Manosphere Kentray "Kent" E Brown - Elliot Rodger The Second.

[HickoryDickory]

FTFY.

Kent isn't fucked up because he's black.

He's fucked up because he's a whiny bitch.

Well, he could date Tracy Lynn.

 

[Bassomatic]

This may be a bit long winded but it's boring as sin today in the office so here goes.

I agree with both of you, and please forgive if you feel I'm putting words in you guys mouths and feel free to correct me I'm just reading this how I took it. @ForumLurker seems to be pointing out Kent's got the cushy upper middle class american life. He's not hiding like Anne Franke or washing dishes 14 hours a day to keep the lights on. He's also in control of more than he allows himself to be. He can man up for his jealous issues he can be open and work with his shrinks. Where as @فيل points out the very real problems Kent has. He suffers from depression and autism. Stuff sucks. Kents real issues and lack of support have allowed him to grow unhealthy habits and feelings.

It's kinda a chicken and the egg for Kent what's the bigger problem. But in his case, with out being mean he's not gonna be marrying a model 2 kids 150k career house with a white picket fence. Part of that is his disabilities. Not one person here has ever ripped on him for that. Shit sucks, it's not funny or ok. Kent doesn't fight for himself. He's let his depression take over and call the shots. There comes a time where you have to pick the sword up for yourself, so to say. It gets harder the deeper you are in, but it's never impossible. He's so deep in it'll be a King Arthur move for him to break his cycle. Also yes even if he does break it guess what will be lurking behind him?

One of my favorite books is Marcus Aurelius's Mediations. Kent would do great to read it. Maybe I'm old fashioned and I get Kent uses YT to vent but I think writing things down has some power more than spoken word. At his time Marcus was literally the most powerful richest and strongest man on earth. He gets super down in the dumps. I think Kent refuses to admit or see other people struggle like he does. He wants to be a snow flake. Now perhaps part of him wanting to act like he's the only person to struggle with depression or being single is because his depression has got him so down he feels so empty and boring he needs to have a victim complex to any sense of self.

I think Kent's got a lot of very real problems and that's sad, no one here rips on them. A lot more of Kent's problems are he doesn't try. I honestly don't see why Kent couldn't have a family and his own place if he tried. He's got so much more support than so many and chooses to sit on his hands.

 

[RichardDripp]

Heh, I just heard this web site mentioned for the first time on an older video. Apparently, he does not like what is going on here. I do not understand it, because I have seen mostly support for Kent. I suppose tough love is not his thing as said on his Wiki (which was entertaining).

As a sidenote, I have family members with Asperger's by the way, and yes, it does appear Kent exhibits the isms of it.

 

[Bassomatic]

Kent has a very baffling idea on what trolling is. There's so much support and advice for him here. Sure we rib and laugh but that's the forums. When Kent threatened suicide, we came to help and I don't mean that to pat us on the back but his "friends" in the Kentosphere didn't do anything. Because we don't think Kent is perfect we are trolls. Ehh I'm confident, that doesn't hurt my feelings.

He's said constructive criticism just a compliment. So clearly we are like a hate group or something.

Edit: @RichardDripp since you are new and probably didn't see his "mentor" Crying Logs exploited Kent's suicide attempt for video views.

 

[RichardDripp]

Kent has a very baffling idea on what trolling is. There's so much support and advice for him here. Sure we rib and laugh but that's the forums. When Kent threatened suicide, we came to help and I don't mean that to pat us on the back but his "friends" in the Kentosphere didn't do anything. Because we don't think Kent is perfect we are trolls. Ehh I'm confident, that doesn't hurt my feelings.

He's said constructive criticism just a compliment. So clearly we are like a hate group or something.

As others stated, he's very narcissistic. Any form of help, tough love, or anything contrary to his worldview (that's clearly not working) is seen as a threat to him. His paranoia is off the charts. The list goes on and on.

