KINKiwis - A thread for genuine kink/fetish information and discussion

[The Lawgiver]

How? The inside of a stomach is much cleaner than the inside of a fursuit.

shut the fuck up totty

 

[Star Classic]

@femboy fart huffer, I just realized what your fucking posts remind me of.

There was literally a scene in a TV show where an unemployed guy goes and lectures others about fetish shit like this matter of factly in detail but I can only seem to find the shitty dub version that apparently came out more recently where he's talking all quirk chungusy and shit when the original audio he's literally doing the bullshit you're doing.

 

[awoo]

AI is so lame

In the past you would have actually had to been retarded and insane to post a screed like this. Now you can just load up chat gpt and pretend to be retarded instead.

Now IM the retard for even responding to this garbage. Its fucking bullshit bro

Unfortunately I tried several sections of text and all came back as 100% human



AFAIK this site GPTZero is the most accurate (free) AI text detector, although it is a tough task for any tool. From my experience the writing style is very human: grammar idiosyncrasies and a very personal conversational kind of writing style that dominates this site.

 

[theanimecompletionist]

Anime girls are kinky, but only my former girlfriends thought so too

 

[Joseph McCarthy]

What is it about Autism Spectrum Disorder that makes autists more prone to developing weird fetishes and feeling the urge to share them? The urge to share them I guess can be explained by the inability to understand social cues. But what causes their weird fetishes to begin with? Is it because autists have issues with neural pruning, leading to too many synapses? Does the overload of synapses just lead to sexual brain connections being made to things that aren't sexual? Deadwing Dork just did a video on a guy who had a fetish for denim overalls. That has to be a purely autism-fueled fetish instead of a porn-induced one, since I doubt any overalls fetish porn exists.

Edit: I think these fetish communities online also pop up because autists are bad at making friends so they choose to make friends in fetish communities because the bar for doing so is so low, you just have to help other degenerates jack off, who are also probably autistic. This is why autist tranny friend groups exist. Anyone can jack off and it doesn't require any skill to do so.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

It's just funny that you draw the line at fursuits when you're completely okay with shitting and pissing in a diaper sexually.

Well abdl people change the diaper when they get shit in it. Unlike furries. Also saying that and then instantly going on to talk about autism is uhhh. Idk with that one man.

AFAIK this site GPTZero is the most accurate (free) AI text detector,

They're all fucking dogshit. Any ai detector is worthless and they never work.

But what causes their weird fetishes to begin with?

Because if you're unable to really interact with your emotions and understand why things make you feel certain ways you're more likely to do things that you don't understand or realise. If you watch the video on kphoria then a lot of the comments from kids or the way the interviewees talk about it is very simplistic, it's just 'it makes me feel strange', there's not much interaction with what that strange feeling is or whether it should be avoided. Normal kids outgrow that sort of emotional unawareness much faster than autists. So I think that in part they're more likely to fall victim to this sort of thing because they are less able to self police and are like that for longer.

And if you have a hyperfixation as a child then I assume something like that can get twisted during puberty. Hence sonic and that sort of shit, kid has a hyperfixation, kid goes through puberty, topic is still fixated on, brain is still focused on sonic when it's trying to develop sexually and would normally be thinking about women, wires get crossed, sonic is now my 'women' and now a disabled man in a wheelchair eating a chili dog is what gets me off.

I suspect some sort of pseudo gay discovery happens for autists too. Gays are more likely to have fetishes because they have to actually think about what they like. If you're straight then your sex life is planned out for you, you put your cock in a vagina and there you go. If you're gay then you have to think about if you're a top or a bottom and that internal questioning leads to people going yea I want to top and also I want to suck toes when they might not have come to that conclusion otherwise because they had no reason to question it. I imagine if you're autistic then you have to do more thinking about what a relationship is and what it means and that sort of shit and would lead to some similar types of questioning.

 

[Sheogorath]

. Same thing goes for the rice purity test.

