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Lolcow KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.
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Nigga looking like a bloated chipmunk.
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Josh once punched him out because he confiscated his cigarettes. Josh got belligerently drunk and on the car ride over to Christmas dinner began threatening him and acting aggressive and uncontrollable to the point he had to call the cops on his own son. Josh makes concessions after huge blowout fights and decides “yeah my dad and I decided it’s best I don’t have a debit card” clint used to have huge arguments with cobra to get him to brush his teeth and one of the reasons Josh was so excited to move out is because he couldn’t be nagged to take showers or brush his teeth.
Dealing with Josh is like beating your head on a brick wall. This is a guy that claims that counselors are “overpaid drug dealers” and that he’s “too intelligent for therapy”. The type of person who knows he’s getting picked up for his own birthday dinner in an hour and decides it’s a good idea to polish off a 26 oz bottle of vodka.
I agree your responsibilities don’t magically fade away but at a certain point you have to accept you can’t help somebody who doesn’t want it. At a certain point when somebody makes it abundantly clear they don’t want help and actively becomes furious at your attempts to help OR double down on the behavior (for example Courtney advised him huffing duster is really harmful and dangerous and she was worried about him. What’d he do about a friend showing concern? he snatched up the can and took a rip right then and there and laughed about it) you just give the help they’re willing to accept and stop troubling yourself with the inevitable tantrums and blowups if you try to help in the ways they won’t accept
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Well, I'd start by not making fun of my son on a reddit page where they plot your loss of income, arrest, and death. Clint gets too much of a pass around these parts. Josh makes a mistake Clint says he shouldn't be held accountable because he's mentally 13. He doesn't know better. But when Clint doesn't feel like taking care of him, suddenly he's an adult and can do what he wants. It's the constant tug and release of control method Clint has that's glaringly ineffective. By all means let Clint slide. To me he's clearly a shitty father.
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This is really what pisses me off about Clint, I can brush most everything else off with him being only mildly less retarded than Josh but there's no way he isn't aware of what he's doing when it comes to this. I hate Clint more than I love Ozzy.
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I agree, I think people have no idea how hard it can be with a kid like that. Cobes is not so fucked he loses his rights, so he has legal rights and you cannot force much on him.
When he was directly under clints control, he could curtail MOST of the shit. But as Cobes got older, he has far less control. People saying just hit him, yeah, well done, you will be up on charges and people will just see a father smacking his disabled son about. He will be enjoying prison in no time, or at least having even less control over Cobes.
Its a very difficult situation for all involved, and I suspect a bit of letting go and hoping he doesnt kill himself is in play. Not sure what else he can legally do, and cobes is such a mess and a public figure of sorts he cannot get away with underhanded shit.
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You make a fair point, and I'm sure my contempt for Clint is bleeding through somewhat, And I'm not sure how the law works in the US when it comes to cobes competency, before his duster/alcohol abuse he was able to somewhat hold a job and at least operate on the level of a 16 year old living on his own, as opposed to his current state, which made the idea of him being able to be independant seem a lot more plausible.
I know it's easy to throw shade on Clint's parenting style, but it really does feel like he just was not equip to deal with a retarded son, as he just tried the usual boomer tactics for how to deal with a problem child. Take away computer, get into screaming matches, try and punish him. As I said, I'm ignorant of how the law works, but if it's at all possible, I feel like Clint should be pushing to have Josh placed in some sort of assisted living or a proper tard rangler, on paper blunting the worst of the destructive behavior is fairly simple. Limit acess to alcohol/drugs, and someone's nearby to shut down his worst ideas before he starts, chugging rotten lard or whatever it is this week.
I know people are going to say cobes will throw endless shit fits and be ungovernable, but the boy has also shown willingness to go dog with his belly up mode fairly easily under pressure or when he feels shame from an authority figures he knows he's supposed to respect. Usually parroting lines about "how paitent X has been with me" and just repeating things told to him verbatim and pretending it's his opinion. I'll admit we haven't seen much of this behavior recently, and alcohol has absolutely made him worse. I know it might not be possible legally for him to end up in assisted living, but it's absolutely what would be best for him, he'd hate it, but he'd adjust after realizing he didn't have a choice.
At the end of the day I just find Clint to be an annoying self centered grifter, he's all the worst parts of Josh but with a pretense that clearly fools some people in the real world into thinking he's a stand up guy. With Josh you can just laught because he's so absurd absolutely nobody is taking him seriously, he's a real life comedy of errors. It's just hard to believe you could be a loving parent and not be doing everything in your power to help your son as he crumbles in front of a public audience so visibliy. But then again, he probably resents him half as much as the average redditor deep down. Like you spawned this kid, and you're off photoshopping naked pictures of your hank hill ass to subject your community college students to? Just makes him seem like he's completely checked out.
I dunno, not trying to moral fag, I just hope I'd do better if I was put in his situation. Your kids are suppose to come before you, no matter what, I have a hard time when I see parents fucking up their kids by putting themselves first.
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Just realized that the half tooth is going to make a nice timeline indicator for Josh.
A few of my favorites: the shaved head, the floral chair, the Halloween skull hat.
A few of my favorites: the shaved head, the floral chair, the Halloween skull hat.
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Imagine if this was all some sort of fucked up 5d chess move by Clint to get Jorp shipped off to a tard house because josh is basically a shambling, drooling, incoherent mess who'd fit perfectly into a group home.
