Lolcow KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

[CerealKilla420]

That's my take on it anyway, to him it's slow enough that it's not outright like killing himself but it has the same end effect.

I am guessing that he chose Booze and Drugs out of rebellion because he was always told they where bad and pose a risk to him more than others because of his various other problems, and he's said nha fuck that and started doing it to be his own man and now he's turned it into a problem that's making his pre-existing issues worse.

Yea, Boredom, Depression and Alcoholism are a dangerous mix add in social isolation to that and you've got a ticking time bomb of metal health and substance abuse issues.

A lot of the more successful drug and alcohol treatment programs start off by trying to help you find a displacement activity you can delve into rather than drinking or using drugs, but Cobes doesn't seem to have a interest outside of drinking and music his wands are at best a cash grab but at one time he had a genuine interested in making them so I do think there might be a creative opening there for him but I cant tell if he stopped doing them because he was drunk all the time or lost interest in them after a point outside of his own personal use, sometimes you just need a creative hobby as a hobby not something you do to make money from.

I'm sorta tempted to send him a few books on the introduction to certain crafts he can do just to see if that piques his interest in some way.

I would agree but honestly (and I'm not trying to be mean here) can Cobra even really read? I mean he's really disabled - maybe if he started taking ADHD meds again but I have my doubts that he would be able to actually read more than like a page at a time tops before getting frustrated and going back to drinking.

Honestly I think the only thing keeping Cobes alive at this point is the hope that he will one day get some of age non-related, alive, cisgendered - pussy.

Yea Cobes has attracted a lot of Alogs rather quickly who are taking a perverse glee in moving him down the easy path towards self destruction, I think a lot of them see themselves in him and use him as the whipping boy for there own failings rather than addressing there own issues, I'm not saying Josh is a poor little saint who's done nothing wrong or stupid ever but he's been egged on when it comes to his own self destruction.

Very well said. I think a lot of them are failed normies who see more of themselves in Cobra than they would like to admit.

 

[BallBuster]

I find it interesting he knows drinking will kill him but won’t stop.

I’ve always wonderd how delusional he is. He plays a ‘cool’ character for us but does he believe that shit? He must know his life is shit. I think he is a schizophrenic but even then he must have moments of clarity — or at least I hope so.

That or its like those shitty movies where a mother smothers her baby and loses her mind, still carrying a corpse acting like it’s still alive while talking to herself.

I’d pay money to hear tapes of him talking to a shrink

I don’t. He knows what he is doing. He’s doing what his idol tried to do for decades.

Spoiler: Suicide Solution

Wine is fine
But whiskey's quicker
Suicide is slow with liquor
Take a bottle drown your sorrows
Then it floods away tomorrows
Away tomorrows
Evil thoughts and evil doings
Cold, alone you hang in ruins
Thought that you'd escape the reaper
You can't escape the master keeper
'Cause you feel life's unreal
And you're living a lie
Such a shame who's to blame
And you're wondering why
Then you ask from your cask
"Is there life after birth"?
What you sow can mean hell on this earth
Hell on this earth
Now you live inside a bottle
The reaper's traveling at full throttle
It's catching you but you don't see
The reaper is you and the reaper is me
Breaking laws,
Knocking doors
But there's no one at home
Make your bed,
Rest your head
But you lie there and moan
Where to hide,
Suicide is the only way out
Don't you know what it's really about
Oh, now people! You really know where it's at! You gotta! Bodge!
Get the flaps out! Shoot-shoot-shoo-shoo! You gotta! Get the flaps out!
Wine is fine
But whiskey's quicker
Suicide is slow with liquor
Take a bottle drown your sorrows
Then it floods away tomarrows
Wine is fine
But whiskey's quicker
Suicide is slow with liquor
Take a bottle drown your sorrows
Then it floods away tomorrow.

 

[Marci96]

I find it interesting he knows drinking will kill him but won’t stop.

