KF Guide to Woke Games

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So I went and pirated Pacific Drive for a test-run on my newish computer and HOLY FUCK...

Open the Detailing Station for the first time, there's freak flags I didn't even know existed.
What did you expect from another cartoony graphics, "press A to win" shitty indie game? the whole premise is a STALKER ripoff but unironically gay.
Game accidentally slid into nazi territory because the soy developer complained on twitter about all the third-world knockoffs.
Post some screens or link me.
toby fox is a blm supporter btw and he was pozzed from the beginning:
No shit, he started working on the homestuck game then pivoted to undertale, dude had his head all they way up tumblr's ass during the SJW heyday.
 
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Answer: Mild. I know one of the games you are referring to is Disco Elysium, which should at least be Medium or Heavy due to the Communism parallels it keeps mentioning during your playthrough.
People who think disco elysium is woke are genuinely dumber than niggercattle.

There's 3 communists in disco elysium. A morbidly obese socialist union boss using the union as a front to funnel drugs, and is trying to demolish an impoverished fishing village for this purpose.

A coward communard deserter that is a literal incel that murders people explicitly because he can't get laid and outrights tells you he murders people because he can't get laid and is jealous of men who get pussy multiple times and this guy is the main antagonist.

A bunch of students that haven't left their appartment in months that think communism will work because if they just wish for the crops to grow faster they will through the power of good vibes.

If you try to side with the communists the voice in your head starts calling you an unwashed retard, tells you that communism is literally the ideology of failure and mocks you by suggesting that maybe you'll break the record for the most people killed just like every other communist did.

I swear to god, this game could have a 3 hour ben shapiro compillation as a mandatory watch partway through and we'd still have morons coming out the woodwork to tell us how woke it is because its clear they haven't fucking played it and are paroting shit they heard elsewhere.

The Bene Gesserit decides who is human and who is an animal using the pain box test. In real life we should use disco elysium, if someone is stupid enough to think disco elysium is woke propaganda we can safely put them in the animal pile.
 
I'll put a few, but don't expect me to do fancy write ups or text coloring.

Game: Super Crazy Rhythm Castle
Developer: Second Impact Games
Score: Light
Two characters have woke-ish character designs, one very obviously being "gender ambiguous". Nothing else that stood out beyond that.

Game: Gungrave G.O.R.E.
Developer: Iggymob Co.
Score: None
Quartz (a secondary character) is a bit of a Mary Sue, but she's largely irrelevant to the plot and just feels like she exists as fapbait for one of the devs.

Game: POOLS
Developer: Tensori
Score: None
Walking simulator where you explore a hell of swimming pools. That's it.
 
You're just gonna end up putting every game on here if all it takes is the company trying not to piss off troons because they're insane and they don't wanna deal with it.
Don't put troons in your game. It's not hard, people have managed it for decades. The only game that maybe calls for deliberately offending troons, for accuracy, is a criminal simulator or a police procedural.

TLDR: does the minor presence of gay character, despite not ‘woke’ in the shoehorned/token sense, and especially when otherwise overwhelmed by based content, immediately prevent said game from being any lower than ‘mild’?
Write it up and then we can argue.


I'd like to nominate

Tyranny, by Obsidian Entertainment​

None or Mild (I'm leaning None).

Stronk wamen​

There are warrior women in it, but it's grimdark high fantasy, and sufficient food and magic power matter more than sex. They're not meta-"stronk", they're fair game, you can be rude to them and kill them in interesting ways.
One warrior woman gets domesticated (but you can kill her).
You can kill a queen in the intro choose-your-own-adventure and get the appropriate reputation.
You can kick a character off a tower Sparta-style; in most playthroughs, it will be a woman.
There's a race of manbearpigs led by womanbearpigs: they're gross and can be viewed as satire of stronk wamen. Bringing one with you grosses out a critically important (male) character and can narrow your options for winning the game.
On your side, almost everyone who's important and whom you might want to be polite to is male.
The Overlord Kyros is likely female (her OG literary inspiration is explicitly female); the victory condition is you killing or recruiting (by proving your might) all her officers and founding your own empire (they added an option to stay faithful in the DLC, I heard it's unsatifying, Kyros is a bitch and should be shown her place). You don't have to seethe through the game for the payout, you can make a fool out of her right in chapter 1.
Potential party members are 4 females, 2 males, the strongest and most sensible is an old white male.