POSTER IS FROM THE THREE KINGDOMS PURE HUANG DYNASTY FLOWS IN HIS VEINS BOUNTIFUL HARVEST AND MOUNTAINS OF SILVER AND GOLD

 

[The Lawgiver]

Well abdl people change the diaper when they get shit in it. Unlike furries. Also saying that and then instantly going on to talk about autism is uhhh. Idk with that one man.
They're all fucking dogshit. Any ai detector is worthless and they never work.
Because if you're unable to really interact with your emotions and understand why things make you feel certain ways you're more likely to do things that you don't understand or realise. If you watch the video on kphoria then a lot of the comments from kids or the way the interviewees talk about it is very simplistic, it's just 'it makes me feel strange', there's not much interaction with what that strange feeling is or whether it should be avoided. Normal kids outgrow that sort of emotional unawareness much faster than autists. So I think that in part they're more likely to fall victim to this sort of thing because they are less able to self police and are like that for longer.

And if you have a hyperfixation as a child then I assume something like that can get twisted during puberty. Hence sonic and that sort of shit, kid has a hyperfixation, kid goes through puberty, topic is still fixated on, brain is still focused on sonic when it's trying to develop sexually and would normally be thinking about women, wires get crossed, sonic is now my 'women' and now a disabled man in a wheelchair eating a chili dog is what gets me off.

I suspect some sort of pseudo gay discovery happens for autists too. Gays are more likely to have fetishes because they have to actually think about what they like. If you're straight then your sex life is planned out for you, you put your cock in a vagina and there you go. If you're gay then you have to think about if you're a top or a bottom and that internal questioning leads to people going yea I want to top and also I want to suck toes when they might not have come to that conclusion otherwise because they had no reason to question it. I imagine if you're autistic then you have to do more thinking about what a relationship is and what it means and that sort of shit and would lead to some similar types of questioning.

 

[Joseph McCarthy]

And if you have a hyperfixation as a child then I assume something like that can get twisted during puberty. Hence sonic and that sort of shit, kid has a hyperfixation, kid goes through puberty, topic is still fixated on, brain is still focused on sonic when it's trying to develop sexually and would normally be thinking about women, wires get crossed, sonic is now my 'women' and now a disabled man in a wheelchair eating a chili dog is what gets me off.

If your original post were more scientific-sounding explanations like this, and the post title were something like "Psychology Behind Fetishes", then people wouldn't have clowned on you so hard.

Instead, your original post came across as normalization and explaining what turns you on specifically. The title also seems to imply it's a thread for people to overshare their deviant sexual fantasies. It's also a wall of text with zero formatting which makes no one want to actually read it. You could have at least used spoilers for each of the different sections.

I think you also conflate fetishes with sexual orientation. I don't view fetishes as an immutable characteristic of a person, but maybe I'm just not prone psychologically to having hardcore fetishes. I think if someone simply stops reinforcing those connections in their brain, it will probably go away over time.

I used to be more into mild-BDSM stuff like tying women up and all that, but the extreme side of that community always grossed me out and I disliked how it was a slippery slope into that. Never was into the bruising and making women bloody side of it, but I have slept with women who did want me to hit them sexually or choke them and I told them "No", because even if it's "just sexual roleplay", it makes me uncomfortable and I don't want to be held responsible for the consequences "even if they asked for it".

Stopped getting off to even the mild BDSM stuff and became more spiritual, now I don't really see an appeal to it at all anymore. Felt like it had something to do with psychological need for control stuff I worked through and that's why I don't get turned on by it anymore. Someone earlier in the thread posted a quote that mentioned how fetishes are the result of being scared of love, and I feel like that is absolutely true, at least in my prior experience. I'm harsh on this topic because I 100% do feel as though people are hindering themselves when they dedicate themselves to hedonistic fetish communities instead of trying to find real love.

