🐍 In the Clock Tower KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

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Clint has confirmed the autopsy report came in and the toxicology report came back negative with no foul play.

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knowing this i imagine his heart was beyond fucked from the energy drink combos. it seems crazy but energy drinks especially if you drink too many can destroy your heart more than you realize. combine that with the stressed state he must have been in due to the food poisoning and or flu he had it was all just too much for his heart to handle. poor dude.. at least he is at peace now.

i pray that clint wont blame himself since it seems there a chance he could have saved cobes if he had gotten there earlier but whos to say.

at least we know the boghag did not poison him. then again who knows that care package could have given him food poisoning i would believe it.


I remember months and months ago getting into an argument with several posters in this very thread about this exact topic. Cobra is one of those guys you'd think was like 5'9" or something but he actually was a big dude. He was sitting down 99% of the time in his videos so you just never saw his true height.
i cant find it but i remember seeing this one picture of cobes standing in a parking lot somewhere that someone took when they saw him and he is shockingly tall. his combination of sitting down most of the time and having generally poor camera skills made him look way smaller than he actually was.
 
knowing this i imagine his heart was beyond fucked from the energy drink combos. it seems crazy but energy drinks especially if you drink too many can destroy your heart more than you realize. combine that with the stressed state he must have been in due to the food poisoning and or flu he had it was all just too much for his heart to handle. poor dude.. at least he is at peace now.

Smoking fucks your heart up too, and Cobes loved to smoke.
 
For all those wondering, what fucked up his heart the most was likely the air duster. Out of all his habits the inhalants were definitely the most destructive. Destroys your brain, quickly weakens your heart, fucks up your liver and kidneys, it can even fuck up your bone marrow. Alcohol certainly didn't help but the duster is what I think made him drop so fast.
 
i cant find it but i remember seeing this one picture of cobes standing in a parking lot somewhere that someone took when they saw him and he is shockingly tall. his combination of sitting down most of the time and having generally poor camera skills made him look way smaller than he actually was.
I think a big part of the Cobra height mystery is the fact that unlike Josh there are a dozens and dozens of photos of Clint standing showing his full height on his Facebook and he clearly is a shorter guy so people including myself just kind of assumed that Josh was too. Genetics and all that.
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For all those wondering, what fucked up his heart the most was likely the air duster. Out of all his habits the inhalants were definitely the most destructive. Destroys your brain, quickly weakens your heart, fucks up your liver and kidneys, it can even fuck up your bone marrow. Alcohol certainly didn't help but the duster is what I think made him drop so fast.
I just put "duster heart issues" into Google and the results were terrifying. This guy was the exact same age as Josh too. Luckily he made a full recovery though.
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For all those wondering, what fucked up his heart the most was likely the air duster. Out of all his habits the inhalants were definitely the most destructive. Destroys your brain, quickly weakens your heart, fucks up your liver and kidneys, it can even fuck up your bone marrow. Alcohol certainly didn't help but the duster is what I think made him drop so fast.
Inshallah it takes rekeita as fast as it took Cobes...but way more painful
 
knowing this i imagine his heart was beyond fucked from the energy drink combos. it seems crazy but energy drinks especially if you drink too many can destroy your heart more than you realize. combine that with the stressed state he must have been in due to the food poisoning and or flu he had it was all just too much for his heart to handle. poor dude.. at least he is at peace now.
I'm sure everyone knows the saying never mix your uppers and downers, those alcoholic energy drink combos definitely played a major factor in his deteriorating health. But honestly he just lived an unhealthy lifestyle, there were a lot of things he did wrong in his diet, still tragic he's gone. Because of Cobes I've started eating a lot healthier now, cutting out sodas, started drinking teas to get that flavor fix, using honey as a sweetener, slowing down on the pork. I need to get a dehydrator now though for making banana chips,
 
For all those wondering, what fucked up his heart the most was likely the air duster. Out of all his habits the inhalants were definitely the most destructive. Destroys your brain, quickly weakens your heart, fucks up your liver and kidneys, it can even fuck up your bone marrow. Alcohol certainly didn't help but the duster is what I think made him drop so fast.
i wonder if cobes was still using duster at all. i think people stopped sending it to him in favor of everclear. either way he damage was done already for sure. there is also the possibility that his heart was a little fucked from being born premature as well. so it might not have the endurance of a normal heart.
 
i wonder if cobes was still using duster at all. i think people stopped sending it to him in favor of everclear. either way he damage was done already for sure. there is also the possibility that his heart was a little fucked from being born premature as well. so it might not have the endurance of a normal heart.
Goddamnit Cyraxx was super premature (like 26 weeks?), but he's still here :(
 