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Cobies' problem isn't his Aspergers or his low IQ, there are plenty of functional members of society who operate within the bounds of poor communication skills and relatively low IQs, there are people with threads on this website that are more unintelligent than this goober is that function almost independently from their parents and the state. His problem is that he's completely irresponsible with his life and everything in it because his father taught him he never needed to be by bailing him out at the drop of a hat. By never disciplining him because he always pitied him for his aspergers instead of treating him like a human being. Maybe he's a better father with his other kids now, whos to say, but he dead ass shit the bed on his first one and there's not much of a defense there otherwise.
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Clint wasn’t making fun of him on Reddit. And when he visited Reddit it’s clear he had a wild misunderstanding of it. It’s also notable this was many years ago when the community was smaller. He initially went there to tell them to stop bullying his son, people told him all sorts of different stories about how they weren’t the ones trying to bully him and were trying to defend him from the trolls and then he started answering questions. Sure, he should not have done that but it’s a little disingenuous to act like he showed up to do a shitty Reddit ama or act like the sub back then was at all what it is like today
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The funny thing is that Clint DID beat him. Cobes once stated when he acted up with his autism Clint would smack him in the face. I’m far too lazy to find the video but it’s in the old apparentment. Granted this is coming from cobra who is nothing if not an unreliable narrator so take it with a grain of salt
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Again, it’s massive slack you’re giving Clint here. It doesn’t take a genius to realize the subreddit is documenting your son’s every move. Paling around with these people as Josh’s father is regarded and even juvenile. He has a very, “Get a load of this guy.” demeanor when talking about his mentally disabled son. This is not normal behavior and makes Clint look like a dumb shit.
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You try running the most prestigious photography program in all of Northern North Dakota, and see if it doesn’t go your head just a little bit. It’s a powerful position
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Clint definitely wasn't roasting Josh but it seemed to me like he was reveling in the attention a bit to much and as a result began sharing things about Josh's childhood. It makes no sense to me that you would willingly go to a place where you assume all the "trolls" are and then start telling them about how as a kid it was a battle to get Josh to take a shower all the way into his high school years or that you still to this day have to force him to bathe. I mean he even starts sharing stories about Josh obsessing over women, embarrassing stories about him being bullied and tricked by "popular girls" and various other stories.
If you really believe that these people are the ones responsible for all the pain your son faces on a day to day basis why would you ever share that stuff with them? Based off the things Clint wrote I do believe he went there originally with the intention of confronting these people in the hopes they would leave Josh alone and quit documenting his every move but I also believe that at some point his ego took over and he started enjoying the attention and overshared.
I tend to avoid the Clint discussion because it's been talked to death and it always results in some people claiming he is the worst father to ever exist while others claim he is a saint. It goes nowhere and what side of the fence you fall on is gonna be a direct results of what kind of world view you have. It's a pointless discussion but one thing I do agree with is that he never should have went to Reddit, it was just a bizarre move in my eyes.
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Clint did punish him but it only made reinforced his oppositional defiant disorder. He would give him "punishment haircuts" where if he acted out he was forced to cut his hair which he was growing out to look like Ozzy which really pissed Cobes off. He would also take away his access to the internet and his phone to punish him too.
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Clint’s a narcissist plain and simple and enjoyed the attention. Doesn’t change the fact he went there to confront the subreddit initially before he got caught up in the glitz and glamour of internet attention. I also said in my post that he shouldn’t have done that. I think Clint’s intent with all the oversharing was to paint cobra as a sympathetic figure and himself as a “brave and strong dad who had the hardest job in the world (being a parent) but did his best” sappy inspirational feel good movie nonsense while tweaking his nipples at the attention.
I found it! In Rude people suck. I thought there was another instance of him talking about getting smacked across the mouth by Clint if he acted up all autistic like but maybe I’m misremembering this clip. Anyways here’s the specific clip for easy viewing. I find it funny to see you guys lamenting cobra talking points about the problems with kids being they aren’t smacked around enough in regards to cobra. Also shoutout to Jesus Morris who apparently came all the way from china to visit. (Anybody know anymore context about what or who the fuck he’s talking about there?)
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Im not giving his dad credit for the few times he decided to halfway punish him for getting kicked out of job corp when he was 19 which is far too late to instil any sense of discipline in him or correct any behaviours
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Clint has made a lot of mistakes, but when you're facing a challenge as difficult as Cobes as a young, inexperienced father you're probably going to make mistakes. He's a flawed guy, but I don't think he's any more flawed than 80% of the people you might meet, or 80% of the people here. Clint would have been a perfectly ok father to most kids, but he got Josh, and Josh was clearly more than he was equipped to handle. Josh is more than most people are equipped to handle. You need to be an A-grade parent to deal with Josh, but Clint, like most people, is only C-grade. Most people would fail at parenting Josh - of course he made the wrong decisions at times, but most people would fuck up in that situation in one way or another.
Only Clint knows what it's like to deal with a nightmare like Cobes for 30 continuous years. I can't endorse him throwing up his hands and giving up on his obstinate, retarded, sometimes violent, drug-and-booze addicted son, but I can't honestly say that after 3 decades of bashing my head against a brick wall I wouldn't do the same myself.
And frankly neither can any of you.
Only Clint knows what it's like to deal with a nightmare like Cobes for 30 continuous years. I can't endorse him throwing up his hands and giving up on his obstinate, retarded, sometimes violent, drug-and-booze addicted son, but I can't honestly say that after 3 decades of bashing my head against a brick wall I wouldn't do the same myself.
And frankly neither can any of you.