Edit: I hate that Zoomers have normalized this hookup culture fetish community bullshit. No, it's not healthy for you, I don't care if your kink-informed poly-friendly gender-diverse therapist says that it is. There are studies that prove it has a psychological effect "even if it's just roleplay". Just look at the phenomenon of "Sub Drop" where BDSM submissives feel depressed after an extreme BDSM scene. People say "aftercare" is the solution but that's really just gaslighting after the abuse. The best solution is to just stop needing to beat each other up during sex and then you won't need to worry about "aftercare". Seeking out fetish communities sounds like it keeps reinforcing your unhealthy sexual habits. Just look at the troon community. Because they use sex as an unhealthy means to cope with their issues, they also spiral into worse and worse paraphilias when one stops giving them dopamine. They have fried their brain.

 

[Getmeout]

This is a spectrum.

There are some men who like their women a softer with curves to appreciate, theres SEC sorority girls dating absolute units of men who look like they ate the entire tailgate. Most of it is benign. People like chunkier for different reasons. One girl drunkenly admitted to me in college that she was internationally fattening up her bf because it looked like she was taking care of him and because she just liked a bigger man in bed, stockier= stronger, like a giant teddy bear. Another acquaintance told me he liked grabbing his wifes love handles because of how soft and sensitive they were. I suspect prevalence of this fetish is higher than normies will admit.

It goes off the rails when the person likes 300+ lbs whales when it starts causing health issues and looks more like a freakshow. Enter the BP where you get the deathfats who are being fed into an early grave pushing 700 lbs because thats not big enough for them.

Ya, I agree. As long as they're not pushing death, I think it's fine. I'm a straight girl, but I feel like most women I see that I think "Ya, I can understand wanting her" would be considered fat or chubby. Personally I never got why guys were infatuated with skinny girls. Most skinny girls look either sickly or underaged to me.

I'm just here to say that abdls freak me out and they should all be in asylums

I think the only fetishes that actually make me want to stay away from someone are anything related to children or acting like children. Usually I'm very open minded and don't mind people being into weird stuff, but I just don't see how you can get off to being in a diaper and not be having dangerous thoughts.

 

[LarpBait]

What is it about Autism Spectrum Disorder that makes autists more prone to developing weird fetishes and feeling the urge to share them? The urge to share them I guess can be explained by the inability to understand social cues. But what causes their weird fetishes to begin with? Is it because autists have issues with neural pruning, leading to too many synapses? Does the overload of synapses just lead to sexual brain connections being made to things that aren't sexual? Deadwing Dork just did a video on a guy who had a fetish for denim overalls. That has to be a purely autism-fueled fetish instead of a porn-induced one, since I doubt any overalls fetish porn exists.

Edit: I think these fetish communities online also pop up because autists are bad at making friends so they choose to make friends in fetish communities because the bar for doing so is so low, you just have to help other degenerates jack off, who are also probably autistic. This is why autist tranny friend groups exist. Anyone can jack off and it doesn't require any skill to do so.

There's actual documented evidence that there is, at minimum, a correlation between autism and hypersexuality, particularly in men. The discussion portion proposed a theory that I personally agree with: "The possible causes of the higher rates of hypersexuality in ASD men remain unclear, but it can be hypothesized that they are a part of the repetitive behaviors or influenced by sensory peculiarities." and "Although many ASD individuals in the present study had paraphilic fantasies, considerably fewer individuals actually showed overt paraphilic behaviors, supporting the suggestion that high-functioning ASD individuals could have higher self-control abilities than ASD patients with cognitive impairments.".

Given that spergs still had fantasies even if not acted upon, and that autism directly effects perception of sensations, I'd wager that the fetishism is just an outgrowth of autism's symptoms. I think this is especially the case with more sensory related fetishes. Its why I personally refuse to demonize spergs merely for being weirdos sexually, I don't think its their fault for the way they are.

doing any kind of actual research or effort posting in a thread literally made by the femboy fart huffer is niggerdust though, a proper sexual psychology thread may be worth making if there's enough interest in the subject.

 

[Harm]

Well abdl people change the diaper when they get shit in it.

Well, some do, anyways.

 

[droolkitty]

I have a fetish for 5’10 white 33 year old male web forum owners from Florida with brown hair, very wide-set blue eyes and a burning hatred for jeets if only someone that perfect was real…

 

[Joseph McCarthy]

Well, some do, anyways.