I’ve always wonderd how delusional he is. He plays a ‘cool’ character for us but does he believe that shit? He must know his life is shit. I think he is a schizophrenic but even then he must have moments of clarity — or at least I hope so.

That or its like those shitty movies where a mother smothers her baby and loses her mind, still carrying a corpse acting like it’s still alive while talking to herself.

I’d pay money to hear tapes of him talking to a shrink

He definitely knows his life is shit. When he gets fucking smashed drunk he gives us some real talk. Just like when he got drunk in his birthday, that was some therapy shit. Saying his life is worthless and he would gladly die of alcoholism. There's no going back to the old 2017 cooking video days

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

I would agree but honestly (and I'm not trying to be mean here) can Cobra even really read? I mean he's really disabled - maybe if he started taking ADHD meds again but I have my doubts that he would be able to actually read more than like a page at a time tops before getting frustrated and going back to drinking.

Thats a good point, he's not illiterate but he's not exactly fully literate either, I'd hesitate to call him functionally illiterate as those sort of people tend not to use computers either but I think he'd likely struggle with something that didn't grab him right away or used words he's not used to regularly.

Honestly I think the only thing keeping Cobes alive at this point is the hope that he will one day get some of age non-related, alive, cisgendered - pussy.

I think he's even mostly given up on that, he holds out a ember of hope but now I think he'll just settle for anyone who'll put up with him and that's a very small pool of people to begin with and it's getting smaller each birthday and each night he kills himself by inches.

 

[CerealKilla420]

Thats a good point, he's not illiterate but he's not exactly fully literate either, I'd hesitate to call him functionally illiterate as those sort of people tend not to use computers either but I think he'd likely struggle with something that didn't grab him right away or used words he's not used to regularly.

Yeah I mean he technically CAN read but it would require from him a tremendous amount of focus and effort. He CAN use a computer, but I think he would really struggle if he were not using a Mac. Honestly I blame Apple and the iPhone for most of the lolcow stuff - if this were 2002 Cobra probably would not have a snowball's chance in hell of getting online successfully. Because modern Mac OS (I'm thinking like OSX onwards so like 2008-present) was designed to be used by completely retarded boomers and their parents (who are all dead now), we get to enjoy all of Cobra's music and tee shirt creations. If it were any more difficult to use we wouldn't even know about Josh.

For me that was always one of the things about Chris that was so interesting... He's functionally regarded, but he can still use a computer at a pretty high level - like he was using IRC, Mumble, advanced features on the PS3, and he somehow managed to finish his CAD associates degree (even by rural CC gentleman's C standards that's impressive for someone as disabled as Chris Chan (just look at his fucking spanish homework). But Cobra is not Chris and I'm guessing that anything more complicated than Garage Band and typing "of age goth girl green eyes big tits" is going to just go right over his head.

But yeah... I'm pretty sure Cobra has not read a book since that occult book, which I'm pretty sure he just skimmed, and Harry Potter. There's no way 2022 Cobra is going to read a book.

I think he's even mostly given up on that, he holds out a ember of hope but now I think he'll just settle for anyone who'll put up with him and that's a very small pool of people to begin with and it's getting smaller each birthday and each night he kills himself by inches.

I think that's pretty much the only cope he has left, but you are right I think deep down he knows that it'll never happen. Honestly I feel like I haven't even heard him say the phrase "dry spell" in awhile now.



Unrelated but I wanted to bring it up ITT -I read that long post Clint made in the cobra subreddit for the first time a few days ago and I'm so split with how I feel about Clint.

Clint is for sure, not 100% there himself and it's obvious to me that outside of having ADHD that Clint is also a self absorbed narcissist and honestly fucking sucks as a person. That said, when I really try to imagine having an adult son like Cobra that is so resistant to change and does not listen or learn I can sympathize with his decision to basically shutter him away in the ghetto shit shack estates off on his own. Clint has built a family for himself outside of Cobes and it has to be difficult having a child like Cobra.