LGBTQIAP​

No troons.
No faggots (I think).
One dyke: her wife (not a dyke) marries and kills her for her property, you investigate and can extort or execute the "grieving widow". The unfortunate implication is that lesbian marriage is legal, or at least was legal before you conquered the place. (But it is a degenerate and corrupt place that stands out even in a grimdark world.)
No romance therefore no gay romance.
Kyros is variously referred to as "he" or "she" by characters but (I think) never "they".

Social justice​

None: the selling point of the game. You can choose to be cruel or benevolent but never have to submit to anyone.
No party members are forced on you. The game is winnable solo.
Reputation is on two axes: Favor and Wrath with factions (Wrath means they don't like you), Loyalty and Fear (both are good) with party members. This means you never have to suck up to a party member.
The northerners prize "perfect training, rigid discipline, respect for the law, and family" and are racist toward southerners. All of the northerners are white and have Greek or Roman names, except the potential party member, who looks like a pajeet in his portrait and smells like one (not a joke!); you can force him to take a bath but there's an achievement for not doing so. It's hilariously racist.
The southerners are a savage horde of niggers and wiggers. They have rapper nicknames. Their leader is a northerner. One of your potential party members is a female wigger.

Chargen​

In character creation, there are two sexes (male and female, with the symbols), three body types: lean athletic, short athletic, beefy athletic; five skin colors from Somalian black to tanned Caucasian. The beefy female is still recognizably female, tits, hips and all. At character generation, the starting character doll has a uniformly random sex, a seemingly uniformly random skin color, a random body type seemingly favoring lean athletic, brown hair, beardless, and, depending on sex, one specific Caucasian face and one specific haircut, women's haircut is flowy-feminine. Character voice, for quips, is chosen independently of character sex, out of three male and three female options. Hair style and color (from black to white with some reds) can be changed. Men can also choose a beard. Face features can be changed as a set (5 options for each sex: all males are Caucasian, 1 female is Asian). Portraits are racially diverse but not genderspecial; no twinks, no lolis.

Corporate​

Obsidian is owned by Microsoft, who are woke.
 
What did you expect from another cartoony graphics, "press A to win" shitty indie game? the whole premise is a STALKER ripoff but unironically gay.
I expected a creepy atmosphere and juggling health/fuel/power while actually having to drive well.

Press A to win gets ripped out from under your feet mid-game, btw. Outer Zone will punish you for driving like you're in GTA 5, but Mid Zone is "Xen-lite with a car-shaped HEV suit".

Unfortunately the devs did such a bad job on optimization that my 3090 sounds like a jet engine after one 'run'. Even hardcore fans of driving games like me will probably want to put this on their list of "wait for patches". A modded .pak file without the freak flags would be lovely too, if such a things is possible.

Stardew Valley: Mild, potentially none depending on point of view.

The "Shrine of Change" allows for gender swaps, but this seems to be a vanilla feature intended for player convenience that troons latched onto. There's no mention of it being used for anything nefarious in-game. ConcernedApe has been repeatedly badgered by the LGBTQPedo crowd to add troon/fag material but so far hasn't done so AFAIK.

Major mod "Stardew Valley Expanded": Moderate.

Nonbinary minor character who moves in as the wizard's apprentice.

Major mod "Ridgeside Village": Heavy

One of the added villagers is a troon and his degenerate lifestyle is repeatedly validated in cutscenes involving children. This is also sprung as a surprise on the player. Lesbian romance between a ninja girl and a fox goddess.

Depozzed mods are available for Ridgeside and SVE.


 
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People who think disco elysium is woke are genuinely dumber than niggercattle.

There's 3 communists in disco elysium. A morbidly obese socialist union boss using the union as a front to funnel drugs, and is trying to demolish an impoverished fishing village for this purpose.

A coward communard deserter that is a literal incel that murders people explicitly because he can't get laid and outrights tells you he murders people because he can't get laid and is jealous of men who get pussy multiple times and this guy is the main antagonist.

A bunch of students that haven't left their appartment in months that think communism will work because if they just wish for the crops to grow faster they will through the power of good vibes.

If you try to side with the communists the voice in your head starts calling you an unwashed retard, tells you that communism is literally the ideology of failure and mocks you by suggesting that maybe you'll break the record for the most people killed just like every other communist did.