Pamperchu saves and reheats used diapers in the microwave. I don't believe diaperfaggots "play with diapers in a safe and sanitary way". "Safe kink" is a Redditor myth. Once someone spirals out of control into complete degeneracy, they really don't care about safety. Even if you were to try having a scat diaper kink "as safe as possible", you're still risking diseases and infection just from playing with feces in the first place. They may even fetishize the unsanitary and unsafe nature of it (example: Isabella Janke with her toe fungus fetish, or "AIDS bug-catchers" who deliberately catch AIDS on purpose). This type of behavior shouldn't be normalized, even if it's "safe kink", even if it's "a coping mechanism for trauma". There's better hobbies to have and better ways to work thru your issues.

Just look at all the health issues India has if you think scat fetish is "safe" and "needs more acceptance". Tyler Oliveira still got food poisoning despite only staying at 5-star hotels. And that was during his first trip to India, a trip separate from the "poop festival" video. He was even more ill after the poop festival video.

 

[Harm]

I don't believe diaperfaggots "play with diapers in a safe and sanitary way"

Of course not. The term used by ABDLs for shitting themselves in diapers is "messy," which is quite literally an antonym of "sanitary." So, I think they already know, and they've decided to coom in an unsanitary manner regardless.

However, I'm not going to pretend to care about people getting off in "unsanitary," but otherwise mundane manners. What's objectionable is utilizing diapers to facilitate sexual situations simulating pedophilia and child molestation. There's people who incorporate the diapers into kink stuff specifically because they're into piss and shit, or because it's being contextualized within a BDSM control scenario without all the "I'm-pretending-to-diddle-or-be-diddled" age regression stuff. More people are probably getting infections from "vanilla" sex than poopoo sex, anyways.

The reason you ultimately can't give any of these ABDLs any grace or benefit of the doubt is because the predatory "adult babies" will simply lie about exclusively being "diaper lovers" in an attempt to exploit that nuance, and then they'll form what are essentially "public pedophile communities, with extra steps" that still trade CSAM or groom teenagers. The fact it's also disgusting on its face is simply a cherry on top of the decision to condemn it all outright.

 

[Lizard Pope]

I had to tap out around 30 pages in, and I’m just wondering if I should call up the exorcists, or the assassins.
Kinks and whatnot are fine, provided they’re between consenting adults. Pedo adjacent shit gets the Tepes treatment, ya dig?

 

[Joseph McCarthy]

So, I think they already know, and they've decided to coom in an unsanitary manner regardless.

They do. They're turned on by how disgusting it is. I'm just saying that in response to OP.

What's objectionable is utilizing diapers to facilitate sexual situations simulating pedophilia and child molestation.

The reason you ultimately can't give any of these ABDLs any grace or benefit of the doubt is because the predatory "adult babies" will simply lie about exclusively being "diaper lovers" in an attempt to exploit that nuance, and then they'll form what are essentially "public pedophile communities, with extra steps" that still trade CSAM or groom teenagers. The fact it's also disgusting on its face is simply a cherry on top of the decision to condemn it all outright.

Agreed. ABDL is softcore pedophilia. So is lolicon/shotacon. I can't stand loli/shota faggots that say "Well yeah I jack off to anime elementary schoolers being brutally raped, BUT ITS JUST FICTION!". All of these things have also been used as grooming material to normalize it to real kids too.

Vaush is a perfect example of extreme gooner brainrot. He was exposed for being into horsecock and lolicon porn. There's also clips of him saying "child porn isn't bad actually". "Porn is sex education and more kids should watch porn" is also a very horrifyingly common Reddit tranny take.

This stuff warps your brain and sense of right and wrong. There was a research study that found when you had a group that had just watched porn versus a control group that didn't, the porn watching group has less empathy when presented with hypothetical situations. As OP mentioned in the original post, porn and sex lower your disgust reaction, so if you fry your brain so much that you have no disgust reaction to anything anymore, you're capable of some pretty dangerous sociopathic things. Gooner defenders forget that most serial killers got turned on by killing people.

