Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

[Cyber Bowling]

Hate to say something even remotely defensive of Phil, but him getting involved would probably do more harm than good. Helping a junkie is difficult and requires a lot of strength, both to put up with their BS and actually try to help. Phil is a giant pussy who was terrified of going shopping during the pandemic because he was convinced he'd get into a fight at the store. And still refuses to go to Walmart for the same reason. Phil is also extremely gullible, and while I don't think Jenna is exactly a criminal mastermind or anything, it wouldn't be hard for her to lie to Phil about getting help/not doing drugs. He'd just end up becoming another enabler for her, but he wouldn't actually push for her to get real help, nor do I think he even knows what to possibly do to try and help her. And not just because he's Phil and awful at everything, but because legitimately helping someone who is this far gone is hard.

I'm also in the camp neither Phil nor Khet know much about Jenna. I don't doubt that Phil reads his own thread/has his paypigs reporting stuff about what we post, but I don't know if he cares enough to read Khet's thread. We had known about/made jokes about the demon possession and stuff, to the point that was a large part of the discussion in the early Khet days, and he seemed to have no idea about it when it came up in stream. If he was even glancing at the thread, you'd think he'd know about it. We've seen him pick up on more subtle detractor memes before that he'd only know from the main thread. I imagine Khet doesn't read here either, partly because I have a hard time imagining Khet doing anything but staring blankly at stuff and playing Skyrim, but also because it's hard to imagine her reading everything about Phil and just being cool with it. Even if she doesn't care about him, which seems quite reasonable, you'd think she'd at least be upset that he's recklessly spending and wasting her meal ticket.

 

[TheGoutburglar]

I don't think Phil would fail to recognize a fellow grifter like Jenna, since her type of product isn't something he's interested in, so she can't get one over on him and induce an idiotic toxic hypocritical sour grapes rant like so many other things can. He falls for scams and then bitches about it, but those were things he wanted, and we know "pussy" isn't on that list.

As for him reading this thread, it's pretty evident that he doesn't, because he gets way too triggered by all the rather innocent prodding in chat for me to think that he could hold it in after going through a few pages of our digging into his fake-ass marriage. The retards aren't even trying to make him look bad and he still tears them a new one, there's no way he could handle this thread and all the ways in which we've ripped HIM a new one in it.

That said, were it not for his over-the-top reaction to some things the retards say/ask about, I would find it hard to believe that Phil doesn't keep up with our speculation here simply because you would expect him to want to. He has plenty to lose by not staying ahead of what we've noticed/theorized, as it's obvious just how important his mature adult with a wife LARPing is to him. It's literally the only reason he doesn't live alone like he would otherwise rather do. He cares about how well he's selling it, and you would expect him to read this thread in accordance, but like I said, his demeanor makes it obvious that that hasn't happened despite it making sense. He would be ranting way more about us mentally-ill nudniks discussing such personal details endlessly. Especially the more we hit the nail right on the head, which I'm pretty sure we do with at least one thing, that being how little interaction there is between he and Katherine.

That, BTW, is why I'm not convinced that Phil's attitude during a divorce saga is going to be/would be the same as 2017. There's a very clear difference in how he feels about Katherine versus how he felt about Leanna when she was still in his life, and he's not that much calmer with her around than he was between Leanna leaving and her entering. I don't think his toxicity was entirely from losing his maid, I think a lot of it was - on top of him letting built-up steam loose - from losing THAT maid. I think Katherine walking out on him would elicit a very different response, and I think he would be far angrier about us getting what we want than in how that would impact his day-to-day life off-camera. He got a LOT more out of Leanna than he ever has Katherine, both on camera and off, after all, and therefore lost a lot more in both ways when she ditched his ass.

 

[AnOminous]

He'd just end up becoming another enabler for her, but he wouldn't actually push for her to get real help, nor do I think he even knows what to possibly do to try and help her. And not just because he's Phil and awful at everything, but because legitimately helping someone who is this far gone is hard.

He's also a legit addict to stupid shit himself. Phil is a dick but even if he wanted to help her, and really why should he, not only wouldn't he do her any good but he'd do himself harm. That's double stupid. Now Phil didn't come to his apathy out of actual logic, just his usual sociopathic lack of regard for anyone not useful to him. But it's accidentally smart to steer clear of this train wreck.

