify at least for Medicaid, which would at least stabilize her mentally somewhat.

She really shouldn't be out there doing this. She's going to get killed.

Also on a somewhat vaguely related note, fuck Phil, that fat tub of gacha gouging gambooling shit.
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She doesn't even have to be disabled. California is a Medicaid expansion state. Literally all she has to do is apply, live in the state, and make less than income limit, which is $17,775 per year for 2022. But no one even tangentially involved with DSP has any sense or functionality.
 
Derich 2nd of coomland said:
Jesus. This is just sad.

Asking as a non American. Would her being arrested and put in jail for an extended period (6 months+) be something that could end up saving her?

Asking 'cause in my neck of the woods this has saved a lot of people in somewhat similar situations (mental health issues). Jenna is clearly not in a place where she can help herself or even ask for real help, and I have a sinking feeling I know how this story is going to end and it's not going to end well.
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twattycake said:
God no. Prisons are not set up to handle the mentally ill or junkies, even when they work as intended all they really do is keep violent people off the streets. I am not an idiot and believe criminals should be locked up, but psych treatment for crazy people or addiction treatment for junkies is almost non existent in there. Even if she got very lucky Jenna would probably just get 1 or 2 sessions a month with a hopelessly overworked therapist.

What Jenna needs would be an extended inpatient stay in a psych ward and that ain't happening because those cost a small fortune and hospitals do not have a duty to treat unless the patient is suicidal.
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AnOminous said:
Maybe someone more or less together could get a wake-up call from a jail sentence and decide they don't ever want to do that again, but someone crazy is just going to go even crazier if they don't do something crazy enough to get them beaten or killed.
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I do some volunteering with a charity that works to get mental health help (though in reality the most charities are able to do is feed, clothe, and be friendly with) homeless people. Jails absolutely do not help. There was an incredibly nice guy who lived on the streets near me, everyone in the neighbourhood knew him and he was just a guy who was harmless though not all together there. He got arrested for drugs and went to jail for 6 months, and he came back completely changed. Incredibly violent, people who would converse with him before were reacted to with hostility immediately, etc. His mental illnesses were just exacerbated in prison not to mention whatever violence he may have been exposed to.
 
Derich 2nd of coomland said:
This is what brought on my jail question in my first post.

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About a decade ago I was living in a homeless shelter. Just to clarify the ones we have are nothing like what you guys in the states have.
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And there were several cases of people with massive mental health issues that could not be forced to seek treatment until they got in the hands of our version of DoC that have that power and by doing that if not outright saved their lives, at least gave them a more dignified life.

I was rather naively hoping that the US DoC could do something like that.
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Yeah in the US and especially California, the authorities do nothing about all the crazy homeless people that are clearly too far gone to be productive members of society. The only way to get into an institution is to ask for it. They never force anyone like they should. But then again, this website probably wouldn't exist if that was the case.
 
Hrothgar said:
She doesn't even have to be disabled. California is a Medicaid expansion state. Literally all she has to do is apply, live in the state, and make less than income limit, which is $17,775 per year for 2022. But no one even tangentially involved with DSP has any sense or functionality.
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What good would a paycheck do if nowadays one just has to ask?
In my world Jenna would be given a vocational skill workshop, mental health counseling and possibly medication. You guys have to remember living homeless at some point turns into existing.
Soft white underbelly is GREAT at capturing this. This is the pain I am talking about. What makes California shit is that they de-criminalized being homeless. There is ZERO incentive to get better.
The second part of this is YES closing the asylums.
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Brotherman Bill said:
Yeah in the US and especially California, the authorities do nothing about all the crazy homeless people that are clearly too far gone to be productive members of society. The only way to get into an institution is to ask for it. They never force anyone like they should. But then again, this website probably wouldn't exist if that was the case.
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They see this as "compassion".
No.
That is hell.
I wonder how much money the governor skims of the greater and greater "homeless" budget.
 
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Derich 2nd of coomland said:
Asking as a non American. Would her being arrested and put in jail for an extended period (6 months+) be something that could end up saving her?
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Burgerland kiwi here…American correctional facilities are not really good for rehabilitation, for us it’s more about Justice/vengeance. So if she got her ass into the clink she would probably just suffer through withdrawal for six months and go right back to doing drugs afterwards.
 
Derich 2nd of coomland said:
Asking as a non American. Would her being arrested and put in jail for an extended period (6 months+) be something that could end up saving her?
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Absolutely not. I know this has already been touched upon by other people but I want to reiterate. The american prison system exists for three things:

First is cheap prison labor. You'd be surprised at how many goods and services are done by prisoners for literal pennies on the dollar, and the prisoners get an escape from the daily brutal toil of the prison system while ostensibly learning a skill. A no-brainer win-win

Second is profit. More and more privately owned prisons are popping up and as the country continues to spiral down we're going to be seeing alot more privatized prisons pop up with the bare minimum in food quality, care, etc while the owners get rich. Look up how much prisoners are worth sometime and prepare to be saddened.

And finally three, which is to make a better criminal. American prisons have a high recidivist rate for a reason. Why would you want to let go of cheap, expendable labor along with the cash of taking care of the prisoner? I know there are programs and people who genuinely want to try and break the cycle but unfortunately corruption is king and the good are far far outnumbered and outclassed by the corrupt. And with no skills under their belt or any prospects because of their criminal record what else will they do but turn to their fellow inmates and learn how to try and do crime better?
 
For all the talk about the system both wasting money and stealing money, it's shit both ways. Jenna might be able to get the bare minimum help and survive using gov. services, but the vast majority of people who reach that point don't have that ability, common sense, or desire to dig their way out of the hole, and you need all three. She has no support system---what, Kat and Phil? No one gives a fuck about her, she doesn't give a fuck about herself, and the system sure as fuck doesn't care about her. That's America in 2022.
 
Flavius Anthemius said:
Any chance you can give her some food coupons as well? I think Jenna could do with some sustenance and not ya know, some crack and joints.
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Food coupons? She’s not a Midwestern housewife trying to save money on food for her four kids. The pizza’s an award for being such a huge fuck up.
 
I doubt Khat even knows what's going on with Jenna, much less feels any sympathy for the younger half-sister with whom she has not had any contact since their childhood separation.
 
ReentryPhantom said:
Hey wait a second, aren't you the dude that smashed?
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Yes, it’s the only reason I’m here. PP Burnell has become quite boring.

millais said:
I doubt Khat even knows what's going on with Jenna, much less feels any sympathy for the younger half-sister with whom she has not had any contact since their childhood separation.
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She doesn’t, Jenna and Khat are strangers that last met in 2011. Jenna hates her (although the reasons might be misguided).
 
millais said:
I doubt Khat even knows what's going on with Jenna, much less feels any sympathy for the younger half-sister with whom she has not had any contact since their childhood separation.
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I don't think that she'll know about it ever since the last time they encountered each other. I might think that she's really unaware about Jenna.
 
This has probably been said before (couldn't find it in the last few pages) but this whole situation begs the question as to why is DSP able to ship thots he wants pussy from across the country, no issue, but a person in a genuinely tough place, that is now family to him, can't live in their overly big house...

Must be his disdain of "drugees", but boy, that house is way too big for you, and your wife's sister is literally selling her body, getting assaulted, and even considering ending her life, and you seem to not give a fuck.

DSP is not that broke, and could help Jenna reintegrate in society, and have her sister as her support.

If only he cared about literally anyone other than himself.
 
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