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King of the hill appreciation thread - Yup.
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It it just me or do a lot of the background/side characters look really off?
The main cast look ok for the most part but the side characters all have these very detailed, very angular and sharp facial features with lots of wrinkles, moles, pores ect.
It doesn't fit with the overall KOTH artstyle, they look more like Beavis and Butthead characters.
The main cast look ok for the most part but the side characters all have these very detailed, very angular and sharp facial features with lots of wrinkles, moles, pores ect.
It doesn't fit with the overall KOTH artstyle, they look more like Beavis and Butthead characters.
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I'm confused on the timeline of events. How long did Hank and Peggy live in Saudi Arabia? Did Bobby live with them in Saudi Arabia?
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The later seasons look like that too. I haven't noticed much of a change in terms of art direction from the 'newer' seasons except sharper looking backgrounds. Now if you were to look at the first few seasons, everyone looks like mud and it may be how your memory holds the series to be.
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And he's Alex Jones-coded, so shitlibs would have to overly hate him.
I thought this was pretty cute. Theo is not as funny as when he's riffing with a real guest, but Hank was exactly the way you would expect Hank to be on a podcast.
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Yeah, the timeline is completely fucked. I just finished the season, and while the show itself was fine (peaked in the mid-season, trailed off a bit at both ends), it's VERY clear that the writing staff has no idea what the timeline is.
Bobby is 21, which at first I thought was a thirty year-old Bobby lying just to hit on some college girls, but no; Connie and Chane and Joseph are all 21, too.
That would mean this takes place 8 years after the original ended, which might be fine if the new season was set in the past (2008 if we assume the show "started" in 1997 and ended in 2000, + up to maybe five or six years), but it's established in-universe that Covid happened and then Dale was mayor and then his term ended, so it's pretty clear that this season is meant to take place in current times, 2024/2025ish. Which would mean Bobby had to have been born in 2003/2004, and that the original series actually took place roughly between the years 2014-2017, despite there being no cellphones anywhere, nor any indication that KotH was set in anything other than the late 90s/early-mid 2000s.
Hank and Peggy are retired, even though it's only 8 years after the show ended, and they seemed to have been around their late 30s or 40s in the original show (there's probably a canon age but I'm not autistic enough to know it offhand). Hank and Peggy COULD be in their 50s now, maybe even late 50s if you assume they're on the older end, but there's no way they could be in their mid-60s with only 8 years time passing, and if they ARE then that would have meant Bobby was born a la Chrischan, in the tail end of Peggy's potential fertility.
They also seem to have been in Saudi Arabia for awhile. Hank and Peggy didn't know about Dale becoming mayor, so they were gone for Covid, which means a minimum of 4 or 5 years in Saudi Arabia. But IF Bobby is 21, then that means his parents would have moved to Saudi Arabia while Bobby was still a teenager. Did Bobby go with them to Saudi Arabia? He seems to have stayed in Arlen, especially since he already put down roots and opened his restaurant. But that begs the question of, where was he living when Hank and Peg were in Saudi Arabia? Was he staying with friends? Relatives? Was he home alone at the Hill house with the black guy (caretaker?)? And why didn't Bobby call his dad and mention that uncle Dale was the mayor now?
And then Good Hank shows up for the Andrew Tate episode, and everything is thrown out the window. GH is specifically referred to as "a teenager", and he looks/acts like a teenager, but he was born right before the original series ended, so he could only be 8 or 9 years old per the logic of the timeline as presented. Why, then, is GH around 15? If this season was set 15 years after the original series ended (true to the real life chronology) then yeah, I could buy based groyper mgtow GH. But everything in the show, up until that point, was insisting that only 8 years had passed. There's no way Bobby can be 21 and GH 15.
-edit- oh, AND, Connie. I assume they decided to set the show 8 years in the future so they could have a Bobby/Connie romance arc, reasoning that by the time Bobby and Connie were pushing 30, they'd already be married and/or divorced and/or in an interracial cuck polycule like I know some of the writers wanted, ENM Guy I'm looking at you. But there are indications, and by the final episode confirmation, that Bobby and Connie haven't really seen each other since middleschool. So maybe Hank and Peggy moved to Saudi Arabia eight years ago, and brought Bobby along, which is why he lost touch with Connie, who would have still been his next-door neighbour in Arlen since Mihn and Kahn haven't fucking moved. BUT, that still begs the question of why Bobby doesn't seem to have left Arlen at all, and even if he did move, why is he still best buds with Joseph (and slightly not-buds with Chane)? Did Joseph move to Saudi Arabia too? And then just neglect to tell his Hill host family that, oh yeah, his dad was the fucking mayor now?
That would mean this takes place 8 years after the original ended, which might be fine if the new season was set in the past (2008 if we assume the show "started" in 1997 and ended in 2000, + up to maybe five or six years), but it's established in-universe that Covid happened and then Dale was mayor and then his term ended, so it's pretty clear that this season is meant to take place in current times, 2024/2025ish. Which would mean Bobby had to have been born in 2003/2004, and that the original series actually took place roughly between the years 2014-2017, despite there being no cellphones anywhere, nor any indication that KotH was set in anything other than the late 90s/early-mid 2000s.
Hank and Peggy are retired, even though it's only 8 years after the show ended, and they seemed to have been around their late 30s or 40s in the original show (there's probably a canon age but I'm not autistic enough to know it offhand). Hank and Peggy COULD be in their 50s now, maybe even late 50s if you assume they're on the older end, but there's no way they could be in their mid-60s with only 8 years time passing, and if they ARE then that would have meant Bobby was born a la Chrischan, in the tail end of Peggy's potential fertility.