 

[ReentryPhantom]

Taking Jenna in would essentially be taking care of a rebellious teenager. DSP has difficulty taking care of his fucking cat. He can't just spray Jenna with a water bottle when she does something wrong.

 

[We Are The Witches]

She seems to have some closer family (besides her father and Kat) and maybe a good friend that could help her out. At least in some ways, anything that could maybe get her out of this situation, although this is extremely optimistic and the images are old.

Kat doesn't care, but also @shalashaska mentioned that Jenna believes DSP is a paedophile so you can imagine the chaos if she gets invited to BURNELL PRODUCTIONS. The SWATting will be commenced as an inside job.

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[fuckshitsnake]

He can't just spray Jenna with a water bottle when she does something wrong.

It painted an entertaining image in my head when I imagined he'd try, anyway.

"Jenna, stop chewing on those!" followed by the webcam fogging up from the mist spray and the sound of a crackwhore screeching.

 

[shalashaska]

She seems to have some closer family (besides her father and Kat) and maybe a good friend that could help her out. At least in some ways, anything that could maybe get her out of this situation, although this is extremely optimistic and the images are old.

Kat doesn't care, but also @shalashaska mentioned that Jenna believes DSP is a paedophile so you can imagine the chaos if she gets invited to BURNELL PRODUCTIONS. The SWATting will be commenced as an inside job.

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She hates both DSP and Khat, even called Khat a hoe when I met her for marrying DSP. As @TurdFondler mentioned, drug addicts have a way of burning bridges. Jenna's only living in a broken van because anyone who comes into contact with her gets fed up with her shit eventually. The same thing happened in Michigan and San Diego, and the same thing will happen in LA. She has no friends an d probably never will.

 

[Prince Lotor]

She hates both DSP and Khat, even called Khat a hoe when I met her for marrying DSP. As @TurdFondler mentioned, drug addicts have a way of burning bridges. Jenna's only living in a broken van because anyone who comes into contact with her gets fed up with her shit eventually. The same thing happened in Michigan and San Diego, and the same thing will happen in LA. She has no friends an d probably never will.

Oh, is Jenna not in San Diego anymore?
I didn't realize the van squat was in LA somewhere.

Is Jenna doing drugs besides smoking lots of weed? Everyone keeps calling her a junkie/drug addict.
I thought her behavior was more driven by her mental illness (paranoid delusions, depression, anxiety, random aggression, disordered thinking, etc).
There was that boyfriend of hers named "Detroit" that she said was a homeless Fentanly addict who left her because she kept trying to get him to stop taking Fentanly.

 

[Two Yum Yums]

Oh, is Jenna not in San Diego anymore?
I didn't realize the van squat was in LA somewhere.

Is Jenna doing drugs besides smoking lots of weed? Everyone keeps calling her a junkie/drug addict.
I thought her behavior was more driven by her mental illness (paranoid delusions, depression, anxiety, random aggression, disordered thinking, etc).
There was that boyfriend of hers named "Detroit" that she said was a homeless Fentanly addict who left her because she kept trying to get him to stop taking Fentanly.

She has an opioid issue, yes. When things go bad for her she often posts on Instagram asking for people to hook her up with Fentanyl/Oxycodone.

She also matches the criteria for paranoid schizophrenia, which isn't surprising given her childhood and current lifestyle.

 

[King Daddy Telomerase]

I'm also in the camp neither Phil nor Khet know much about Jenna.

We know they don't. Katherine and Jenna barely saw each other when they were kids, and haven't had contact at all for many years. This board likely knows more about Jenna then the Burnell family does. Jenna just made a halfassed attempt to profit online talking about Phil and her sister.

 

[AnOminous]

We know they don't. Katherine and Jenna barely saw each other when they were kids, and haven't had contact at all for many years. This board likely knows more about Jenna then the Burnell family does. Jenna just made a halfassed attempt to profit online talking about Phil and her sister.

I'd bet from how she ended up and that she obsessively calls Dave a pedophile that she was molested as a child. I don't think he's a pedo even though he might be a groomer of some sort.

 

[Dennis Rodman]

Seeing the pictures of her with her dad are legitimately sad. Can’t help but wonder how differently her life could have unfolded if he was still around.

 

[WolverineGuy22]

Don’t worry, I just bought our girl a couple of slices of pizza.

DSP will be more upset that this psycho is treating his sister in-law to robust and flavorful east coast style pizza with spices and seasonings than he was that he paid her for sex.