Sidenote but I wonder if there's a correlation between circumsized men and porn addiction. I'm not circumsized so I don't know. But a friend told me the trauma from being circumsized at birth changes something about the baby's brain and makes them less empathetic. Not sure if true. But I wouldn't be surprised with the Jews.

 

[gagabobo1997]

Just look at the phenomenon of "Sub Drop" where BDSM submissives feel depressed after an extreme BDSM scene. People say "aftercare" is the solution but that's really just gaslighting after the abuse. The best solution is to just stop needing to beat each other up during sex and then you won't need to worry about "aftercare".

While I do generally agree with this point, I feel like for a significant number of people Sub Drop happens due to the comedown after what is essentially an extreme dose of pleasure and pain hormones. It doesn't even need to be from an extreme scene, I've heard of it happening after even light BDSM, I think it's probably a physiological reaction instead of completely psychological.
I wouldn't consider harder BDSM to be abuse as long as it's fully consenting and not just consensual during the session but also while the sub is not horny, since it's entirely possible to be in a completely different state of mind while horny and want things you would actually regret later. Safe BDSM can only happen with someone you trust, it's always a bad idea to engage in even light stuff with hookups or without really discussing it alot beforehand.

 

[Dead Gay Muppet Gangbang]

I have a fetish for 5’10 white 33 year old male web forum owners from Florida with brown hair, very wide-set blue eyes and a burning hatred for jeets if only someone that perfect was real…

I know a guy but unfortunately he's taken

 

[femboy fart huffer]

If your original post were more scientific-sounding explanations like this, and the post title were something like "Psychology Behind Fetishes", then people wouldn't have clowned on you so hard.

Read the post again with that mindset. It is entirely dry and detached and simply explains the logic and groupings of fetishes. Other than the things that are obviously jokes. If anyone reads a thread that starts with 'this thing is very fucking specifically not normal' and comes to the conclusion that it's trying to normalise shit then they're too retarded to bother talking to anyway. Explaining something abnormal and explaining how it relates to things you experience isn't noramlisation, that's just giving context. Any thread like this was always bound to have this sort of kneejerk reaction. But once again this sort of stuff is so misunderstood on a site that is otherwise incredibly anal about getting information correct so I think it's worthwhile at least starting the topic.

I remember a while ago reading a thread on some pooner that I can't remember anything else about, she'd always post about how full her bladder is and how badly she needed to piss, the entire thread was full of retards being like what the fuck does that mean I don't get it, why doesn't she just go take a piss? And for some reason people were fine with going through court records to find her deadname but googling 'piss holding' to see that it's a fetish was simply too far. There's several examples like that. Shit where it's so fucking obvious this is just someone's fetish but people refuse to talk about it because they'll just be seen in the same way as here 'knowing about something must mean you also find it erotic' or some other retarded bullshit.

Someone earlier in the thread posted a quote that mentioned how fetishes are the result of being scared of love, and I feel like that is absolutely true, at least in my prior experience.

I think this is just correlation =/= causation type shit. There are certainly people who are either scared of being genuine enough to find a partner or simply just unable to actually love someone and instead fill the void that sex in a relationship would fill with hookups and chasing the high with more and more fetishistic acts. Or just want casual sex because of whatever bullshit. There is a subset like that 100% but it is simply just not true for everyone.

Plus if you're not looking for a relationship then you're more likely to shit out 'here's everything I'm into please do all of this to me'. In a normal relationship that is in private and comes after you are already dating so people simply never hear about it. Kinda similar to how people thing every single gay guy is a massive whore because those are the only ones they see. The people who are too scared to form real relationships will be the ones posting their fetishes publicly because that's what they prioritise, that doesn't mean that only people too scared to love form fetishes. A person seeking a relationship will tell you about their life in their bio, a person seeking a hookup will tell you about their sex life instead, that does not mean the person looking for a relationship has no fetishes.

doing any kind of actual research or effort posting in a thread literally made by the femboy fart huffer is niggerdust though, a proper sexual psychology thread may be worth making if there's enough interest in the subject.

