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Sunnygold said:
It will always be wash and repeat with him, doubly so due to his autism.

As we know, he wants no solid advice, only praise and encouragement of his bad behavior and goes with that which always turn out to be detrimental.
He can't see around a corner regardless how many times he gets struck at that corner.

This is likely all about Beautiful rejecting him yet to save face insists they are friends. Obviously acquaintances & friends are interchangeable in his mind.
And wants to beat himself because he doesn't attract a model type chick. The fact that he thinks that a virgin with nothing to offer, and n0 experience, personality, charisma, humor, goals, ambition or interests can attract a girl like that, really highlights his lack of reality.

But rather than accept that he's not getting such a girl, he can't alter his mindset to try another way.
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The turn of events on Beautiful was... odd.

Then again, so is Kent's views on the world and how he lives in it.
 
Part of the humor and sadness is the rejection from the cashier was real and happened, months ago. It didn't phase him then. Now it's about saving face.

Quick recap, she turned him down. He asked her out again, she said she's with someone. Kent kept hitting on her, and probably still does. During the saga, Kent starts bringing up how he's sure she's into him and he won't allow a friend zoning. This also is the start of his theory women lie about being in relationships, but all women are also taken.

Kent hasn't even been around people enough to know how to save face correctly. I've chased tail and been friend zoned, almost all of us have. Sometimes it ends well even. Kent lacks (hell almost all men that age do too to be fair) the experience to see what draws you to a person. Kent says women are all about looks, yet ALL he has to go on this girl is looks. He's too off to manage small talk, so he knows nothing about her. His draw to her is for one reason, and frankly a bad reason. There are so many ways to save face in the situation he was in. He couldn't make one up, so now he's got his nose up like... yea I can do better so I allow her to be my friend.

Not matching up to him saying, I don't want female friends (or male). Kent is with out friends so anyone who even chats to him becomes one, I think we all know someone that lonely. I chat it up with the dude at my local places, most normal people do. I don't call my dry cleaner my friend. I don't have them to my home, I don't know their middle name etc. I feel incredibly weird explaining what a friend is, but since Kent lurks he kinda needs to learn.

They ain't friends, never have and because his actions never will be. Kent's that weird customer you deal with and it's a bright and low point in your daily grind.

I still chuckle at the phone lie. He asked for hers, she said no, He gave her his. Then she gave her his? Makes no sense.
 
Yes he does need that vast difference to be explained.
We don't call the cashier we have polite exchanges with a friend -because that is not someone you have a history with of doing things together who you can call at 2am if need be.
Kent really needs to take a logics and social graces course to start. Instead of fixating on his lack of luck and rejection (Debbie Downer), he could do something constructive, productive, LEARN something.
Oh but I forgot, he doesn't need to self improve or learn anything as he already knows all there is...
 
The frustrating thing about Kent (despite boasting about how he's a good judge of character) is his inability to differentiate between someone offering good sound reasonable advice...from the advice from Big Boss Calvin, a 45 yr old misogynistic virgin with apparent deep mental issues, no real life experience and still living with his mama.
He also refuses to improve his mind or station in life because, a girl should adore him for who he is now-therefore he's off the hook from doing any self development or expanding his interests or any work on himself. Just like Jamil thinks, the girl should be be completely content (read vapid and shallow) watching anime & playing video games as Kent's dream girl, should want only him, and watching football & WWE Nothing of substance needed. No mental gymnastics for these boys.

Despite the complexity and intricacies of relationships, having no experience nor even platonic relationships, and no communication or interpersonal skills. or anything insightful, interesting or engaging going on in their lives, they will instinctively know how to have a successful one.

Gee how are these charming, ambitious dynamos forever single?
 
Sunnygold said:
The frustrating thing about Kent (despite boasting about how he's a good judge of character) is his inability to differentiate between someone offering good sound reasonable advice...from the advice from Big Boss Calvin, a 45 yr old misogynistic virgin with apparent deep mental issues, no real life experience and still living with his mama.
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Calvin is actually in his 30s; he just looks much older because of his evil personality.
 
