King of the hill appreciation thread - Yup.

[millais]

My favorite thing about Dale is he's obviously not Josephs biological dad, but his father none the less. He's arguably a better dad to Joe than Hank is to Bobby. It's the best when he comes to the conclusion that Joseph is actually the result of an Alien impregnation and he rides along with it. I bet Nancy told him the truth already, but the fact he still ignores Redcorn for Dale means that Dale Gribble is somehow the most victorious cuck on tv.

And Joseph fully reciprocates in his filial relationship with Dale as well. Whenever John Redcorn tries to butt in and get an undeserved father-son moment with Joseph, Joseph just sees John Redcorn as this weird family friend who has some inexplicable interest in whatever coming-of-age moment or accomplishment he is going through. Dale might have been biologically cucked, but it is John Redcorn who is being emotionally cucked with regards to the parental relationship with Joseph.

What's odd is that I distinctly remember Boomhauer speaking fluent French and Spanish without the same unusual speech habits he has when speaking English.
Jeffrey Dexter Boomhauer III is indeed a strange and mysterious man.

In the episode where Boomhauer does a kind of Air BnB house-swap with a family in Canada for the summer, he speaks more or less intelligible French with a Quebecoise woman he gets involved with.

There are moments throughout the show where he quotes various Spanish phrases. I can't remember the context, but at one point he says "dos mujeres, un camino", I think in reference to either Hank and Dale driving to Mexico on their shopping trip or someone else making a roadtrip to Mexico.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

Boomhauer can also sing (more or less) unimpeded.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

"dos mujeres, un camino"

I'm glad I took the time to look that up.

 

[millais]

I'm glad I took the time to look that up.

This is the clip where he says it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kY21UzvcPM

 

[Syaoran Li]

Yep, it was "Raise the Steaks", where they tried to shoehorn in that weird, old hippie character named Appleseed. Episodes like this are firm proof that Mike Judge can be based when need be.




Unfortunately they retconned Peggy's family history in Season 9, which really pissed me off. Early episodes showed Peggy's mom very briefly, and essentially portrayed her as just an older version of Peggy or a generic older woman character. She even made a physical appearance at the Hill's house in Season 2 when she visited for Valentine's Day as Bobby's secret admirer. At the time, her character model basically just looked like Peggy but with grayed hair, different glasses, and slightly heavier.

Then for whatever the fuck reason, in Season 9 they completely threw Peggy's mom's backstory in the toilet by making this retarded episode about her mom being a shrill, authoritarian who lives on a ranch in the mountains near Henry Winkler. I remember watching that episode for the first time a while back and just being confused, then I looked it up on IMDB and Wikipedia and found out the writers retconned her mom into this new, unlikable bitch with a new backstory.

I always had this headcanon that Peggy's mom from the earlier seasons is actually her stepmom and her biological mom is the rancher. It could explain why she moved to Texas as a teenager since she wanted to get away from her mother.

You know how Dale uses the alias Rusty Shackleford to get out of stuff? That one episode where Dale discovers that Rusty is alive and Rusty wants his identity back.

That was a great one, and it's also from the weaker seasons near the end. King of the Hill's "jump the shark" seasons had some of the weakest episodes but the episodes that are good are some of the best in the series. "Peggy's Gone To Pots" is a great example with both the Rusty Shackleford plot and Peggy once again falling for an MLM scheme. The finale is a classic as was the birth of Luanne and Lucky's kid.

I even like some of the episodes like "Uh-Oh Canada" or "Strangeness On A Train" despite their reputation among fans, Both have this sort of campy charm and I also kind of like seeing he Canadian family being douchebags and the Americans being welcoming at first, which was rare in media back then and probably would get you cancelled nowadays.

And Joseph fully reciprocates in his filial relationship with Dale as well. Whenever John Redcorn tries to butt in and get an undeserved father-son moment with Joseph, Joseph just sees John Redcorn as this weird family friend who has some inexplicable interest in whatever coming-of-age moment or accomplishment he is going through. Dale might have been biologically cucked, but it is John Redcorn who is being emotionally cucked with regards to the parental relationship with Joseph.

In the episode where Boomhauer does a kind of Air BnB house-swap with a family in Canada for the summer, he speaks more or less intelligible French with a Quebecoise woman he gets involved with.