I swear to god, this game could have a 3 hour ben shapiro compillation as a mandatory watch partway through and we'd still have morons coming out the woodwork to tell us how woke it is because its clear they haven't fucking played it and are paroting shit they heard elsewhere.

The Bene Gesserit decides who is human and who is an animal using the pain box test. In real life we should use disco elysium, if someone is stupid enough to think disco elysium is woke propaganda we can safely put them in the animal pile.
Thank you. I was really beginning to think I was going mad because if Disco Elysium is ‘high’ woke content then there’s no hope for anything.

Of course there’s communist rumblings because the game lore is in the aftermath of a fucking political revolution.

If a game exists where I can racially insult a black supremacist, THEN spin kick him to the floor, THEN racially insult him again (‘welcome to Revachol’) is still considered ‘heavily woke’, then fuck me, we might as well give up on this thread entirely.

Happy to write this game up and a few others in some detail soon.
 
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TLDR: does the minor presence of gay character, despite not ‘woke’ in the shoehorned/token sense, and especially when otherwise overwhelmed by based content, immediately prevent said game from being any lower than ‘mild’?

There was an argument exactly about this, one or two pages ago, no consensus was reached.
 
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I expected a creepy atmosphere and juggling health/fuel/power while actually having to drive well.

Press A to win gets ripped out from under your feet mid-game, btw. Outer Zone will punish you for driving like you're in GTA 5, but Mid Zone is "Xen-lite with a car-shaped HEV suit".

Unfortunately the devs did such a bad job on optimization that my 3090 sounds like a jet engine after one 'run'. Even hardcore fans of driving games like me will probably want to put this on their list of "wait for patches". A modded .pak file without the freak flags would be lovely too, if such a things is possible.

Stardew Valley: Mild, potentially none depending on point of view.

The "Shrine of Change" allows for gender swaps, but this seems to be a vanilla feature intended for player convenience that troons latched onto. There's no mention of it being used for anything nefarious in-game. ConcernedApe has been repeatedly badgered by the LGBTQPedo crowd to add troon/fag material but so far hasn't done so AFAIK.

Major mod "Stardew Valley Expanded": Moderate.

Nonbinary minor character who moves in as the wizard's apprentice.

Major mod "Ridgeside Village": Heavy

One of the added villagers is a troon and his degenerate lifestyle is repeatedly validated in cutscenes involving children. This is also sprung as a surprise on the player. Lesbian romance between a ninja girl and a fox goddess.

Depozzed mods are available for Ridgeside and SVE.

I didn’t even know this existed, you’re a life saver! The mod is pretty good at really opening up the game, but they od’d on tumblr 2014, and it was getting to be unbearable.
 
Stardew Valley: Mild, potentially none depending on point of view.
Mild:
- same-sex romance or marriage that children can accidentally stumble into (the game is rated G, 6, 7 in various countries), including by changing sex while married
- visually rewards hooking up with every character by graying out 2 last hearts
- Leah's ex is female in her 4-heart cutscene if you're also a female
- Abigail's 8-heart cutscene spells out she loves the player character (pre-romance)
- prophet at a festival can see the player character in a same-sex relationship if it's your highest bachelor[ette] relationship (pre-romance)
- same-sex bachelor[ette]s' schedule changes pre-romance, they stop hanging out with their original counterparts
- Dwarf's gender is "undefined" (doesn't come up in the game IIRC)

I want to write up two games; both of which feature a gay character but sport no homosexual content, they are definitely not ‘woke’ inserts; in one of these games, you can literally go around calling foreigners the game world equivalent of a nigger. And in the other you can have a gay npc killed by his boss arguably because of the fact he is gay.
There was an argument exactly about this, one or two pages ago, no consensus was reached.
Not exactly, @Idiot Doom Spiral's game is likely R-rated or equivalent that deals with the dregs of a realistic society, it can be a None. Gay Tony is None.
 
Mild:
- same-sex romance or marriage that children can accidentally stumble into (the game is rated G, 6, 7 in various countries), including by changing sex while married
- visually rewards hooking up with every character by graying out 2 last hearts
- Leah's ex is female in her 4-heart cutscene if you're also a female
- Abigail's 8-heart cutscene spells out she loves the player character (pre-romance)
- prophet at a festival can see the player character in a same-sex relationship if it's your highest bachelor[ette] relationship (pre-romance)
- same-sex bachelor[ette]s' schedule changes pre-romance, they stop hanging out with their original counterparts
- Dwarf's gender is "undefined" (doesn't come up in the game IIRC)
Thank you, I only romanced one character and didn't come across most of this.