And yes, he talks about suicide or doing something he regrets for the rest of his life, which is the biggest concern to me. As a person who is bipolar, been in and out of crisis centers/hospitals, plus dealt with incel issues as a younger guy, I truly empathize with his situation. I did not want the help either. I was forced to. I am not saying Kent's situation is the same as mine. I am simply saying help is out there. He cannot have things fall out of the sky and in his lap and everything is magically better as he truly believes it is.

Edit: I did not see that, but does not surprise me. It is not the first time people use somebody else's pain for gain, obviously. I'll make sure to take a look. Thanks.

 

[RiceBall]

Heh, I just heard this web site mentioned for the first time on an older video. Apparently, he does not like what is going on here. I do not understand it, because I have seen mostly support for Kent. I suppose tough love is not his thing as said on his Wiki (which was entertaining).

As a sidenote, I have family members with Asperger's by the way, and yes, it does appear Kent exhibits the isms of it.

He really, really doesn't like it here:

Kent doesn't realize if he didn't bring up "those forums" on one of his videos that I would have never found out about this place. It really hurts his ego to know that the people here aren't giving him a reach around like his buddies in his echo chamber.

You all bring up some very good points about the issues Kent face. I think his biggest downfall is his refusal to change. He really thinks he doesn't have to change at all to get in a relationship when time and time again he has failed to even get a number. I don't think Kent have ever learned how to take steps to achieve his goals.

I thought he would learn that lesson from playing football. You just don't step on the field and blow out other teams. You have to work hard in practice to earn and keep your spot, lift weights to get strong and become more explosive, learn the playbook and watch film, etc. It's a process. A long and hard process. You can't just rest on your laurels and say "I'm good enough now".
No, you have to keep working hard every practice, because the teams you are facing are doing exactly that. If he worked hard on improving his game instead of using football as a means to impress girls, then maybe he might have learned some life lessons and earned the respect of his peers.

I wonder how much different of a person he would be if he focused all of that "passion" for relationships towards himself to improve.

 

[HickoryDickory]

But is he really trying for a relationship tho? He's so lazy I question the amount of effort he even puts into the lovequest. CWC is even more devoted to that goal.

 

[RiceBall]

But is he really trying for a relationship tho? He's so lazy I question the amount of effort he even puts into the lovequest. CWC is even more devoted to that goal.

That's what I'm trying to wrap my head around. He said he wants a relationship really badly in his most recent video, but where's the effort? This is where his "yes men" come in. They always point their fingers at women for dating bad boys and not appreciating good men. Then they rub him off and whisper in his ear telling him he wears nice clothes, even though he wears decade old clothing and that he's a good guy, even though he is a racist, misogynist and homophobic. They don't realize that lying to him to make him feel good reinforces his mindset that he is good enough and doesn't need to change. It also doesn't help that he's close-minded and will lose his shit at any type of advice given to him.

In the 27 minute long video about "cawnfidence" that he posted a week ago, he said a women should like him for who is he is currently, no matter how many hats he wears, his clothing style or the type of work he does. He doesn't want to be judged for superficial reasons, which is funny as hell to me because he judges if a woman is good enough to date him by how pretty she is and if she has ever had another man's penis inside of her or not.

In his most recent video, he said he deserves a yes just because he's asked out so many women. That's what "trying" means to Kent. Asking out women, not improving himself or his approach.

It just amazes me how he think he's such an awesome and amazing person. He must have been told that a lot growing up from family and church members.

 

[Count groudon]

The little fucker is like a black leisure suit larry. Somebody should totally make a Ballcap Kent game.

 

[Bassomatic]

To me it reenforces both his disorder of narcism and proof he's been coddled. I can see after a losing football game the team gets smoked, Kent's taken aside and handed a big bowl of ice cream.

Since he lurks, I will type this out very simply. You do not EARN ANYTHING by being alive. His mindset is clear "I tried" so I deserve a treat. No, Pavlov would have a field day with your ass bucko. You claim you like to lift so ok, Kent I go to the gym too, I rack up 700 lbs on the bench press. I struggle and struggle I do it again, and again. It doesn't move. Your logic I can run around telling everyone I do a 700 bench. Nope. I used a very extreme example since it's gotta really stick out like a sore thumb for him to grasp it.