They also seem to have been in Saudi Arabia for awhile. Hank and Peggy didn't know about Dale becoming mayor, so they were gone for Covid, which means a minimum of 4 or 5 years in Saudi Arabia. But IF Bobby is 21, then that means his parents would have moved to Saudi Arabia while Bobby was still a teenager. Did Bobby go with them to Saudi Arabia? He seems to have stayed in Arlen, especially since he already put down roots and opened his restaurant. But that begs the question of, where was he living when Hank and Peg were in Saudi Arabia? Was he staying with friends? Relatives? Was he home alone at the Hill house with the black guy (caretaker?)? And why didn't Bobby call his dad and mention that uncle Dale was the mayor now?
And then Good Hank shows up for the Andrew Tate episode, and everything is thrown out the window. GH is specifically referred to as "a teenager", and he looks/acts like a teenager, but he was born right before the original series ended, so he could only be 8 or 9 years old per the logic of the timeline as presented. Why, then, is GH around 15? If this season was set 15 years after the original series ended (true to the real life chronology) then yeah, I could buy based groyper mgtow GH. But everything in the show, up until that point, was insisting that only 8 years had passed. There's no way Bobby can be 21 and GH 15.
-edit- oh, AND, Connie. I assume they decided to set the show 8 years in the future so they could have a Bobby/Connie romance arc, reasoning that by the time Bobby and Connie were pushing 30, they'd already be married and/or divorced and/or in an interracial cuck polycule like I know some of the writers wanted, ENM Guy I'm looking at you. But there are indications, and by the final episode confirmation, that Bobby and Connie haven't really seen each other since middleschool. So maybe Hank and Peggy moved to Saudi Arabia eight years ago, and brought Bobby along, which is why he lost touch with Connie, who would have still been his next-door neighbour in Arlen since Mihn and Kahn haven't fucking moved. BUT, that still begs the question of why Bobby doesn't seem to have left Arlen at all, and even if he did move, why is he still best buds with Joseph (and slightly not-buds with Chane)? Did Joseph move to Saudi Arabia too? And then just neglect to tell his Hill host family that, oh yeah, his dad was the fucking mayor now?
I dunno, I hate "nitpicking", but the timeline problems are way more than nitpicks. Nothing makes sense, and it feels like it written by a bunch of different people, each of whom had vastly different visions and levels of understanding of the original series.
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Hank was meant to be early 40s in the original show (writers lied to the execs because they wanted Hank to match their target audience), but he's supposed to be early 50s in the revival.
The fan website has him at April 15th, 1959 because of the episode that reveals he was born in New York the same day Fidel Castro came to Yankee stadium. This would put him at 66 in modern year.
I'm just going to assume the timeline was never meant to map onto reality as it didn't serve the interest of the story telling.
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66 in modern year would be perfect for retirement; 50s not so much, especially when Hank is not the type to take a voluntary early retirement.
I was also willing to assume the timeline was never meant to map to reality, and some degree of float is fine, but KotH doesn't operate on pure cartoon logic like, say, South Park or The Simpsons. We ARE expected to have at least some level of understanding of how the timeline works, even if the exact dates and exact years can vary by half a decade or more, and things like "where was Bobby staying when Hank got his job in Saudi Arabia" and "why did Connie stop interacting with her neighbours" are definitely plot holes.
And the GH thing absolutely broke me, because there's no way he aged twice as fast as everyone else.
Maybe they can write themselves out of some problems ("after graduating junior high, Connie was sent to an elite boarding school for Lao girls, and only recently moved back") but I'm worried it'll be an issue going forward.
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Eh, the timeline thing doesn't bother me since KOTH never consistently acknowledged the passage of time. [Hell, the original show itself in one episode even made fun of how the timeline made no sense if you actually tried thinking about it.]
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Member the episode where Peggy, Mihn, and Dale trade stocks based on what fat lazy idiots like Bill buy?
Well, turns out you can do that irl too.
Well, turns out you can do that irl too.
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taking over their food is an important part of long-term subjugation of enemy cultures
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Whether it’s a good decision for the show as a show, Dales the kind of person that Current Year would have mind raped.
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I watched the new season and at first I thought it wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either. Just inoffensive for the most part with some funny lines. I've decided to go back and re-watch the series and the new season really doesn't hold a candle to the original series at all. Maybe it does for the weaker later seasons. I haven't watched it in a few years and I forgot just how funny the show was. If nothing else, I'm glad it's caused me to start watching it all over again
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GH was born right at the end of season 3, beginning of season 4. Bobby had to drive whats-her-face to the hospital because Cotton was doing whatever and Hank and Peggy were skydiving. I always remember this because the first episode of season 4 where Peggy has a full body cast on and the baby is crying was torture.
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It would be smart for Theo to look into the conspiracies against trump. But he’s still a layer.
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Oh, really? My bad, I could have sworn it was one of the later seasons; at any rate, he was still a baby by the end and couldn't be older than 10 at the absolute most, definitely not a Tate-watching teen only eight years later.
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the wife started watching it , seems okay-ish
the line about what you get when you finish netflix legit made me lol
the line about what you get when you finish netflix legit made me lol
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Don't think much about the timeline and use elastic time like Marvel. Spiderman starts in 1963, but only 15 years have passed since then and he's just 30. Kinda like the Simpsons too.
Same for GH, he's meant to be younger, but sitcoms tend to age their babies to not linger much having one. Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome.
Same for GH, he's meant to be younger, but sitcoms tend to age their babies to not linger much having one. Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome.
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Bobby calls it the axis of flavor in one of the episodes.