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The quote by Anais Nin comes to mind
'We see things not as they are but as we are'
applies more than ever in the aspie world, since they are unable to see from any other perspective than their own, rigid and deeply skewed view.
I don't want to knock any confidence they may have but their continuous misunderstanding of social queues is going to keep them running in circles, making the same mistakes misreading the true sentiments of their intended paramours.
I hate to see them so lost & upset when their efforts are thwarted and think it's due to some random made-up reason rather than reality.

Prime example is the false bravado of 'I made a girl laugh'. It is lost on them that the girls aren't laughing like they are witty or funny -but are just being polite with an uncomfortable approach forced on them. Getting hit on by strangers in a public setting is something many of us loathe & try to avoid giving an opportunity, i.e. avoiding eye contact, rushing out of class or the area when you see them lurking, pretend to be on your phone, etc. Of course, all of that is lost on them and they keep trying to chase them down or get them alone to spring on the date quest, maximizing the creep level. Worse is the customer service girl who is cornered & has to deal with it. It gets easier but is uncomfortable nonetheless.

Alas, it really is tough for these guys who are so so dry and literal and completely void of any wit or humor to understand this. How they think they are funny & legit make girls laugh when they have not a lick of a sense of humor nor comprehend sarcasm. Funny people are quick witted and wit requires a high intellect as well as an innate knack for timing. Quickly surveying a situation, seeing the irony or absurdity and then forming & articulating a sardonic quip is a talent that you either have or don't but requires a certain level of intelligence that aspies simply don't typically have with their literal & one sided, one dimensional perspective.

Yes girls love guys that make them laugh. But awkward dead air filler snickers is NOT laughing!!! Nor enjoyable in any shape or form for a girl. But it is a sure way to get turned down.
Since these guys have no wit or humor, they need to cultivate other assets to use in approaches because that one is never going to work. And falsely convincing themselves that girls dig their comedic abilities is not doing them any favors to be delusioned.
 
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It's interesting because it's false bravado because they are still self doubting self conscious people, but they also lack any social skills so that nervous giggle is taken to them as a hearty belly laugh. Also mad points for the word sardonic.

I think what is most annoying/sad/creepy about his joy in making a girl laugh, he wasn't happy he brought her joy. He really thinks she did like the comments. He sees this as an in, or his skills. A victory, not a kind act like holding a door.

While they quote Websters they don't really get what confidence is, they think you can fake it. With out social cues and skills you can't. You just come off weird and cocky. With Kent's mental disorders picking up on social skills may never happen. So him planning on faking something he can't is just an awful game plan.

I think that's also part of his victim mindset and game, he can't win his unrealistic goal so he won't have anything and live off ass pats. I think I'll take a note from Kent set unreal goal and be sad.

>TFW not starting MLB pitcher gonna quit my job and move back in to parents and be NEET PS send asspats.

Humor also takes real confidence, because esp to strangers jokes will bomb, now I love to crack jokes esp in person. Most of mine fail but I'm still considered a funny person and jokester. Humor is an instant result and you need to laugh off when they flop. These guys go into month long depressive swings when a girl doesn't text them back "fast enough" humor is a real bad way for them to go.
 
[QUOTE="Bassomatic, post: 1823189, member: 5840"

Sorry, my quoting text attempt the right way was a fail. Replying to 2 of Bassomatic's comments:

Bassomatic said:
Humor also takes real confidence, because esp to strangers jokes will bomb, now I love to crack jokes esp in person. Most of mine fail but I'm still considered a funny person and jokester. Humor is an instant result and you need to laugh off when they flop. These guys go into month long depressive swings when a girl doesn't text them back "fast enough" humor is a real bad way for them to go.[/QUOTE]

That's what's so great about truly funny people. The confidence, and level of self assurance to roll with it and shake it off and not fall apart or brood all night when a joke fslls flat. It's the ability (wit + intelligence) to breeze through it seemingly without a thought. No one wants to be around someone they have to walk on eggshells around or worse, force laughter because they aren't funny at all but you don't want them to be crushed. That really does more harm than good though it is with kind intent.