Despite all that, I can't help but feel like Clint still failed his son somehow during his upbringing. I completely understand how that happens and I actually don't blame clint for it - But I lose respect for Clint because he just flat out refuses to accept responsibility for any of it and goes even further by painting himself as the victim which is just pathetic and inexcusable.

He will never care because he is simply incapable, and when Cobra dies he'll cry crocodile tears at his son's funeral but really he will be relieved - relieved that he no longer has to deal with his son, relieved that he no longer has to deal with the trolls, and most important to him, relieved that the personal embarrassment he experiences by association with Cobra will have finally come to an end.

That's where it really gets me toobs, it's not his 'failings as a parent' (honestly he did a better job than most people would given the circumstances and deserves credit for this), it's his selfish and self serving attitude and his weasel-like behavior. Clint is incapable of loving anyone other than himself, he will never learn his lesson, and he will never change. To me, that's the real tragedy of King Cobra JFS youtube, it's just knowing how many parents out there are just like Clint, and how so few of them will ever even know that there's something wrong with them.

 

[crayolasword]

Happy Page 420 of the thread…YYYESSSSS

 

[The REAL MagnaRyuu]

Let’s say you wake up one morning and were freaky Friday body swapped with cobra and there was no hope to get to your old body and switch back. What would you do? Just off yourself? Continue business as usual living cobra life? Make the best of it? Try to turn things around?

 

[CerealKilla420]

Let’s say you wake up one morning and were freaky Friday body swapped with cobra and there was no hope to get to your old body and switch back. What would you do? Just off yourself? Continue business as usual living cobra life? Make the best of it? Try to turn things around?

I would just start streaming video games. I'd no life as many video games as I could on stream and live the dream tbh.

Edit: I would also go to a Doctor and get a prescription for one of everything (Cobra has medicaid so everything would be free/no copay) and get trolls to pay for new teeth.

 

[Big Nasty]

CLINT SUCKS!

 

[Bixby Snyder]

Unrelated but I wanted to bring it up ITT -I read that long post Clint made in the cobra subreddit for the first time a few days ago and I'm so split with how I feel about Clint.

Clint is for sure, not 100% there himself and it's obvious to me that outside of having ADHD that Clint is also a self absorbed narcissist and honestly fucking sucks as a person. That said, when I really try to imagine having an adult son like Cobra that is so resistant to change and does not listen or learn I can sympathize with his decision to basically shutter him away in the ghetto shit shack estates off on his own. Clint has built a family for himself outside of Cobes and it has to be difficult having a child like Cobra.

Despite all that, I can't help but feel like Clint still failed his son somehow during his upbringing. I completely understand how that happens and I actually don't blame clint for it - But I lose respect for Clint because he just flat out refuses to accept responsibility for any of it and goes even further by painting himself as the victim which is just pathetic and inexcusable.

He will never care because he is simply incapable, and when Cobra dies he'll cry crocodile tears at his son's funeral but really he will be relieved - relieved that he no longer has to deal with his son, relieved that he no longer has to deal with the trolls, and most important to him, relieved that the personal embarrassment he experiences by association with Cobra will have finally come to an end.

That's where it really gets me toobs, it's not his 'failings as a parent' (honestly he did a better job than most people would given the circumstances and deserves credit for this), it's his selfish and self serving attitude and his weasel-like behavior. Clint is incapable of loving anyone other than himself, he will never learn his lesson, and he will never change. To me, that's the real tragedy of King Cobra JFS youtube, it's just knowing how many parents out there are just like Clint, and how so few of them will ever even know that there's something wrong with them.

Clint tried being ‘cool’ and ‘understanding’ with Josh but failed in the end. Pages back I pointed out he has options that could put Cobes back on track, but he won’t take them because he wants Josh to have independence. He doesn’t want to destroy the little relationship he has with him in order to save his life. That or get involved in that trainwreck.