He claims to be a nice guy and never has shown us it. I'll gladly eat my words when we see "Kent helps a little old lady cross the street" We see Kent slanders people, Kent being bigoted. Where's this nice guy?

 

[ForumLurker]

I disagree. Kent has plenty of issues:

-Attention Deficit Disorder
-Symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome: which possibly explains his poor ability to gauge people's reactions and intentions
-Poor social skills
-Introversion
-Major Depression
-Narcissism
-Extreme and irrational jealousy
-Stuttering
-Odd word choice and speech patterns
-Low reading comprehension and vocabulary
-Lack of work experience

His speaking skills are alright if you could get past the "and stuff like that". Social skills can be cultivated very quickly. He doesn't want to let go of the depression tho so thats a big issue. Depression usually comes from lack of vitamin C, exercise, and human interaction. Mostly fixable. He should get a pet like a dog. They are loyal and will increase his happiness. People like kent should find ways to make money online. For 1 its hard getting a job as an unskilled black male, and 2 his social awkwardness might get in the way. But to be honest I don't think he's that socially awkward. The dude flew all the way to Seattle and had a nice chat with the waitress. Most people never leave their own city. Kent has a lot of potential he just doesn't fuckin listen to anybody. And his lack of trust will ruin him in the end. He won't build those relationships needed to function properly in society if he doesn't change. His main issue is he sees himself as the victim. That's not an alpha way to think about life. I don't even know why he makes the videos. He must not care about his reputation. That short term thinking. At this point his videos have already been downloaded so theres nothing he could really do.

Where's this nice guy?

I agree that Kent isn't technically a nice guy. If he was he would be in church trying to serve his god the best way he could and not be worried about "worldly" affairs. We also see him cursing out people on the net and threatening couples who show affection in public. His bitterness is taking over like Eliot Rodgers. He needs to sit down some where.

 

[Littleblackchyld]

It seems as though his family and school(s) have failed him.

How is it the school's fault? The school is just supposed to educate him but teaching him responsibility, teaching him how to go forward in life and whatnot is his parents' and family's responsibility.

 

[ForumLurker]

How is it the school's fault? The school is just supposed to educate him but teaching him responsibility, teaching him how to go forward in life and whatnot is his parents' and family's responsibility.

That's true. It was mainly his family who failed to bring him up correctly. Ultimately its Kent's fault tho. It's his life. He can mold it into what ever he wants, in this case he chooses to mold it into a life of misery. He's out of high school and can pretty much do what ever the hell he wants. It's sad he chooses to use his energy making complainer videos. Oh well. As far as the school, its just there to "teach". I do think he feels like he didn't receive justice from being bullied. No teachers or staff helped apparently. His parents should of put him in karate class especially since they knew he was gonna be short.

 

[Bassomatic]

I'll go out on a limb and I think what @Succubus was saying Kent never mentioned being on special ed or anything else. His district is big and has some money in it. They have to have some slow track stuff. Classes more set at easier math and some time on coping skills would have benefited him more than pre calc. Mandatory tutoring etc. Having Kent do some team building stuff would have suited him better than an SAT prep class.

 

[Littleblackchyld]

His speaking skills are alright if you could get past the "and stuff like that". Social skills can be cultivated very quickly.

Not for Kent. Gaining social skills requires awareness of yourself AND awareness of others. He is unable to look beyond himself to see that others exist and have their own agency and motivation. Case in point, in the All The Women That I Tried Talking To Said That They Had Boyfriends. Smh (Venting), he talks about how the fact that the women he liked all had boyfriends which hurt him. He defines others by their relationship to him not understanding that he is not the center of their universe.

He doesn't want to let go of the depression tho so thats a big issue. Depression usually comes from lack of vitamin C, exercise, and human interaction. Mostly fixable. He should get a pet like a dog. They are loyal and will increase his happiness.

He has a dog, she died recently unfortunately.

People like kent should find ways to make money online. For 1 its hard getting a job as an unskilled black male, and 2 his social awkwardness might get in the way.