There are moments throughout the show where he quotes various Spanish phrases. I can't remember the context, but at one point he says "dos mujeres, un camino", I think in reference to either Hank and Dale driving to Mexico on their shopping trip or someone else making a roadtrip to Mexico.

I think it's implied that Boomhauer is well-educated and his family are also fairly intellectual and educated despite their speaking patterns. Hank even referred to his father or grandfather as "Dr. Boomhauer" in one of the Thanksgiving episodes.

Before he got retconned as a Texas Ranger, Boomhauer mentioned that he had an electrical engineering degree and early episodes implied he was an electrician or worked at a power plant and was on Workman's Comp.

Boomhauer can also sing (more or less) unimpeded.

That's probably my favorite episode of the entire series.

 

[The Last Stand]

"dos mujeres, un camino",

"Is this show historically accurate?"

They attempted to make that a spinoff.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Hey remember that episode where Dale became a male as server at a Hooters stand in?

Guess the Simpsons wasn't the only show that got to use the fox crystal ball

 

[MysticMisty]

I loved the episode where Bobby's pet racoon scratched him and he thought he had rabies so in order to avoid the shots he flees into the woods and goes off the deep end. He running around in his underpants acting like a feral animal, eating magic mushrooms and hallucinating. At one point he breaks back into his house to steal food and grabs a roast straight out of the oven with oven mitts and runs away. Then when his idiotic plan to swap Hanks clean non-rabid blood with his own thus curing him and giving him all of Hanks knowledge of propane and propane accessory's fails he climbs a tree and tries to fly away by flapping his arms like a bird before falling to the ground. There's also this great scene when he's hiding out in the woods:

Dale: (speaking into a tape recorder): Survival diary update: I have been drinking dewdrops found on the forest leaves, and I have been eating mushrooms and moss. Mostly mushrooms. My rabies has taken a turn for the worse. I am starting to hallucinate. When I close my eyes, I can see strange characters running around chasing colorful geometric shapes in a dark and infinite limbo. I have stopped closing my eyes. I fear I am going mad!

(Dale's stick house collapses) Survival reminder: need hammer and nails.

(Dale notices that his tape recorder has no batteries) Also batteries for tape recorder.

(Dale throws his tape recorder away and speaks into a pine cone) Also need new tape recorder.

That's my favorite Dale episode for all the reasons you stated. Dale can't be too over the top crazy all the time or else it'd get stale. But they balanced everything perfectly so this episode is amazing.

 

[A Grey Cat]

So watching the episode of return to la grunta and I have to ask..why is it funny when Hank hill gets sexually assaulted by a dolphin but not when homer Simpson has suffered the same fate by a panda? Well for starters am actual story revolves around Duke trying to sexually assault Hank and it's not something that's written off as a joke. Also it's implied somebody stopped Duke before things got too outta hand. Unlike homer who in his own words "smells of panda love." But the biggest difference and advantage is the sun plot with Luann getting sexually harassed too that ultimately ends with Hank being a badass and throwing the guy onto the pool in a sort of taste of your own medicine way that also exposes la grunta for it's faults. The ending of the koth episode is genuinely heartwarming and makes you feel good. The ending of homer vs dignity just makes you feel bitter having watched it especially with the ending.

 

[cactus]

I always had this headcanon that Peggy's mom from the earlier seasons is actually her stepmom and her biological mom is the rancher. It could explain why she moved to Texas as a teenager since she wanted to get away from her mother.

It's been pointed out that they moved to Arlen when Peggy was in high school.

You forget that Peggy's real dad is back at the ranch though. It probably was just a retcon because someone forgot her mother was already shown.

 

[Syaoran Li]

It's been pointed out that they moved to Arlen when Peggy was in high school.

You forget that Peggy's real dad is back at the ranch though. It probably was just a retcon because someone forgot her mother was already shown.

I knew it was meant as a retcon, but I always had the impression that we never see Peggy's dad and Doc Platter seemed more like her grandpa or an elderly uncle. Could be wrong and maybe they did say Doc Platter was her dad and I missed it.

Still not as bad as the retcon with Peggy's brother and his backstory.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I knew it was meant as a retcon, but I always had the impression that we never see Peggy's dad and Doc Platter seemed more like her grandpa or an elderly uncle. Could be wrong and maybe they did say Doc Platter was her dad and I missed it.