A long time ago, I tried to get someone help through the system. Dude was like Josh, mentally ill and disabled on the path of a quick preventable death. I filed reports and nothing happened. Literally next day the guy had a serious break and nearly drank himself into a coma. I called the social services and the guy told me they really don’t have power. This guy’s family could step-in but they wouldn’t, and the dude would refuse help.

Cobes is the exact same situation. Sure, Clint tried his best but we see he is cutting him off from his normal family. He is not exercising options to force help on him — family is pretty much only ones who can do this. It’s a high bar but easily provable.

Sad thing is Clint knows the sad fucked up existence his son lives. You know he has seen the streams and I bet he stopped watching them a while ago too.

Clint will genuinely feel sad when gets call Cobes dies. He will also feel relieved.

The question is how does Cobes die?

Seizure?

Choking On Vomit?

Old Age?!

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

The question is how does Cobes die?

Seizure?

Choking On Vomit?

Old Age?!

Honestly since seeing that video of him from the other day I am going to say 1 and 2 at the same time, He's going to get into the pit one day when he does have cash to splurge he's going buy more than usual amount of booze and drink himself into a stupor have a Seizure, puke and choke to death.

There is a likelihood that this will happen live on stream and Clint will be informed as it's happening people will be cheering it on and he'll be frantically calling an ambulance for his son and driving like a madman to get to him (for all that's said about Clint he does care for Josh), and he will be either dead on arrival or if he does survive he'll be significantly worse than his is now in terms of being able to function.

I don't want that for Cobes, Alcoholism is a nasty way to go out especially when what he needs is a intervention not just for his alcoholism but for his other problems, I think if he had one friend a genuine friend who'd drag him out to do stuff that wasn't drinking or drugs we'd see an improvement in him.

 

[Tropico 2: Port Snort]

I saw this today and had to invoke the dark lord. Doritos...skulls...hahahaha yessss

 

[The Southwest Strangla]

he's looking rough today

 

[crying and shidding]

Happy Page 420 of the thread…YYYESSSSS

haha yeessss 420. kinda hope somebody sends him some more d8, he loves that shit.

 

[The Southwest Strangla]

 

[TomBradysVagina]

I’ve always wonderd how delusional he is. He plays a ‘cool’ character for us but does he believe that shit? He must know his life is shit. I think he is a schizophrenic but even then he must have moments of clarity — or at least I hope so.

He knows. Theres a recorded voice chat from Courtney's discord where he starts crying and saying how much of a loeser he is. He goes on saying he'll never get a girl because he's gross and weird. So, he definitely knows whats up. He let's it slip here and there on stream that he's aware of how shitty his life is.

Although, I think he's so delusional and drunk so often that he can get into a frame of mind where he truly thinks he's the shit.

Hes sychzo.

 

[TurdFondler]

I don't think he's schizo, I think he wants to see himself as a goth bad boy, just like everyone wants to see themselves as a better version of themselves. It's just, the gap between his goals and his current state is so vast.

 

[The Southwest Strangla]

lol

 

[Coom Cruiser]

Josh always takes the easier path. Like that time he got kicked out of Frosty's and immediately said "leave me alone I'm autistic". It's easier to lie to himself and double down. But as his world keeps getting shittier and his health gets worse reality is going to slam into his skull harder than when he fell behind his couch.

As much as Josh says "fuck suicide", I suspect it's because the thoughts are there. I might be talking complete shit but I wouldn't be surprised if Josh got shitfaced off stream and actually offed himself.

If not, one of the seizures will.

 

[Protect The Egg Chamber]

Josh always takes the easier path. Like that time he got kicked out of Frosty's and immediately said "leave me alone I'm autistic". It's easier to lie to himself and double down. But as his world keeps getting shittier and his health gets worse reality is going to slam into his skull harder than when he fell behind his couch.

As much as Josh says "fuck suicide", I suspect it's because the thoughts are there. I might be talking complete shit but I wouldn't be surprised if Josh got shitfaced off stream and actually offed himself.

If not, one of the seizures will.

He may try to kill himself if he doesn't pass out drunk first.