King of the hill appreciation thread - Yup.

[Namekian George Floyd]

I just finished all 10 episodes and I think they were pretty good, my only complaints being what people here already mentioned but the recastings didn't bother me all that much. I mean, I care about voice acting a lot but I think people are too hard on people who do a decent job but don't completely fill in the big shoes that were left for them. I also don't really like the use of buzzwords, they're just too on the nose and really don't feel natural in a show like King of the Hill which has previously always been subtle with it's messaging. As for positives, I like adult Bobby more than kid Bobby, I like how everyone is still developing and growing and I like how pretty much every member of the cast gets some focus and a fair amount of screen time. Also, anybody else find it weird they added that new black character who is voiced by Keith David but he only appeared like 3 times? I actually wanted more of him specifically because it's Keith fucking David.

 

[cactus]

Is it Chane or Chang? Because I swear it was Chang. How is it spelled in the new season on the restaurant?

 

[ForgedBlades]

Is it Chane or Chang? Because I swear it was Chang. How is it spelled in the new season on the restaurant?

Chane

 

[Tablet County]

I don't care that Andrew Tate is a massive retard and a rapist. It's still fucking cringe to put an actual literal virgin vs Chad meme and use terms like "beta soycuck" unironically in King Of The Hill of all things.

You think that's the show's fault? It's not. People are just like that now.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

I don't know if I'd say Peggy or Dale (maybe Dale) are all that flanderized yet. Peggy came off about as much of a cunt as she was during the later seasons, and maybe Dale could've been weird on his own without conspiratarding as much, but otherwise he's about as Dale as could be.

Completely disagree about Dale not being all that flanderized. All he talks about now is conspiracies. In the original show Dale could have conversations about non conspiracy related topics and frequently did. It was a part of his personality but not his entire personality. In the revival it's ALL his personality and all he ever talks about. He literally injects Bill with some MK ultra serum he got from the internet while he's spying on Hank and Peggy. It's like someone with a passing interest in the show read cliff notes on who Dale was and just entirely honed in on the conspiracy stuff.

 

[TV's Adam West]

Completely disagree about Dale not being all that flanderized. All he talks about now is conspiracies. In the original show Dale could have conversations about non conspiracy related topics and frequently did. It was a part of his personality but not his entire personality. In the revival it's ALL his personality and all he ever talks about. He literally injects Bill with some MK ultra serum he got from the internet while he's spying on Hank and Peggy. It's like someone with a passing interest in the show read cliff notes on who Dale was and just entirely honed in on the conspiracy stuff.

I mean, I chalk it up to Dale doubling and tripling down on his conspiracy bullshit after being validated. You absolutely know Dale was spouting that COVID escaped a lab and was absolutely happy to be proven right. And being a mayor he's now a "political Target" now.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

You absolutely know Dale was spouting that COVID escaped a lab and was absolutely happy to be proven right. And being a mayor he's now a "political Target" now.

Oh for sure he would it's just Dale talked about other things then that in the original. I guess you could argue he's gone deeper down into the conspiracy rabbit hole but that's really just cope for bad writing. The really off putting voice acting that sounds like if Dale got brain damage is far more of an issue imo.

 

[BibiLivesMatter]

I watched all of the new season, and for the most part it was better than I expected and did get some laughs out of me, compared to other animations that make a return years later. However, like others said the first episode seems to be the worst episode for me this season. It didn't feel like it had the same cohesion the rest of the other episodes had one after another. It felt like it was something mandated by corporate to get all the cliche "oh look how the world has changed since the last season of this show!" I also thought it was weird too that Hank knew about being cancelled but didn't know any of the other stuff brought up in the first episode. Like I get he was in Saudi Arabia for some time, but in a later episode he talks about the only two channels they had there was Fox and CNN. Which be the biggest two places to hear about all these changes in America in past decade while he was away.

Overall, I don't think it's as bad as others shows when they return years later, but I don't think it was amazing yet either. Good enough though to make me interested in what season 2 will hold.

 

[LordofCringe7206 Vol. 2]

To be fair, we all know a person who became like that.

This is one of the reasons why doing a revival was a bad idea. As I said before in this thread, the original series was about capturing a specific time and place. While also capturing the types of people who would be involved. Times have changed a lot and we have witnessed what archetypes evolved into in real life as the times changed. Things that were funny and enjoyable twenty plus years ago aren't necessarily anymore.