At the moment there is no choice. There was no place to discuss that before, now there is. If this thread dies off in a week or becomes a place for serious discussion idk we'll see when the shitposters leave and it has time instead of literally two days. Is anyone else going to want to be known as 'that guy that made the kf thread for fetishes'? Even if this thread dies and someone makes the same thing but slightly different then this will have still been a success anyway.

So, I think they already know, and they've decided to coom in an unsanitary manner regardless.

I mean

So it's more common to hear rack nowadays, which stands for risk aware consensual kink. Essentially do things that might be unsafe if you know it's unsafe and have taken steps to minimise that risk.

That's just an accepted part of fetish communities. A lot of fetishes that can be harmful the people doing them know it can be. They have just accepted that risk in the same way that people getting hookups on tinder have accepted the risk of stds or pregnancy and either willingly take those risks or minimise them as much as they can even if the condom is only 99% effective. No one is shitting themselves and thinking it's perfectly healthy to leave it like that.

I personally think that the slippery slope argument is fucking retarded in every context. If someone is doing something legal then they're doing something legal. If someone is doing something illegal they're doing something illegal. You have a large portion of the general population that already consider this site an alt right extremist site. That same logic applies to you as much as diaper fetishists. We are violent terrorists and they're paedophiles. People who do crime deserve to be punished, punishing people preemptively for a crime they might commit is authoritarianism. Also genuine question. Have you ever heard of a paedophile that wants to fuck kids because a kid wears a diaper? The only one I can think of is that viral video from a few months ago where the guy shits himself in the sting house and even then that was a paedophile who wanted to involve a child in his fetish, the 'child' wasn't still in diapers from what I remember. Last I checked paedophiles wanted to rape kids, diaper fetishists wanted to be them. It's fucking gross and I'd never leave a kid alone with one for the same reason I wouldn't want a foot fetishist to work at a shoe shop but acting as if an entire community are paedophiles because 'one of them might lie' is just fucking dumb. Are they exploiting nuance or just being honest when they say that they won't cross the line like everyone else? Part of free speech and freedom of expression is sometimes you just have to defend people you don't like. They are as free to say and do whatever they want as I am.

There are certainly paedophiles with diaper fetishes, people like taigaholic (maybe tygrecub too idk enough about him), I do not think those people should be arrested for having a diaper fetish, I think they should be arrested for being a paedophile. His interest in diapers is at least partly paedophilic in that he sexualises actual diaper age (anime) toddlers instead of just the diaper itself, but does that mean any interest in diapers is inherently paedophilic because someone took it to an illegal degree? If so why is vaginal sex not also paedophilia because certain paedophiles took that to an illegal degree too? Both of those are on the correct side of the line and should be left alone unless they cross the line. One of those is aesthetically closer to that line, even if it is also morally/ethically closer to that line it's still not over it. Or once again, pamperchu. He is a paedophile because he explicitly states he wants to rape children and force them to wear diapers, he is not a paedophile because he engages in consenting activity with another adult. Microwaving diapers is fine, I don't care, I do care about people who want to rape kids though.

I have seen a lot of these people. The absolute vast majority of them are simply people with a fetish. They should be treated for who they are, not for who the worst person in their community is. Once again that is redditor behaviour and the exact same shit that faggots like smokeymcc uses to bullshit about novaonline being a paedophile. I will treat them with the same respect I expect myself to be treated. To be judged for who I am and not dragged into guilt by association bullshit. My personal enjoyment of a fetish does not change my morals unless that fetish is illegal or immoral.

Agreed. ABDL is softcore pedophilia. So is lolicon/shotacon.

I won't bother with the abdl shit. I will however heavily disagree with the lolicon shit. If you wank over images of children in any context it IS paedophilia. It's not softcore paedophilia. It is literally just a crime in the vast majority of countries.

I didn't see the shit about circumcision when I hit post. But probably yes being circumcised does have an impact. If you're circumcised the most sensitive part of your cock loses that sensitivity and so orgasming can feel less enjoyable. If it's less enjoyable you're probably more likely to seek out harder fetish content. Essentially the coomer desensitisation aside from it is a literal physical lack of sensation in your cock.