Yeah, I suspect his social awkwardness is why he was unable to get his much wished for job at Lids on his first attempt. But I kinda doubt that he could make money online - in most online jobs that are not scams - since you're your own boss, you have to very conscientious and dedicated to make sure that the work gets done. I think Kent would have issues being able to follow through with things especially when he's not under direction by a supervisor.

But to be honest I don't think he's that socially awkward. The dude flew all the way to Seattle and had a nice chat with the waitress. Most people never leave their own city.

Uhh, where we watching the same video? The convo seem stilted plus the waitress has to be nice because customer service is part of her job. She has to be nice and engaging to keep customers in the bar and drinking; that's why waitresses of higher end hotels, bars and lounges are usually pretty and very social.

Kent has a lot of potential he just doesn't fuckin listen to anybody. And his lack of trust will ruin him in the end. He won't build those relationships needed to function properly in society if he doesn't change. His main issue is he sees himself as the victim. That's not an alpha way to think about life. I don't even know why he makes the videos. He must not care about his reputation. That short term thinking. At this point his videos have already been downloaded so theres nothing he could really do. I agree that Kent isn't technically a nice guy. If he was he would be in church trying to serve his god the best way he could and not be worried about "worldly" affairs. We also see him cursing out people on the net and threatening couples who show affection in public. His bitterness is taking over like Eliot Rodgers. He needs to sit down some where.

^^^This! Pure truth! He refuses to listen to anybody. I suspect that he will continue down this path, every so often, he may take a step in the right direction, face a setback and go steps down the wrong path. I figure it's going to get worse as he gets older. People are willing to cut him some slack now cause he's in his early 20's but once he hits 30? Wooh...all bets are off!

 

[Littleblackchyld]

I'll go out on a limb and I think what @Succubus was saying Kent never mentioned being on special ed or anything else. His district is big and has some money in it. They have to have some slow track stuff. Classes more set at easier math and some time on coping skills would have benefited him more than pre calc. Mandatory tutoring etc. Having Kent do some team building stuff would have suited him better than an SAT prep class.

Again, parents' and family's fault. They are with him on a regular basis and should have seen that he needed help. They should have gone to the school, requested the help and if the school put up a fight about it, you handle it in the time honored American way - you get a LAWYER.

 

[Bassomatic]

It could have been the other way honestly, I have a friend who works in programs for off track (both high and low) she gets a lot of bad requests and it's such a fight you can't do much at times. If the school said Mrs Kent's Momma, we think he needs special ed slow track etc if she says no it gets to a war that's often not worth the district fighting. My friend has literally got death threats trying to push kids who are dumb as rocks into enrichment programs lol.

 

[ForumLurker]

. People are willing to cut him some slack now cause he's in his early 20's but once he hits 30? Wooh...all bets are off!

Yea no kidding!, that's like half of his life gone right there. I wonder why he didn't go to a university and live on campus. That would of set him straight maybe. BTW I never knew he tried to get a job at lids. That would have been the best job for him since he collects hats.

 

[Bassomatic]

You really are asking why Kent did not move away and go to college? Really?
lol.

If I remember right didn't he apply to manage with no work exp? I agree it could have been a good fit. Needless to say, Kent blamed the guy who got the job, he legit thought they got into his medical records (absurdly illegal mind you) to find a reason to discriminate. The concept of the other person may have a sales back round was lost to him.

 

[Littleblackchyld]

It could have been the other way honestly, I have a friend who works in programs for off track (both high and low) she gets a lot of bad requests and it's such a fight you can't do much at times. If the school said Mrs Kent's Momma, we think he needs special ed slow track etc if she says no it gets to a war that's often not worth the district fighting. My friend has literally got death threats trying to push kids who are dumb as rocks into enrichment programs lol.

Oh God... Because they don't want their child labeled as 'slow', they fight putting the child in programs that could help so the child stays in regular classes and either: a) gets frustrated and drops out or b) skates by barely but is unable to get into any additional education or training because their fundamentals are shaky as hell. This condemns the child to a lifetime of suffering by parents who loved their child so much that they refused to give the child the help s/he desperately needed for the sake of the family's image. Yeah, that makes tons of sense!