If I may, I need to use you in my analogy Bass. This is pretty 'funny' for lack of a better word atm but I have been in so many fits of LMAO that I'm in tears, my cherks & belly aching. Bawling so hard I had to take a break from your recaps because I couldn't see -or breathe! Not a but of exaggeration.

The face palm part is when one of them criticized the recaps as 'dumb' to write everything they said in the video. Kid you not. Had to pick my jaw off the floor. Unreal that all those masterpieces you transform from cringy & painful to sheer brilliance & comedic gold are wholly lost on them is...mind blowing.
Just emphasizes how crucial intelligence is to humor. I always find it so jarring to be around people with not just no comedic talent but also the lack to 'get' any humor. They never laugh! I'm not in your league Bass but I very much appreciate the art of skillful satire. Notice that not once have we seen either of them laugh -at all -ever?? (Real. not forced, fake (crazy) laughing like we saw from G-man!

Bassomatic said:
While they quote Websters they don't really get what confidence is, they think you can fake it. With out social cues and skills you can't. You just come off weird and cocky. With Kent's mental disorders picking up on social skills may never happen. So him planning on faking something he can't is just an awful game plan.

This. ^^ I just saw the other one actually say that 'working on himself' is a waste of time & doesn't do anything (to further his love quest) ? ? Kid you not.

Not sure what but...something...is just completely missing in their brains. It makes me very sad for them to be so out of it, removed..

Once more. The most inexplicible perspective imaginable. These guys are fascinating subjects for a psychological case study. It's intriguing to me to observe & 'analyze' and learn how & why very varied we humans are.
 
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I'm sorry I didn't mean to humble brag I'm the joker of my friends group or anything like that. I'm glad my writing is enjoyed because I feel it lacks the emotion and a normal person to read my sarcasm etc where I feel most of my humor goes.

Now to un powerlevel that, some people who aren't socially graced can write like monsters and never get social skills. Honestly this is Kent's best bet. When you can build a social cult you are so far ahead. When you can win people over in a medium they will deal with your off personal interactions.

Now with autism like Kent has he might not be able to write well via texts to cover his social things. I honestly think he may need to bang a novel out to pull ladies. He's so happy and proud he's not changing though so it's not gonna get better.
 
Sunnygold said:
The quote by Anais Nin comes to mind
'We see things not as they are but as we are'
applies more than ever in the aspie world, since they are unable to see from any other perspective than their own, rigid and deeply skewed view.
I don't want to knock any confidence they may have but their continuous misunderstanding of social queues is going to keep them running in circles, making the same mistakes misreading the true sentiments of their intended paramours.
I hate to see them so lost & upset when their efforts are thwarted and think it's due to some random made-up reason rather than reality.

Prime example is the false bravado of 'I made a girl laugh'. It is lost on them that the girls aren't laughing like they are witty or funny -but are just being polite with an uncomfortable approach forced on them. Getting hit on by strangers in a public setting is something many of us loathe & try to avoid giving an opportunity, i.e. avoiding eye contact, rushing out of class or the area when you see them lurking, pretend to be on your phone, etc. Of course, all of that is lost on them and they keep trying to chase them down or get them alone to spring on the date quest, maximizing the creep level. Worse is the customer service girl who is cornered & has to deal with it. It gets easier but is uncomfortable nonetheless.

Alas, it really is tough for these guys who are so so dry and literal and completely void of any wit or humor to understand this. How they think they are funny & legit make girls laugh when they have not a lick of a sense of humor nor comprehend sarcasm. Funny people are quick witted and wit requires a high intellect as well as an innate knack for timing. Quickly surveying a situation, seeing the irony or absurdity and then forming & articulating a sardonic quip is a talent that you either have or don't but requires a certain level of intelligence that aspies simply don't typically have with their literal & one sided, one dimensional perspective.