A heart attack in a non obese 34 year old with no heart defects sounds crazy on the surface but once you kind of put it together in your head it starts to make sense.
  • Cobes was a smoker from basically the day he turned 18 and used tobacco in one form or another until his death
  • He loved heavily caffeinated drinks and drank them more then he drank actual water
  • He was a heavy, heavy drinker especially from the second apartment on. By the end he was drunk all day everyday.
  • He never visited the doctor as far as I'm aware and the dentist was the nearest thing to a doctors checkup he had since moving out and Clint had to force him to go to those visits
  • His diet was super fast food heavy filled with high sodium and sugary foods
  • From the second apartment on he got basically zero exercise whatsoever because he stopped riding bike and walking places and just had everything Door dashed (this started around Covid)
I imagine the duster was the thing that basically kicked off what everything else I have listed was building up in his body.
 
A heart attack in a non obese 34 year old with no heart defects sounds crazy on the surface but once you kind of put it together in your head it starts to make sense.
  • Cobes was a smoker from basically the day he turned 18 and used tobacco in one form or another until his death
  • He loved heavily caffeinated drinks and drank them more then he drank actual water
  • He was a heavy, heavy drinker especially from the second apartment on. By the end he was drunk all day everyday.
  • He never visited the doctor as far as I'm aware and the dentist was the nearest thing to a doctors checkup he had since moving out and Clint had to force him to go to those visits
  • His diet was super fast food heavy filled with high sodium and sugary foods
  • From the second apartment on he got basically zero exercise whatsoever because he stopped riding bike and walking places and just had everything Door dashed (this started around Covid)
I imagine the duster was the thing that basically kicked off what everything else I have listed was building up in his body.
I remember watching the Lenin Lime 2022 compilations last year and was shocked at how much more coherent Josh was back then. He was still deep into his alcoholism back then but it wasn’t until the duster use that he started to rapidly decline. I think that duster was what really caused his early death.
 
I think a big part of the Cobra height mystery is the fact that unlike Josh there are a dozens and dozens of photos of Clint standing showing his full height on his Facebook and he clearly is a shorter guy so people including myself just kind of assumed that Josh was too. Genetics and all that.
Maybe he got the tall genes from his mothers side
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A heart attack in a non obese 34 year old with no heart defects sounds crazy on the surface but once you kind of put it together in your head it starts to make sense.
  • Cobes was a smoker from basically the day he turned 18 and used tobacco in one form or another until his death
  • He loved heavily caffeinated drinks and drank them more then he drank actual water
  • He was a heavy, heavy drinker especially from the second apartment on. By the end he was drunk all day everyday.
  • He never visited the doctor as far as I'm aware and the dentist was the nearest thing to a doctors checkup he had since moving out and Clint had to force him to go to those visits
  • His diet was super fast food heavy filled with high sodium and sugary foods
  • From the second apartment on he got basically zero exercise whatsoever because he stopped riding bike and walking places and just had everything Door dashed (this started around Covid)
I imagine the duster was the thing that basically kicked off what everything else I have listed was building up in his body.
This, combined with the serious lack of socialisation, is what killed the boy.
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it - Kiwis, no matter how asocial or how much of a shut-in you are, PLEASE get some in-person socialisation. Isolation and depression kills.
If you don't have any friends, find a hobby that requires attending in person. Play board games, visit elderly people in retirement homes, join a book club. Literally anything that requires you to leave the comfort of your NEET cave and being face to face with another human being. Consider how shitty you likely felt during Corona lockdowns, then multiply this by however many years Cobes ceased leaving his home or had visitors over (and by visitors I mean people who aren't Floorlord, mooching off of Josh' hospitality).
You don't have to be a social butterfly with 50+ friends, you don't have to invite guests over for grand banquet meals every saturday. Just go be social at least once a week, 30 minutes min.
 
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Just go be social at least once a week, 30 minutes max.
this is one of my biggest struggles..i am really really shy, like to the point that talking to others in person is damn near painful! thankfully i dont live alone, or i think it would be a bigger issue.
you are right though... isolation definitely can lead to mental/physical health issues, and i feel so bad for him being all alone when he died..or even that aside, not having a group of guys to hang out with, or even have over for a beer/movie, anything. i wish he wouldve been able to break that cycle, but im sure getting banned from every establishment he visited didnt help!!
*sigh*
 
Warlord also went on panel with that giant chinned methhead Krystal Roberts and talked about it as well for some sort of tribute stream
i already asked here but got no replies - where can i watch this stream? i checked her channel again just now and it's not there. it it uploaded somewhere else? is it archived somewhere?
 
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