Sunnygold said:
The frustrating thing about Kent (despite boasting about how he's a good judge of character) is his inability to differentiate between someone offering good sound reasonable advice...from the advice from Big Boss Calvin, a 45 yr old misogynistic virgin with apparent deep mental issues, no real life experience and still living with his mama.
He also refuses to improve his mind or station in life because, a girl should adore him for who he is now-therefore he's off the hook from doing any self development or expanding his interests or any work on himself. Just like Jamil thinks, the girl should be be completely content (read vapid and shallow) watching anime & playing video games as Kent's dream girl, should want only him, and watching football & WWE Nothing of substance needed. No mental gymnastics for these boys.

Despite the complexity and intricacies of relationships, having no experience nor even platonic relationships, and no communication or interpersonal skills. or anything insightful, interesting or engaging going on in their lives, they will instinctively know how to have a successful one.

Gee how are these charming, ambitious dynamos forever single?
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You hit the nail on the head my friend. Not much else to say about it. Not to mention, if Kent finds a girl that likes him, she MUST be a virgin, because he doesn't want to ''stick his you know what where some other dudes nasty penis been in there''. He said this in one of his old videos if you didn't know.
 
Also fascinating is the complete botchery of the meaning of confidence by these incels..

Their only 'confidence' is in their belief that they can just conjure it up at will, and turn it on and off like a switch, but it makes no difference either way...so why bother. Lol
Oh the tricks the mind plays to protect oneself ..

Then, when the turtle proves this newfound confidence by throwing on a cape in a sudden grand spectacle making an absurd bombastic display ..and it fails spectacularly, well there you go, conclusive proof that confidence does not matter! :cool:

The curious thing is how the misguided belief that they need do nothing to better themselves like every other successful person does continuously every single day. Nope they are completely at their peak right now. A woman should see that & instinctively adore them (but not based on looks the way they choose their love quests) and not on intelligence, personality, charm, accomplishments, interests but on just being.

Oh wait, strike that. Forgot the most important attributes. They should be adored for being 'nice' guys, not sagging their pants, (drugs, rap, i.e. not being a thug) and for having a job. Oh and for caring about the girl's feelings; the girl they want nothing from... except to make them whole..
Got it now. Perfectly reasonable and not at all selfish or oblivious.

My advice would be start being productive.

No girl wants a dude who laments about his woes & mopes around all day obsessing over his lack of attraction.
The men who women find attractive are doers not self pitiers but men who seek and find ways around their obstacles-which isn't accomplished by moping and dwelling on being a loser. All that does is permanently cement it and demolish all self worth.
An attractive man is not fearful or ultra paranoid waiting for the next rejection. Successful men don't even flinch at rejection -and yes, they get it too but we don't know because they turn it around so quickly that they are busy working on something bigger, something substantial not related to obsessively pursuit of subjective validation from random chicks. Kent should think about how much more appealing that is in anyone's eyes. Do you want a moper who is a self ascribed loser? Or an ambitious too busy to flinch achiever of bigger pursuits than the attention of a checkout girl?
Then what if you get her attention?
You better have something else to hold her interest because a guy with no other qualities or drive than being a nice guy is not going to hold her.
 
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Kent doesn't want to put the work in. So it won't get better, it's that simple.

Also he's unaware you gotta keep what you earn. Much like a car needs new tires, anything you have or earn you need to keep. Or work to lose. Resting on your laurels is an awful trait. Kent is far too young to lose the hunger in life. He chalks it up to his depression and that does honestly play a part I don't want to imply he is 100% at fault but he's good 90ish at fault.

I think if he found some girl friend he'd hate it quickly. He's gotta listen to her stories, pretend to care about her nails. You know those little social things people do? Kent doesn't do them as is, and in a relationship those little acts of kindness to someone you love are even more important because it's not just to keep on their good side it's an investment in seeing them happy.

Because how lazy and selfish he is, the worst thing for him is to get his goal. He'd want her around to show off and sexually service him but he'd hate having to spend extra money on her and you know care about her. We've seen how callus he can be, both being autistic and selfish.
Relationships of all types take work. You gotta text your buddy just to check up, take him out for a beer when his job lets him go. You gotta be the shoulder to cry when your s/o's pet dies etc etc.