Yes girls love guys that make them laugh. But awkward dead air filler snickers is NOT laughing!!! Nor enjoyable in any shape or form for a girl. But it is a sure way to get turned down.
Since these guys have no wit or humor, they need to cultivate other assets to use in approaches because that one is never going to work. And falsely convincing themselves that girls dig their comedic abilities is not doing them any favors to be delusioned.
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At the same time, if a woman is interested in the man, then it becomes a pleasant event. Getting approached by weird men in bars where it's socially acceptable even is not enjoyable for women, but if the guy is desirable to them, it will make their night. You can't just tell guys who aren't very good to stop trying, because then how will they ever get better? It's not possible, you're basically asking them to give up on life, because picking up women is only really learned through experience (just most people learn earlier). The approaching part isn't as much the problem, though IMO "day game" (approaching women during the day) is weird and I would never do it. And receptive women don't always throw out signs, sometimes if you like them you really do just have to go over and introduce yourself regardless. These interactions aren't all failures many times they will work out well.

I don't think Kent needs to know or even think that the girl wasn't laughing at his wit and charm. He feels good about it, it's given him a MUCH needed confidence boost. If he discovers she was just laughing out of nervousness he will lose that confidence and might even doubt himself when he really DOES make a girl laugh.

I would tell him not to pursue that woman anymore, though, the excuse being that she has a man. But let him think he did a good job and reassure him. It's just the spurt of confidence he needs to keep going and keep improving and believing in himself.

Kent is good enough for a woman, definitely. He is good enough for a supermodel. Just because he is not everyone's cup of tea... Well he will be someone's cup of tea. It's a very big world with all sorts of weird and wonderful people in it. Kent is a weird and wonderful man and there will be a weird and wonderful woman somewhere. Maybe he's not funny, it doesn't matter. It's helpful to make a girl laugh but you don't HAVE to be very funny for a woman to like you. I'm not that funny usually, because nerves stifle my humor completely, but it hasn't made it impossible for me to succeed.

It will get better for him in time. At first he was on the WRONG track. Now he is on the right track, he's being positive, he's believing in himself, he's ken-trying. He came close once and he will come close again. And he will have more and more close calls until he finally succeeds. If he stays in this current mindset I estimate he will succeed within 1 year to 2 years at most. I wish he would approach girls who are shorter than him though.
 
MrLooks said:
I don't think Kent needs to know or even think that the girl wasn't laughing at his wit and charm. He feels good about it, it's given him a MUCH needed confidence boost. . . I would tell him not to pursue that woman anymore, though, the excuse being that she has a man. . . At first he was on the WRONG track. Now he is on the right track, he's being positive, he's believing in himself, he's ken-trying. He came close once and he will come close again. And he will have more and more close calls until he finally succeeds. If he stays in this current mindset I estimate he will succeed within 1 year to 2 years at most. I wish he would approach girls who are shorter than him though.
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QFT absolutely but he still needs to constantly refining what works for him and what doesn't and if he's going to keep to that timetable estimated by you here MrLooks, he will have to up the number of potential partners he meets and courts preferably exponentially at the very least if not geometrically ideally. The stuff about it not mattering if she was laughing at him or with him is exactly right, it matters as much equally as whether each of us in this thread are doing either as well in regards to MrBrown, not at all. As long as he Ken-try's eventually he will Ken-plete the act, I'm sure of it. (I'll show myself out now, all apologies.)
 
Bassomatic said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CVeGFr-gGCoI feel so lonely\ I hope she doesn't use me as an emotional tampon or anything.
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"I feel so lonely I hope she doesn't use me as an emotional tampon or anything."


Anyone find it fucking ironic that Kent wore his red shirt for this?

Hell I could imagine him dressing up as a tampon for Halloween.. He might be short enough to make it work.
 
Liquid Kent said:
I tried to interact with him in his latest livestream. After a few of my comments of the usual Metal Gear-speak, he went to bed.
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Are you the girl who came in near the end and spoke about this forum? If you speak to Kent you should probably keep your identity a secret, he probably feels like you are out to get him and wouldn't trust you.

With all of our powers united, we can steer Kent towards his first girlfriend. Imagine little Kentlets being born, coming out with snapbacks on. Kent standing there as the proud father.
 

I thought he liked being alone... guess lone wolf saga is over.

Kent is a lol cow, as long as he plans on staying one (and he's shown no attempts to stop) I don't care if he wants a girl friend a ferrari a trip to Spain or what have you, he's a lolcow. If Kent wants to unfuck his life, then he will find many of us willing to help.