The Dwarf I think is 'undefined' as part of it being damn near an alien.
 
Warframe has been long overdo for a Heavy for a while now. Ever since whispers in the walls where they retconned Albrect Entrati, the most important figure in the warframe universe, and also a married man with wife and kids, into faking his death to go live with his secret gay lover that he loves more than his wife and kids and you literally defeat the final boss of the expansion by reading from a gay poetry book about Albrect missing loid (his gay lover/buttler) to overwhelm it with the emotion of their love.

I've talked about it before.

I really don't know how anyone can rank that as anything less than heavy considering you're literally not allowed to progress unless you validate the love between albrect and loid and that the game treats loid and albrect as true love and not albrect as a villain for ditching his family.
The problem I'm having here is that I have seen multiple people in various places claim the gay poetry thing isn't true or just generally refuse to address the thing you're saying directly. I think you see me asking like a page back.

I just want a second source because it sounds too disgusting to be true, I used to play a lot of Warframe in the past.
 
Not exactly, @Idiot Doom Spiral's game is likely R-rated or equivalent that deals with the dregs of a realistic society, it can be a None. Gay Tony is None.
If the game has anything that could be considered woke (like playing a gay character) it should at least be mild, otherwise you muddy the waters for what is and isn't considered woke.
 
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Some slight confusion here.

I want to write up two games; both of which feature a gay character but sport no homosexual content, they are definitely not ‘woke’ inserts; in one of these games, you can literally go around calling foreigners the game world equivalent of a nigger. And in the other you can have a gay npc killed by his boss arguably because of the fact he is gay.

TLDR: does the minor presence of gay character, despite not ‘woke’ in the shoehorned/token sense, and especially when otherwise overwhelmed by based content, immediately prevent said game from being any lower than ‘mild’?
Disco Elysium is a special case where it's "woke devs, based game". It was made by unironic commies and has a couple gay characters, but you really have to go out of your way to get one of them to say it, the game calls you out for that, you can insult any of the ideologies and characters, and IIRC ZA/UM had a shitshow and collapsed. Mild at best, but the fanbase makes it seem like a medium/heavy for how obsessed they are with making everyone a kweer kommie (oh the irony). Just avoid contact with them and you'll be fine.

I mean, even TVtropes, as woke as they are now, has this in funny:
tvtropes said:
  • Completing the "Homosexual Underground" thought has the game outright go meta on your character. It takes 8 hours to finish thinking about it, which makes it the 4th longest thought to internalize (out of 53 total). You also don't get anything for it, just to underline how enormously silly the whole endeavour was in the first place.

    Maybe you should *stop* obsessing about your own — and other people's — sexuality? Feels like it’s about time to do that. You’ve thought about this for *eight hours*?! Not only should you stop, you should tell Kim you've stopped obsessing about other people's sexuality too. I'm sure he'd appreciate it. Unless you already got him killed because you were obsessing about your sexuality. (There’s no way of telling from within your brain, but for your own sake: please say you didn’t.)
  • Upon completing the thought you do, in fact, get the option to tell Kim you've stopped obsessing over your sexuality. You also get the option to immediately ask him if he is part of the homo-sexual underground, resulting in this interaction:

    You: Are *you* part of the homo-sexual underground?
    Kim: You didn't stop at all, did you? You're just obsessing about *other people's* sexuality now.
    You: Yeah, but...
    Kim: But am I? I'll spare you another *20 hour mind-project* — yes, I am. Now let's get back to work.
 
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Mild:
- same-sex romance or marriage that children can accidentally stumble into (the game is rated G, 6, 7 in various countries), including by changing sex while married
- visually rewards hooking up with every character by graying out 2 last hearts
- Leah's ex is female in her 4-heart cutscene if you're also a female
- Abigail's 8-heart cutscene spells out she loves the player character (pre-romance)
- prophet at a festival can see the player character in a same-sex relationship if it's your highest bachelor[ette] relationship (pre-romance)
- same-sex bachelor[ette]s' schedule changes pre-romance, they stop hanging out with their original counterparts
- Dwarf's gender is "undefined" (doesn't come up in the game IIRC)



Not exactly, @Idiot Doom Spiral's game is likely R-rated or equivalent that deals with the dregs of a realistic society, it can be a None. Gay Tony is None.
SV is definitely not "none". I mentioned it back several pages ago. Mild at the very least.
 