Kent's aversion to work means he won't change or try to. He's gonna get more bitter as more and more people keep passing him along in life. Early 20s are when people start getting shit together or at least know what they want. Kent's full NEET with no desire to change. I know we should be a bit more upswung with the new year but with the past few months seeing things.

I have to say honestly, with out a serious wake up call it's done Kent's really planted his flag on the hill of austim and will die on that hill. When his young metabolism slows and he gets older... Calvin is his future. Since he's probably reading this. Maybe that's your wake up call Kent, if you don't drop these antics you will end up a laughing stock with a permeant history that makes you unemployable, comically fat, racist, angry and ALONE.
 
You nailed it Bass.
The inevitably of his future as Calvin is evidenced by Kent only relating to and emulating such people.
What is there to change if you're one step away from being your mentor?
Rather than seek an admirable accomplished role model, Calvin is who he looks up to. ?!
Pretty much sums it all up right there. Very sad.
Bleak forecast.

I keep thinking about that ridiculous over-tge-top WWE impersonation of Nocturnal Kent to Nocturnal Beautiful.:lol:
Some cringy chest pounding & boasting 'I'm Nocturnal Kent! I run the nights up in dis bish! ' uggh I cringe from embarrassment just imsgining it.
What he should think about is there he is projecting a completely false image...so what happens when he gets a date and that guy with all the hutzpah and false bravado is nowhere in sight? Don't you think she'll be let down to find that was all an act, covering an emotionally weak, insecure, ambition-less guy who instead of pursuing and securing a future, wastes his life obsessesing over failure and rejection and what he doesn't have..rather than being that go-getter and not getting deterred by pebbles on the path of pursuit.
Just a thought. You can fill your head with whatever you choose. What you choose to ruminate about determines if your future is a depressing dead end road or limitless and bright.
 
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In regards to his upbeat personality not matching his true self, I think it's two fold, he has a huge ego so he kinda thinks he runs the city at night, because let's be frank night work is much less common, even large cites are near ghost towns till you get into metropolises and that only some sections are alive. So he's got a lot to himself feeling powerful for some reason.

The other part is he doesn't think ahead enough. He thinks if this pulls her, once I got her legally I own her and also I'm so great she won't feel baited and switched. He's very quick to call others out for doing such to get a woman.

Frankly, in a few years, women and men grow up a bit more and look for more serious things, some are ready to settle and mature at his age. Even if a girl liked the "real" Kent she may walk because his dishonest intro. I've done it to women even and I've seen female friends of mine deal with guys pulling shit like that, borrowing their buddies Benz for the weekend etc. Dishonesty is a huge turn off, and in cases like that saying yea, I drive an 84 Toyota, might not scream I got loot, or I'm a big shot, but you got wheels that's a plus/enough.

My theory with Kent and grudges he feels it gives him power. If he gets any grasp of power in his life he can get revenge. For example if Kent sold cars for a living. Someone who he didn't like in middle school showed up Kent would say sticker or get the fuck out. Feeling like he won an epic battle, when he just really lit a commission check on fire over a 20 year old paper air plane.

We all have insecurities and wounds. Kent is just that though, really out side of main stream media and hobbies Kent is nothing more than his injuries. No one faults people for being insecure or damaged, people fault you when that IS your personality. Think about if you met someone, after a few weeks of dating they admit they really don't like to cuddle because sexual abuse, they paint and are funny... you figure out how to make things work. Kent in 2 minutes of meeting him complains the entire world is out to get him, his hobbies include watching old WWE and crying himself to sleep. Yea, women will line up for that.

I know in the past some people said Kent should go for older women looking for a project. Kent's a box of lego's with no instructions right now, and chooses to stay that way. He's not a 3 wheeled car. What sounds like an easier project? Honestly if you sat Kent down and said I will give you a magic masters degree, what do you want it in?