He's making the mistake many normal people make of looking to fill a void with a person, being Kent he's also looking to fill the day to day life things he fails at with her. Hence the fuck mommy. His image is hugely important.

Pretending Kent got his dream a perfect 10 dream woman who likes his hobbies bends to his will and is loaded so Kent can sit around play video games. Once he reads one post calling him a house bitch or someone says his girl ain't all that . He will lash out claim you are jealous but deep down be shaken because he's not confident or with any self worth. Because his mind set and behavior Kent would be a lol cow with a girl friend. I see no reason to help cows, Kent isn't in dire straights like when Chris's house burnt down.

Also while not sounding like a stickler read the rules don't get emotionally attached to cows. That one is for your sanity :)

Kent needs guidance and help but he's got a history of lashing out at those who offer it so why bother? There are tons of good people who will listen, I'm happy to help people it's a joy in my life but i'm also not going to try to stop the tides.
 
MrLooks said:
With all of our powers united, we can steer Kent towards his first girlfriend.
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:optimistic:, Kent is going to have to steer Kent towards his first girlfriend port of call. If he decides to (fat chance) take some good advice on the way there he'll just add some thrust to the engines taking him on the path, but he'll still have to navigate the entire affair to a conclusion.

Lilbroski said:
most of u just watch him for your entertainment instead of helping.I know some of u are in the youtube comments talking shit to him.Crazy yall can make fun of a dude that's autistic and clearly needs guidance
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Why are you talking about :c in a Ken-try thread? I only watch and comment about Kent's videos here, lol, calm down. Go out and get laid with a girl or guy you know IRL or sit back and have a :lol: because Kentray Brown is funny.
 
Lilbroski said:
This is what kent talks about,most of u just watch him for your entertainment instead of helping.I know some of u are in the youtube comments talking shit to him.Crazy yall can make fun of a dude that's autistic and clearly needs guidance
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To clarify Lilbroski, I haven't seen anyone on here that watches him to make fun of him. While he is entertaining in many respects, it depends on one's taste, and there is surely no shortage of entertaining topics & youtubers to choose from.
From what I've seen, many here find Kentry to be an interesting offbeat character who is intriguing /relatable to many of us who are also offbeat as well.
As far as giving him advice, plenty have offered sound suggestions & guidance that he ushally adamantly rejects.
The efforts have been with good intentions and kind, hoping to see him improve and lead a happier life.

What I personally find funny is not Kent or Jamil nor making fun of them. It's pretty weak if that is the sole intent of watching someone.
The humor for me is in the delivery of the recaps and general observations that are of interest. Sometimes they are ironic, satirical or just something that others can learn from or ponder, in the form of advice or observations that can be useful to any reader.
The interesting part (to me) is that many of the recaps are simply transcribing their own words. The way they are written is what I appreciate.
The part that bewilders Kentry and others like him -is what perplexes me about them & others who only see in a black & white perspective, which only allows them to see the recaps as a transcription of their words. They don't /can't see anything beyond that, hence it is a usless repetition of their videos.
That divide is what intrigues me about how they think and gives me more perspective into how different we all view the world, from the most mundane to the most mystifying. This 'interaction' (of sorts) gives me a greater understanding of how to better reach people in my life who process information quite differently than I do, and gives me a better grasp on how to share information to understand each other better and help one another where we collide because we simply don't get how one can arrive at certain beliefs from what we may see as quite apparent or something fundamentally accepted as common knowledge.
Not sure I explained that well at all but just wanted to clarify a bit.
I think most of us have a genuine interest in finding a common ground and helping each other along the way when we can.
There are big opportunities to do so in this arena, and it's nice to have a sounding board (IMO) though it may not be appreciated as such. At any rate, it's a unique medium that many can benefit from. The key is to have an open mind & see beyond the obvious. Granted that is not a trait inherent to many who we critique but the door is always open for anyone that wants to accept the help or wisdom offered.
We know that many are resistant to anything that doesn't coddle and compliment them, and they falsely believe that builds them up, instead of honest constructive advice. That was my fear of him accepting that others see him as funny when in the long run, will give him false confidence which isn't beneficial to building a strong foundation based on untruths or misconstrued ideas.
Kent will do better if he works on being less defensive and not assume all comments that aren't flattering are to spite or mock him.
I think he needs to try to open his mind more & not think everyone is against him. Many of us see a lot of virtues and assets in him that we want to offer that he might not see but communicating to opposition is a difficult place for him to build anything from.
 