Disco Elysium is a special case where it's "woke devs, based game".
From what I have heard, the game had one or two lead developers who are not only die-hard tankies but also horrible human beings (big surprise), who really pushed for all the commie stuff in the game while the rest of the development team were based Estonians who undermined that every step of the way. Resulting in the game outright calling you fat and smelly if you become a Communist.
 
From what I have heard, the game had one or two lead developers who are not only die-hard tankies but also horrible human beings (big surprise), who really pushed for all the commie stuff in the game while the rest of the development team were based Estonians who undermined that every step of the way. Resulting in the game outright calling you fat and smelly if you become a Communist.
Didn't the leads move to London?
 
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The problem I'm having here is that I have seen multiple people in various places claim the gay poetry thing isn't true or just generally refuse to address the thing you're saying directly. I think you see me asking like a page back.
In what way can you possibly claim the gay poetry isn't true? Its literally part of the damn quest. The final cinematic is literally two statues reprsenting albrect and loid caressing one another's cheek while you read fucking poetry in the background from albrect's personal diary talking about how much he loves loid.
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Meanwhile, loid refers to Albrect as "My Albrect" every single time his name is mentioned.
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Again, even they weren't sodomites, this would be disgusting because Albrect had a wife and children that literally think he's fucking dead and are mourning his death while he's busy fucking the maid in the basement and we're supposed to sympathise with the maid feeling negleted while the actual family is above missing him.

By the end of the quest I wanted to stab loid, tell the family and abandon Albrect. Loid comes accross as a massively entitled piece of shit because he bitches that he didn't get enough attention from albrect while the daughter albrect abandoned to go be with him is literally a floor above him mourning her father's death. And the story expects you to sympathise with him. What kind of psychopath wrote this script?
I just want a second source because it sounds too disgusting to be true, I used to play a lot of Warframe in the past.
I mean just watch a playthrough of the quest on youtube. Yeah it does sound too disgusting to be true because it is too absurd to be true. I legit don't know how people deny it when its so blatant.


Do you have a link of people denying this? I really wanna see what grade of copium they're huffing and what excuses they're using to justify it.
I refuse to play anymore; is it true that also involves Albrecht literally abandoning his grieving family,
This is double sided cope bullshit btw. The game attempts to excuse this with "He abandoned his family because he cared too much for them and didn't want to put them at risk!", implying that he didn't care about Loid enough to want to keep him away from harm's way, but you literally defeat the fucking man in the wall by reading Albrect's poetry about the true love between him and fucking loid.

Either his true love is his actual family, in which case the quest's resolution makes zero sense because then he shouldn't have writen poetry about loid (and if he did it shouldn't have worked), or his true love is loid, in which case everything else that's completely fucked up and wrong with that.

Like even excusing the woke shit, this whole quest line is riddled with plotholes. The game is telling us that true love means lying to your loved ones to keep them safe, meaning that loid isn't actually true love because albrect put him at risk, but also is true love because you read the fucking love poem between them to defeat wally.

Wally is described as "The great indifference" and is defeated by strong emotions (in this case love), despite somehow the void gaining its strength by manifesting emotions into reality, but whatever who gives a shit at this point.
 
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Unfortunately the devs did such a bad job on optimization that my 3090 sounds like a jet engine after one 'run'.
Seriously? the graphics are firewatch-tier, granted the game world is bigger but if a 3090 can barely handle it those devs should be in jail, I seen better looking unreal asset dumps that are more optimized than this.
 
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Don't put troons in your game. It's not hard, people have managed it for decades. The only game that maybe calls for deliberately offending troons, for accuracy, is a criminal simulator or a police procedural.

The problem is that games with troons tend to go for a "tell, don't show" method. They can't have a troon who doesn't look like a troon. If it looks and talks like a woman that's no good, how are you supposed to know they're transgender? Gotta have that flag somewhere or have them say so. If it looks and talks like a football linebacker, that's not good because it shows them in a negative light.
 
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