The only thing I've heard him mention as a dream career was police officer or NFL knowing both were impossible for him. Nothing about other things he enjoys and would make into a vocation, or even that he has the mind set of work is work and passion is more important. It's pretty selfish to not get a dream job and not work. I mean, maybe I should quit because I didn't make f-1 with a side gig getting blow jobs from Hillary Duff and weekend fighter pilot lol.
 
Sunnygold said:
You nailed it Bass.
The inevitably of his future as Calvin is evidenced by Kent only relating to and emulating such people.
What is there to change if you're one step away from being your mentor?
Rather than seek an admirable accomplished role model, Calvin is who he looks up to. ?!
Pretty much sums it all up right there. Very sad.
Bleak forecast.
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He's fucked anyway, he's just one of "those" guys who are absolutely hopeless. He will still be a virgin on his death bed. Even Steve Hoca is more alpha. He needs to go for real midget beta nerdy girls with social anxiety or something to get laid as himself. It's clear he'd rather die a virgin while being "himself" (AKA while acting like the biggest beta on Earth), so that's his only hope.
 
Just a minor update, Kent blocked me on Instagram, i assume it's because i made a comment on Philkos page telling him to stop hanging around with those TFL guys. He made some other comments several hours ago, with the usual Kent-isms. This is what he said:

''You are better than me man. I spent my New Years alone. I feel like doing this to myself throwing hot pot on beef stew on me. ''

''No woman cares about me or my feelings. No matter how confident I was, all i did was for made fun of and put down''.

I am grateful that Kent is not my brother, having that type of person around always negative, refusing to go through with your advice yet keeps complaining and doesn't want to acknowledge his own faults. I can safely say he will still be having these problems when he's over 30, not hard to see when he's stubborn as a bull.
 
Kent has a funny way of insulting himself and threatening self harm, what next, I'm gonna pour chow mien in my mouth till I drown? It goes with out saying Kent is an awful judge of character, look at his "friends" they all use him. I hold a larger hate boner towards Philko because he's the only one smart enough to know what he's doing, and just doesn't care. He's using Kent for vid views for his D list youtube channel.

Much like his other "friendships" Kent looks up to, hates, and wants to be Philko. Philko has tried some sound advice where Kent chimped on him, then tried it out, half assed and yelled at him more. Then sucks up to him.

It amazes me Kent still doesn't grasp confidence, and his wording really irks me, lots of people care about strangers. Kent is using under handed wording to say, no one wants to date him. It's a mix of pity party to himself and abusing women saying they are cruel. Not wanting to date someone doesn't mean you don't care, but Kent's too good for the friend zone. When you draw a line in the sand saying you love me or hate me most people tend to jump on the side you don't want, more so with strange mannerisms, outbursts, odd style, no motivation and lack of maturity.

Ultimatums are kinda a bitch move to start, and Kent doesn't have a reason people should jump on team worship.

I think Kent's autism is a big factor depression puts people in cycles this is nothing new, but he's used to being depressed and alone it's something he's had with him his entire life, so him wanting to change even to be happy would be not only hard something that breaks his comfort zone, and he loves the little bubble he lives in.

I was catching up to some vintage Kent the other night at my reloading bench, I'd love to have chatted with some of the people in his high school. It appears from some old tweets, Kent himself was quite the bully. He used to carry around a bible and shame people, and be quite a snitch. Now a real important question is chicken or egg... If Kent snitched, sure revenge is wrong and all.. but you know why he got stuffed in lockers. But did he snitch because someone threw a paper airplane?

Forgive the longer replies, I'm trying to fill the void of content.
 
Kent should not be allowed policing authority over anyone in society. Ever. In any society, not just US.

All great advice upthread here, however, change is scarier, and more importantly, has more effort involved in enacting it than just staying in your own lane and all those old Kentray operating priorities he spouts. It's hilarious that he shows the exact most important trait for success courting a woman in his creative ideas for self harm, but only like dark humor hilarious because of the tragic irony of Kent's misplaced proficiency. If he could redirect that mental playfulness from testing self harm strategies comments and videos into playfully misinterpreting his experiences with attractive women he sees during his day to day adventures, he'd be so much better off with them.

I could see Kent being a theocratic pest very easily as an adolescent.
 