MrLooks said:
Are you the girl who came in near the end and spoke about this forum? If you speak to Kent you should probably keep your identity a secret, he probably feels like you are out to get him and wouldn't trust you.
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Nah dude, I just kept addressing him as Solid Kent and kept telling him enough with the "Ya smell me" because it was downright abnormal to be talking like that, what more with girls. I threw in a Raging Raven quote for good measure but after he tells me off saying "He can do and say whatever he likes, and how do I like that, Jabroni", before sulking and going off.

Never felt so honored being told off by an angry manlet.
 

The new Kent video made me laugh. He criticises women for going after men who "have nothing going for them". It's a bit rich coming from Kent since he has no job, no education further than high school, no friends and no prospects other than getting another retail job. He seems to think that having a driving license and a car is enough to put him ahead of other men.
 
AlexS said:
The new Kent video made me laugh. He criticises women for going after men who "have nothing going for them". It's a bit rich coming from Kent since . . . He seems to think that having a driving license and a car is enough to put him ahead of other men.
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Well, I mean, he's not wrong about that, but the number of men it puts him in front of is a minority of other heterosexual guys. As long as he doesn't think because he has a car he should have sex he's only slightly deluded and not supreme gentleman batshit. He's almost bottomed out here though, very sad to hear, I've got him timed on a polarity swing top to bottom or vice versa in about every 16 days or so, does that seem right to the rest of you watching these things?

Instead of wasting time making this wish video, Kent should write all this down and KEEP IT SECRET that he has a list of things he wants in a girl to check off against later if he has a prospect to make into a committed relationship down the road to see how she matches up with what he needs, wants, and would like to have but wouldn't really make a difference in a girlfriend, when that time comes. On the other side of the coin, let's imagine what Kent's future girlfriend might look for in potential suitors, in no particular order since this is only a thought experiment;

1. Has a car.
2. Has a job.
3. Makes her laugh through creative misinterpretations of shared experiences together.
4. Is emotionally open and available for intimacy together.
5. Is physically attractive/clean/takes care of themselves and their area around them.
6. Has their own place that is conducive to romance when she's there.

Those cover most of the points that are rewarded when crossing the magic pill into the end-zone I think, yeah? Well Kent covers . . . maybe two of them satisfactorily right now? 33% success or completion rate loses you your job, scholarship, or whatever is on the line in real life usually. If he concentrates on changing and improving some things he's lacking on, maybe he'll have a better chance of relationship success, or he could just chill and not worry about fixing his own life to make it more appealing to an attractive woman, either or.

That's a very loud clothes combination, Kentray has mad balls for wild color schemes the local sports team wears that I for one would probably never attempt. I give him credit there and for wanting to keep Ken-trying.
 
AlexS said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XHGkXxFTg1k
The new Kent video made me laugh. He criticises women for going after men who "have nothing going for them". It's a bit rich coming from Kent since he has no job, no education further than high school, no friends and no prospects other than getting another retail job. He seems to think that having a driving license and a car is enough to put him ahead of other men.
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Kent is enough.

Who are we to say he has nothing to offer? I bet there are at least a few women in the world who would find Kent to be the most wonderful and attractive man. You know, let's say an obvious example, a short romantically-inexperienced bible girl who loves WWE, maybe suffers a bit from depression too. But there are many different women who would love Kent.

If you are not an evil person who murders, rapes, assaults, or robs people etc. then you are enough.

Having flaws to iron out doesn't mean you aren't enough. It's just that ironing them out increases your appeal to a broader range of women, and depending on what the flaw is, could also have the added benefit of making you a happier person too.

Kent is enough, I am enough, whoever is reading this is enough.
 
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