 

[TurdFondler]

Amphetamine users get psychosis regularly. Looks outwardly a lot like paranoid schizophrenia but entirely from binging on uppers and not sleeping or eating for days. The drugs also aggravate whatever other disorders she has, but I don't think she's genuinely schizophrenic.

 

[Iron Father]

I don't particularly give a shit that neither Phil nor Kat are helping/will ever help Jenna. Those two useless gluttonous fuckwits wouldn't even know where to start anyway, but I do take some pleasure in the fact that Mr. Philip "Catholic morality and private charity" Burnell has a literal homeless crackwhore for a sister-in-law and will never lift a finger to do anything for her.

 

[bobatnight]

Dunno why people are carrying on as if Phil has some obligation to help the dumpster fire that is Jenna. If my wife had some junkie sister I wouldn't be sending her money or going out of my way for her either.

 

[Beverly Sutphin]

Jenna is a case where she didn't have a chance! Her demons are clearly winning and she will either end up dead and end up as a Jane Doe, OD in some overpass, beaten to death by some low-life piece of shit over drugs, money, or both, or commit suicide. She (Jenna) doesn't want help! She wants drugs and she'll get it by ANY means necessary. She doesn't want help! Phil and Kat aren't obligated to help someone that doesn't want help and they shouldn't. Jenna needs LONG term inpatient psych treatment YESTERDAY!

However, most long term psych hospitals are closed and they are run by for-profit companies like UHS, which UHS focuses on short-term mental health care: bring them in, stabilize them, and get them into a half-way home with meds, a warm meal, and a bed until they can find permanent housing and/or continuing help. That's ONLY if you have GOOD insurance through family or work. State insurance like Medi-Cal will cover the costs, but she would need to fight to keep her case open and going. Again, that's a UPHILL battle.

The only state run facilities focus on the criminally insane; basically, people that commit crimes, but are unfit to stand trial due to reason of insanity. In California, one of those state run facilities are called Napa Hospital. County jails now have to run as makeshift mental health facilitates, the biggest in the country is L.A. County Jail, they focus on the mentally ill: a mentally ill person gets arrested, get them stabilized for trial, if there are charges pressed. However, most of the crimes committed by the mentally ill are petty thief under $5,000, and most charges are dropped once they're stabilized. Once they're stabilized, they're back on the streets with their belongings, 72 hours worth of meds, and nowhere to go. Rinse, wash, and repeat.

However, long term psych care doesn't come cheap and either she's on Medi-Cal - if she's in California, Medi-Cal is a state-run medical insurance program for low-income/homeless people to get treatment that is paid for by the taxpayers, or the hospital eats the cost of the stay. Also, finding a long term facility would fall on the shoulders of her social worker to do the work. There are some long term care facilities that will take her, but that's something a social worker would know. As far as her insurance, I don't know. Again, it's a working hypothesis. Take with that what you want.

Hate to sound like a callous asshole, but Jenna is a lost cause. Since I know Phil reads the farms, I'm willing to bet money he knows about Jenna and STAYS the hell away from her. Unless you're willing to fork out THOUSANDS of dollars to get Jenna long term help, Phil knows that Jenna is a nuclear bomb. Phil's an idiot, sure, but even he knows NOT to fuck with Jenna.

How do I know this? I've worked in mental health and have seen the Jenna's of the world more times than I can count. Jenna is a sad case and I hate to see a life thrown away due to mental illness. Under the right circumstances, she could've made something of herself, but her demons and trauma have gotten the best of her.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Not that it matters, but are Kat and Jenna actually biologically related at all, or did they just kind of get shuffled together on their parents' marriage merry-go-round?

 

[Iron Father]

IIRC they share a parent.

One thing I don't see discussed here often is how Phil's verbal communication skills have degraded beyond repair...probably barely speaks to the soulmaid...

I actually disagree. I bet Phil waffles endlessly at the soulmaid, ranting and raving, sighing and snorting, and all he gets in response is a potato-breathed grunt.

Edit: Saw this on Panda's housemate's IG account. For some reason it makes me laugh, so goofy. All the Panda simps seem to always forget how much of a derpy sperg she is.

 

[UncleTusky]

Another mini-update on Kat, somehow she still does not have a work schedule according to Twitter trolls. Add this + the door constantly being closed to the list of evidence she either got fired or moved out.