It reminds me of when they were bringing The X-Files back their revival. Someone online made a good article pointing out how different the world of conspiracy was in the 90s vs how it was in a post-9/11 world. And a lot of it didn't necessarily stem from conspiracies themselves but the attitudes and overall well-being of the public. The X-Files worked for its era, the culture that had changed drastically in the time post-the original series ending made for a environment that the new series wouldn't do well in.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

It reminds me of when they were bringing The X-Files back their revival. Someone online made a good article pointing out how different the world of conspiracy was in the 90s vs how it was in a post-9/11 world. And a lot of it didn't necessarily stem from conspiracies themselves but the attitudes and overall well-being of the public. The X-Files worked for its era, the culture that had changed drastically in the time post-the original series ending made for a environment that the new series wouldn't do well in.

IICR, the conspiracy guy was inspired by Alex Jones and he wasn't seen in a negative way. This wouldn't happen today. He'd be basically Satan. Same for Dale. People like him are seen not just as "silly" but plain evil: anti masks, anti vaccine, etc. I'm sure they're making a big effort to keep his character still likeable and not destroy him as modern TV has destroyed so many good characters that are today "problematic". There must be a few writers who would either punish him or humiliate him for being like this.

 

[BallsGuevara]

I've watched the first couple of episodes. It doesn't hit the same as the original by any means but it was better than I expected by a longshot. Then again my expectations were so low anything more than an absolute dog turd would seem okay.

 

[Ainchiemi]

IICR, the conspiracy guy was inspired by Alex Jones and he wasn't seen in a negative way. This wouldn't happen today. He'd be basically Satan. Same for Dale. People like him are seen not just as "silly" but plain evil: anti masks, anti vaccine, etc. I'm sure they're making a big effort to keep his character still likeable and not destroy him as modern TV has destroyed so many good characters that are today "problematic". There must be a few writers who would either punish him or humiliate him for being like this.

Nothing wrong in any way being anti-mask and anti-vaccine now and back then.

 

[Niggerphobe]

in the next season I hope dale goes to the bayside mall and we get another alien episode

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

There are so many things wrong with the continuity of this time jump.

To be fair, the continuity of the original series was all over the place. Peggy's Mom and the rest of her family for example.

 

[AbduluCthuluZulu]

Reality is that Hollywood has a very narrow view of ethnicity:

A Nigerian can play a Ethiopian because both are black.
A Japanese can play a Chinese because both are Asian.
A Saudi can play a Lebanese because both are Arab.
A Mexican can play an Argentinian because both are Latinos.
A German can play a Spaniard because both are white.

Ask any of these people if they would like to be mistaken for the other and they might punch you in the face.

I still remember when Disney casted an asian woman in The Last Jedi in hopes of appealing to their chinese market, only to learn the hard way that Vietnamese people like her don't get along with Chinese people, and had to backpedal hard on her character in the next movie.

As for the show, I think its biggest issue is that KOTH was built from the ground up for full TV season cycles, not the half-seasons that streaming services insist on. That's my best explanation as to why everything felt so rushed.

 

[lilmayo420]

I had to cut it off after the first like 10 minutes of the first episode. The "updated" art style reminds me of body horror. The amount of liberal boomer shit in it was laid on super heavily and pissed me off. Maybe it's just my tism but I am deeply saddened by this relaunch. I was hoping it'd be more like the Futurama reboot and actually somewhat decent.

 

[frozen_runner]

in the next season I hope dale goes to the bayside mall and we get another alien episode

They're going to have to recast him too, unfortunately, RIP.

I would honestly rather he be disappeared by pocket sand-resistant G men.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I still remember when Disney casted an asian woman in The Last Jedi in hopes of appealing to their chinese market, only to learn the hard way that Vietnamese people like her don't get along with Chinese people, and had to backpedal hard on her character in the next movie.

As for the show, I think its biggest issue is that KOTH was built from the ground up for full TV season cycles, not the half-seasons that streaming services insist on. That's my best explanation as to why everything felt so rushed.

I grew up around a Taiwanese community who all came to the USA because a major shipping company was in the area. We all loved this joke.

 

[florida_cat_enjoyer]

I had to cut it off after the first like 10 minutes of the first episode. The "updated" art style reminds me of body horror. The amount of liberal boomer shit in it was laid on super heavily and pissed me off. Maybe it's just my tism but I am deeply saddened by this relaunch. I was hoping it'd be more like the Futurama reboot and actually somewhat decent.

The first episode seems like it was just put there to check some boxes of some executive moron. The second and third one also is not that good.

I’ve watched 6 so far and the first one was easily the worst, although they don’t get that much better. Episode 4 so far has been my favorite, which feels more like „original run” KOTH.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Nothing wrong in any way being anti-mask and anti-vaccine now and back then.

Nothing wrong with it. What I mean is that, despite some eccentricities, Dale's a good person who truly cares for the people he considers friends and his family.

But for the majority of modern writers, a character like Dale is bad and even evil by default because he doesn't align with the "science".