It's a shame too because, if Kent wasn't A: serious B: undedicated he shows with his self hate, he's got some wheels turning in comedy. Not all funny people are on tv or stand up. Lots of the funniest people are the writers. The beef stew wording is funny. If Kent is gonna turn self loathing into a thing and have wording like that. Why not make it into something?

Self mockery humor is nothing new, I'm quite fond of it. I'm sure many writers/actors etc whom practice it have a lot of those issues, if you've seen the movie funny people it really hits home about how people like that do what they do for approval, and their own self doubt. Who does this sound like we know?

If Kent was willing to write out these rants as he does anyway and hand to a buddy who does open mic night we could see if these fly. Now the down side, I don't think Kent would be ok sharing the glory. He couldn't sit back and see everyone laughing at his friend telling his jokes. If this is the case it's a moot point because the other idea, would be to write books or cartoon. Both of those take work, a lot and we've even suggested to him art as an outlet. He's just not willing to try.

His ego is blocking a chance for him to do well, on something he does already so really scribbling a few cuts at yourself a week wouldn't be more work or different than normal.
 
It's odd how both he & Jamal are so outraged that strangers don't 'care' about them /their feelings and no one 'adores' Kent.

They are in such lala land. They see other couples interact and get enraged but fail to understand
A. they aren't socially skilled like the others they envy and
B. it's not an automatic, it takes work, relating (give and take), listening and observing, and most people have years of interacting socially so by the time they date, they are more at ease than loveshies who never come out of their closet or have even the most minimal interaction with the opposite sex.

It's as if everything has to be spelled out for them that is innately understood in 'normal' people. But then when good advice is offered, they disregard it because they know better -and follow literal idiots and advice of jokers and the mentally ill & socially inept.*sigh*

Hopeless.
 
Well no shit, why should I care about grown men with petty social and mental issues? They could take control and improve but they won't. I guess not getting pity asspats is sociopathic, oops

As for reporting his threats to hurt himself, it won't matter because he'll refuse long term mental help anyway. I'm just worried he's going to hurt someone else, which is why I'd be okay with him getting checked over by professionals. For the sake of others, not for him.
 
Ehh, it's kinda a mixed thing, as when before it got to a point a member was honestly worried. Do not talk about it here until it's blown over. I understand people are saying this in true worry for his safety but it's close to troll plans, because Kent would see as such. Let's be honest too even if its for his own good it'll be hard on Kent.

I seriously doubt Kent is at risk for himself and even lower risk for others. I'm not in his mind though. I'm just a vet of following him. I will end with this, unless you seriously, seriously, feel there is an active risk. Do not do that.
 
Not that these guys ever will look at themselves objectively having no concept of introspection or level of self awareness ...
But even so, I'd like to ask if they can name anything that would make a chick attracted to, let alone, have feelings / adore them? You'd think they'd at least have the wherewithall to cultivate certain attributes that would improve their attractiveness.
But nope, don't have to do a thing but just be.
And wait... and wait..
It's as if they think no one else puts in any effort whatsoever, it all just magically happens, so why not for them too.
It's really frightening to be so unaware of how life works. And then be enraged when you don't achieve anything by not doing anything...

It's like not studying but expecting to ace a test ..because that one kid does. Not fair!
Will douse myself in beef stew.:mad:

Last thought to ponder- no matter how good looking someone is, or whatever attributes it seems they have more of -if that's all they have, and are dull, boring, depressed, uninteresting, etc. they will find themselves alone too. No matter how much 'luck' others seem to have, the physical part is really a small piece when the negative aspects outweigh it.
Finally, don't put anyone on a pedestal and think they are above you, ever. Not only is it not wanted but that inferiority is your own misperception. When you act intimidated and as if you're beneath another, the insecurity is such a turnoff and no one is attracted to or wants to pity date. Be the fun, not so intense fearful, or insecure person that others want to be around. You will instantly be more attractive and the features that you were self conscious about greatly diminish in the beholder's eyes. But obsesses about insecurities and they are accentuated to others.
It's all in the thoughts you choose to entertain. What you think is what you become. Why self sabotage when you have full control of what you are & what you project.
 
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