Still not as bad as the retcon with Peggy's brother and his backstory.

Yeah, that was a flat out mess. Those last few seasons were borderline zombie Simpsons at times.

 

[Stardust]

"Cotton's Plot" is a great episode, especially if you enjoy Cotton being, well, Cotton.

Seeing Peggy overcome her disability is inspiring, despite Cotton's unorthodox ways. The scene that really hit me was Hank humbling Peggy with, Cotton's doctor said he'd never walk again. Then those glimpses of Cotton caring, because he had been there where Peggy was.

It ticks the right boxes for me.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

So watching the episode of return to la grunta and I have to ask..why is it funny when Hank hill gets sexually assaulted by a dolphin but not when homer Simpson has suffered the same fate by a panda? Well for starters am actual story revolves around Duke trying to sexually assault Hank and it's not something that's written off as a joke. Also it's implied somebody stopped Duke before things got too outta hand. Unlike homer who in his own words "smells of panda love." But the biggest difference and advantage is the sun plot with Luann getting sexually harassed too that ultimately ends with Hank being a badass and throwing the guy onto the pool in a sort of taste of your own medicine way that also exposes la grunta for it's faults. The ending of the koth episode is genuinely heartwarming and makes you feel good. The ending of homer vs dignity just makes you feel bitter having watched it especially with the ending.

+1, I agree and that would be ironic if Mr. Burns and/or Smithers got a taste of that smells of panda love or having the panda being beaten by Homer.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

I like the episode where he finds out his dad is gay and he thinks he's coming out as an FBI agent instead.

One thing I like about that episode is that it's one of the repeated cases where we see that while Hank might be a conservative who generally votes Republican, he's not just a Hollywood stereotype of one. Yes, at a few points Hank does seem uncomfortable at some of the things he sees, but Hank gets uncomfortable at a lot of things in life. But when it actually comes down to it, what makes him most embarrassed is watching his friends react so childishly to the gay people.

You get something similar to this as early as the first season, with Khan - Hank may be a little derpy when it comes to not understanding where Khan is actually from, and yeah, he buys into Dale's claim that Khan eats dogs, but at the end of the episode he offers an olive branch to Khan; he never really had anything against him to begin with, and their sour relationship over the seasons is entirely on Khan. He's indifferent to Minh, depending on how she's acting that episode... sometimes she's as bad as Khan, other times much more personable. And he seems to genuinely like Connie. It would have been so easy to make him a racist stereotype

 

[MysticMisty]

It probably was just a retcon because someone forgot her mother was already shown.

I think Mike Judge was less involved at this point and that's why they fucked with the continuity. Same thing with why Peggy's brother was suddenly a convict and not working on a gulf oil rig as well.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

A couple of people mentioned Dog Dale Afternoon. I caught the ending of that one as a kid and it scared the shit out of me, specifically the moment when Hank leaps in front of Dale and takes a bullet. It freaked me out so much I ran out of the room before I found out that Hank was okay.

It seems silly now, but I was a bit of a pussy as a kid so seeing the main character of a cartoon get shot shook me. I stayed away from the show for a long time after that out of fear that I'd see that scene again (that and I didn't "get" the humor when I was a kid).

 

[A Grey Cat]

The booby hatch? Wait the gentleman's club or the mental hospital?

 

[Ruin]

'Boomhaur you were held for the mandatory 24 hours and are free to go, Dale you were never formally admitted and are also free to go but your doctor thinks you should keep taking these."

I think Mike Judge was less involved at this point and that's why they fucked with the continuity. Same thing with why Peggy's brother was suddenly a convict and not working on a gulf oil rig as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Hoyt Platter never makes an appearance prior to that episode correct? You could make the argument Peggy was lying about the oil rig thing all along for the show's entire run.

 

[Michael Jacks0n]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Hoyt Platter never makes an appearance prior to that episode correct? You could make the argument Peggy was lying about the oil rig thing all along for the show's entire run.

Yeah, plus what bothered me about that was how in earlier episodes they mentioned he was Peggy's twin brother, but when they introduced the character, he looked nothing like her in the slightest bit, and ended up resembling some kinda half ass Johnny Cash...almost like Strickland Propane's Joe Jack character. Maybe even Quentin Tarantino? Either way, totally different noses and eyebrows.

By the way, here's a side by side comparison of Peggy's two moms: the original, and the retconned: