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I can't get into them. They're overwhelming, which is the point, but kinda distracting and too degrading for me. Doesn't leave room to focus and fantasize. Maybe autistic overstimulation. It's the same for me watching feature-length movies where afterwards it's just tiring for the mind.
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for real though, why the fuck would you even want to get into that shit in the first place
 
I can't get into them. They're overwhelming, which is the point, but kinda distracting and too degrading for me. Doesn't leave room to focus and fantasize. Maybe autistic overstimulation. It's the same for me watching feature-length movies where afterwards it's just tiring for the mind.
oldfags trying not the be open sexual deviants challenge level impossible
 
oldfags trying not the be open sexual deviants challenge level impossible
At some point you realize all of this Internet posturing about how cool and based you are for preferring the most boring sex known to man is fucking gay and lame. Give it a decade and you'll be telling us your favorite sissy hypno vids too.
 
At some point you realize all of this Internet posturing about how cool and based you are for preferring the most boring sex known to man is fucking gay and lame. Give it a decade and you'll be telling us your favorite sissy hypno vids too.
"bait" or "satire" it is impossible to tell because of "erect penis law"
I'm considered oldfag now? Where did everyone else go :(
I wouldn't say 8 years is very old. The other half idk.
 
At some point you realize all of this Internet posturing about how cool and based you are for preferring the most boring sex known to man is fucking gay and lame. Give it a decade and you'll be telling us your favorite sissy hypno vids too.
>if you goon and obsess over porn for a decade, you will become like me as well!
I think I will be "boring" instead, literal fag. If that makes me lame in the eyes of the mentally ill, oh well.
 
>if you goon and obsess over porn for a decade, you will become like me as well!
I think I will be "boring" instead, literal fag. If that makes me lame in the eyes of the mentally ill, oh well.
Yass queen! Take my Reddit gold!
 
After a recommendation from a friend, I've been getting into sissy hypno lately and it's pretty interesting how they meld elements of occult spiritual practices into these sissy hypno videos. There's one I was running through where they use a lot of visualization, subliminal messaging, and meditation techniques to draw out feminine energies to wash over you. It felt more like spiritual pathworking than a fetish ASMR video. This is a bit of a double-edged sword, as if that's the kind of thing you're looking for and you understand what you're doing, it's worthwhile magick, but it's not sitting well with me that they're guiding unsuspecting people into these techniques.
Do you hypno people actually believe in it, or are you consciously roleplaying with the video? I am not a big believer in hypnosis or that kind of psychospiritual quackery, so I have doubts that a trained psychohypnotist could hypnotize someone in person, much less some YouTube rando with a video and some stock swirl animations. I would be flabber fucking gasted if hypnosis videos like that would have even a modicum of an impact on someone straight and who wasn't already into hypno stuff. I guess a more refined version of my initial question is, is that something you watch/listen to when you already want to be in the... "Sissy headspace," or do you actually feel it makes you feel more "sissy" than before you listened to it, even if you're starting from zero? If it's the latter, how do you know it's because of an inherent hypnotic quality and not just because it turns you on and makes you consciously think about fetishy stuff?

Hopefully they didn't sound too harsh, because I am genuinely curious. I remember asking someone online before but this seems like a much better place to get a legitimate answer and explanation
 
Do you hypno people actually believe in it, or are you consciously roleplaying with the video? I am not a big believer in hypnosis or that kind of psychospiritual quackery, so I have doubts that a trained psychohypnotist could hypnotize someone in person, much less some YouTube rando with a video and some stock swirl animations. I would be flabber fucking gasted if hypnosis videos like that would have even a modicum of an impact on someone straight and who wasn't already into hypno stuff. I guess a more refined version of my initial question is, is that something you watch/listen to when you already want to be in the... "Sissy headspace," or do you actually feel it makes you feel more "sissy" than before you listened to it, even if you're starting from zero? If it's the latter, how do you know it's because of an inherent hypnotic quality and not just because it turns you on and makes you consciously think about fetishy stuff?

Hopefully they didn't sound too harsh, because I am genuinely curious. I remember asking someone online before but this seems like a much better place to get a legitimate answer and explanation
It definitely requires your willful participation, otherwise it's just noise in your ear lol, and the thing is it's less like "hypnosis" in the common layman sense and more like guided meditations. Like any meditation, if you're just listening and not participating, nothing will really happen. My eyes are always closed and I'm clearing my mind of all thought other than intent focus on the video content, using my willpower to follow the instructions. To me, all psychology and spirituality is related and therefore "psychospiritual" because they exist along the same continuum of human expression and individuality, with psychology being closer to the material aspects of it and spirituality being closer to the Divine spiritual aspects of it.

The crux of it is that you already are "sissy," or have a deeply feminine temperament, and the process is about drawing out and fostering that which is already there. The ones I've been consuming aren't very "kinky" on their face; it's about accessing repressed femininity and integrating it into your sense of self. Whether a biological male is masculine or feminine appears itself to be of biological consequence, and it's societal dogmas pushing narratives to the contrary (epitomized by the knuckle draggers parroting "you're obsessed with porn! this is all a character flaw because you consumed too much Internet porn!" completely oblivious to the historic reality of feminine men existing before electricity even existed, let alone fucking Internet pornography).
 
Do you hypno people actually believe in it, or are you consciously roleplaying with the video?
Almost every time I have seen some shit like that it's just been people larping. Most of what I've seen is people wanting to lose control like 50% of the fetishises that exist and just accepting that role. I wouldn't really say it's hypnosis it's more like joi videos from a submissive perspective.
 
There have been many things people have said to me on this site that would be considered offensive to the general public. None of them have done anything to me. The heaps of kys and faggot type comments, all of those things mean nothing to me. But holy fucking shit you would dare to compare me to fucking WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is just a step too far. I am a Jay, a Niel at worst.
You kept correcting people on partialism. That's Will-coded behaviour.
Though I'm probably a Will tbh.
Basically: this thread doesn't warrant you getting shot, lmao
I can't get into them. They're overwhelming, which is the point, but kinda distracting and too degrading for me. Doesn't leave room to focus and fantasize. Maybe autistic overstimulation. It's the same for me watching feature-length movies where afterwards it's just tiring for the mind.
Break down what exactly you like via objectivity/introspection.
@femboy fart huffer is likely correct in that the appeal is gentle degradation/submissiveness from the viewer POV. It's asking something of you, and affirming/supporting you in doing it. It makes you apart of the content since it's addressing you the viewer so it acts as a form of psuedo-intimacy, or helps immerse you in the fantasy.

There might be a way to arrive at some specifics here so I'll use this as an excuse to ramble on a theory/play armchair psychologist.

Heterosexual men who become bisexual or homosexual via porn-consumption or hypersexual-means (early porn exposure or sexual activity in adolescence) can be the result of induced fetishism (fetish = sexual arousal only in the presence of said fetish) for men/penises and because they're ashamed of the origin, they often contrive explanations on why it isn't a fetish and argue something was always the case.

Essentially, this is a form of retroactive homosexuality i.e. "I've always been gay but didn't realise it until now." where the mere act of "being gay" is actually an extension of their autoeroticism (enabled by their hypersexuality), because it represents an escalation of sorts into quasi-exhibitionism. They're also the most likely to be aggressively defensive with their fetish because their brains are still intrinsically more masculine than feminine* (as seen in transgenders—political/moral aspects aside) but on the other side of the coin are homosexuals/bisexuals whose brains are closer to feminine than masculine.
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(We already know brains can undergo physical changes during aging—like people who played Pokemon as a kid vs those who didn't, so nurture is very much still a factor here)

Now, what am I getting to? Well, there's a surprising amount of data out there on the porn habits of women, but it's often used to support a completely different or unrelated conclusion to the data collected. There's also a point of comparison to be made between women who've experienced sexual victimisation (broad as that is) and a predilection towards more extreme forms of pornography—which is synonymous with hypersexuality, where certain psychological or structural changes to the brain result in a major change in behaviour/internalisation of certain things.

This study was meant to correlate porn-preferences with political belief and believing in the "rape myth" (i.e. a victim of rape "deserved" it for whatever reason), but within it also helps to classify different groups of women mentally-speaking in their porn preferences (discount the 2 trannies). Sample sizes for this shit are always small but even if you can't extrapolate the results universally it doesn't discount the existence of the possibility—but I digress.
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It also acknowledges that porn does affect behaviour/can be used to predict behaviour but the conclusion is weaker because we don't know the exact type of pornography consumed in the relevant studies.
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Anyway, the relevant classes here and identified are thus:
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Heterogeneous = endorsing multiple genres of pornography = 39% of the sample
Traditionally Feminine = endorsing socially acceptable female behaviour (massages > hardcore/domination) = 27% of the sample
Female Pleasure = endorsing genres more likely to depict female orgasms and less likely to depict female orgasms (lesbian > public) = 23% of the sample
Rough/violent = endorsing genres that depict aggressive/violent sex as opposed to showing some sort of romance (rough sex > romantic) = 11% of the sample
Class 1 through 4 in the above ordering.
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The other bit of relevant data is how these categories are more likely to correlate to certain criteria. The four are: Sexual Esteem (How highly they think of themselves when it comes to sex), Diverse Sexual Experiences (how often were they likely to participate in kink/fetishist behaviour), sexual victimisation (whether they were a victim of some forceful/aggressive/non-consensual sexual activity), and how likely they were to believe in "rape myths" (Victim blaming rape victims, sometimes """victims""") All defined in greater detail below.

Sexual Esteem​

Participants completed the sexual esteem subscale from the Sexuality Scale (Snell & Papini, 1989), a 10-item subscale that evaluates one’s sexual self (e.g., “I am a good sexual partner”; “I sometimes have doubts about my sexual competence”). Participants responded using a Likert-type scale with values that ranged from 0 to 4. This measure had acceptable reliability in the current sample (α = .80).

Diverse Sexual Experiences​

Participants were also asked how often they engaged in three diverse sexual behaviors, “how often have you ever practiced sexual activity that is related to [BDSM, fetishes/kink, consensual polyamory/swinging]?” Responses were recorded on a five-point Likert scale: 1 = never, 2 = rarely, 3 = sometimes, 4 = often, and 5 = very often. These items were combined into a diverse sexual experiences mean score, with acceptable reliability (α = .79).

Sexual Violence Victimization​

Sexual violence victimization was assessed using 3 items that were developed and validated during a prior longitudinal study (Cook-Craig et al., 2014). Participants were asked how often they experienced three forms of sexual violence in the last 12-months: such as having sexual activities “although you did not really want to because either they threatened to end your friendship or romantic relationship if you didn’t”; “because you felt pressured by the other person’s constant arguments or begging”; “when you did not want to because you were drunk or on drugs”; and “when you did not want to because the other person threatened to use or used physical force (like twisting your arm, holding you down) if you did not”. Answers were coded as 1 = 0 times, 2 = 1-2 times, 3 = 3-5 times, 4 = 6-9 times, and 5 = 10 or more times. These items were combined into a sexual victimization score, with good reliability (α = .91).

Sexual Violence Perpetration​

Sexual violence perpetration was assessed using 3 items that were developed and validated during a prior longitudinal study (Cook-Craig et al., 2014) and similar to the sexual violence victimization items described above. Participants were asked how often they perpetrated three forms of sexual violence in the last 12-months: such as pressuring or forcing someone to engage in sexual activities “by threatening to end your friendship or romantic relationship if they didn’t”; “by pressuring the other person through constant arguments or begging”; “by giving them alcohol or other drugs”; or “by using physical force (holding them down) if they did not”. Answers were coded as 1 = 0 times, 2 = 1-2 times, 3 = 3-5 times, 4 = 6-9 times, and 5 = 10 or more times. These items were combined into a sexual perpetration score, with good reliability (α = .90).

Rape Myth Acceptance​

Participants completed the Illinois Rape Myth Acceptance Scale in its version that was modified for more subtle forms of victim blaming and rape myth attitudes (McMahon & Farmer, 2011). The modified version included six rape-supportive statements, such as “If a girl is raped while she is drunk, she is at least somewhat responsible for letting things get out of control”; “When girls go to parties wearing slutty clothes, they are asking for trouble”; “If a girl goes to a room alone with a guy at a party, it is her own fault if she is raped”; “If a girl acts like a slut, eventually she is going to get into trouble”; “When girls are raped, it’s often because the way they said ‘no’ was unclear”; and “If a girl initiates kissing or hooking up, she should not be surprised if a guy assumes she wants to have sex.” Participants responded using a Likert-type scale with values that ranged from 1 = “strongly disagree” to 5 = “strongly agree”. The mean score of these items was used to create a rape myth acceptance score, with acceptable reliability (α = .71).
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Unfortunately the table does not include who were more likely to perpetrate sexual violence because "Sexual violence perpetration was a nonsignificant correlate in the model."—lmao
TLDR:
People who believe rape myths more are especially drawn to Traditionally Feminine porn. (Class 2)
People with higher sexual self-esteem are a bit less likely to prefer Traditionally Feminine (Class 2) or Rough/Violent porn (Class 4).
People who have had more varied real-life sex tend to prefer mixed/varied porn (Class 1) and avoid Rough/Violent porn (class 4).
People who have experienced sexual victimization are significantly more likely to prefer Rough/Violent porn. (Class 4)

If you're a strictly homosexual man (bisexual men aren't excluded), and you actively fantasise whilst watching porn, your mental experience probably overlaps more with how most women engage with autoeroticism—which tends to be highly fantasy-focused and self-insertive.

Because of this, you could be mapped onto the same classes in the study, with some straightforward gender flips: “vaginas” become “penises,” “bisexual female” becomes “bisexual male,” “lesbian” becomes “gay male,” and so on. I'm discounting Class 4 since I'm going to assume you weren't raped or molested.

If you’re an unashamed “coomer” (in the neutral, high-volume sense), you probably fall into Class 1. Surprisingly, women in this class are not particularly drawn to “rough sex” or “hardcore” content—often including degradation or harm i.e. the reason you were deterred from sissy hypno. This aversion to degrading or violent material is something Class 1 shares strongly with Class 3.

Class 1 can also arise from hypersexuality and heavy porn exposure rather than any real-life experience. Even in that case, there’s often still an underlying revulsion toward harm in the context of something that’s supposed to be pleasurable for you. However you could go, "Hypsexuallity can be involved in all of these" so I'll refrain from bringing it up too often.

The main difference between Class 1 and Class 3 is that Class 3 tends to be more sensual, intimate, and pleasure-focused. Class 1 is simply more varied. Class 1 women also tend to have slightly more diverse real-life sexual experience than Class 3 women, which may or may not be relevant to you (not that I'm asking you to PL, I'm more or less talking around that aspect) but Class 2 also has more sexual variation—it also doesn't just include ever having sex, but how much kinky shit you do, because you could have it by the barrel but if it's vanilla every time then the number is still lower.

Classes 2 and 4 both lean toward more fantastical or idealised depictions of sex. This tracks with the data showing that women in these two classes had the lowest real-life sexual experience/diversity and the lowest sexual esteem/confidence.

If you’re a virgin/have little sexual experience, who was never molested or hypersexualised (early porn exposure/frequent access to porn in youth), you’d most likely map onto Class 2. This class is the most “conservative-leaning” in tone—it idealises emotional, romantic, and sensual aspects, while strongly avoiding extreme or degrading shit. It’s the kind of porn you’d personally want to participate in if you had little or no experience. You are less likely to be a Class 2 if you have more confidence in you sexuality/sexual capability, but are also more likely to be in Class 2 if you have less sexual experience/diversity.

If you’re a non-virgin bisexual or homosexual man who wasn’t shaped by adolescent molestation, you probably prefer porn that engages your imagination for self-insertion without any elements of harm or degradation. This is partly because your real-life sexual experiences didn’t involve wanting to hurt someone or be hurt by them. (Class 4s were twice as likely as Class 3 to have been the victim of sexual violence/coerced sex and so on).

This can point equally at Class 1 or Class 3. Class 3 can also stem from hypersexuality**, much like Class 1 (i.e early porn exposure/early sexual activity reinforcing specific habits) However, it correlates almost perfectly with Class 1 on most dimensions except that Class 3 women are even more indulgent toward pure self-pleasure and even more averse to “harmful” categories. This pattern may point to an even greater role of imagination and fantasy in their (or your) experience.

Class 3s, if you flipped the sex, are parallel to more hypersexual-resultant bisexuals/homosexuals i.e. sexuality shaped via early porn exposure or early sexual experience. The most striking difference is Class 2s were twice as likely to believe in "rape myths" i.e. "a rape victim can hold some blame the rape in specific instances***" than Class 3s. Class 3s could encapsulate very Liberal women, TERFs, lesbians, or even more politics-brained coomers i.e. Class 1s who still want to be "moral" with their porn consumption (though this could also describe Class 2s)

There's nothing stopping you from being a Class 2 bisexual if you prefer women overall to men—the "lesbian" (Gay) sex score might be low but if you replaced it with a strict category of "Feminine men" then it might score higher if that more or less encapsulates your orientation. Full-on homosexuality is more an escalation from bisexuality—there's rarely a full on switch where someone goes straight to gay without outside or internal reinforcement.
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TLDR: Homos/bisexuals are more female-brained than they are strictly male, so there's possible overlap with sexual interests and porn-preferences that can be compared between the two. Using armchair psychology on an extremely limited set of criteria and going on a foundation many would disagree with (homosexual/bisexual men are similarly-brained to women), @awoo would either be:
Class 1: doesn't discriminate on content except hardcore/rough-sex/massage(slow and sensual?)—more apolitical, kinkier sex life, sexually confident
Class 2: primarily enjoys more romantic, intimate form of content—more conservative, less kinky sex life, less sexual confidence
Class 3: primarily enjoys content where pleasure is the primary aspect—more liberal, sexually confident, less kinky sex life than Class 1 or 2 (perhaps even less likely to ever have had sex than Class 1 or 2)

TLDRTLDR: You're probably Class 2 i.e. have a more positive/healthy sexual imagination with an inclination towards more idealised romance stuff than raw gratification despite potentially having broad tastes in porn. You might be willing to "experience new things" but will predictably be less gratified by content that has connotations to specific types of mental or physical harm.

*I've alluded to this earlier in the thread, but I think it's a mistake to lock certain things, especially to do with abstract thinking/perception, to exclusively male or female, it's more like one way of thinking veers more male and another veers female, but they aren't locked to either.
**I know it sounds like a pejorative, but hypersexuality isn't life-long and six months of being a fervent masturbator in your teens to porn acclimating you to the same sex in a sexual context can cause—potentially—irreversible change. Some of the language I use also makes it sound like a bigger deal than it actually is but that's just a me-thing.
***The "rape" as defined also includes instances of retroactive non-consent, having sex whilst drunk, or engaging in sexual activity after initiating intimate contact and the man perceived it as a sexual advance.

Do you hypno people actually believe in it, or are you consciously roleplaying with the video? I am not a big believer in hypnosis or that kind of psychospiritual quackery, so I have doubts that a trained psychohypnotist could hypnotize someone in person, much less some YouTube rando with a video and some stock swirl animations. I would be flabber fucking gasted if hypnosis videos like that would have even a modicum of an impact on someone straight and who wasn't already into hypno stuff. I guess a more refined version of my initial question is, is that something you watch/listen to when you already want to be in the... "Sissy headspace," or do you actually feel it makes you feel more "sissy" than before you listened to it, even if you're starting from zero? If it's the latter, how do you know it's because of an inherent hypnotic quality and not just because it turns you on and makes you consciously think about fetishy stuff?

Hopefully they didn't sound too harsh, because I am genuinely curious. I remember asking someone online before but this seems like a much better place to get a legitimate answer and explanation
It's not universally applicable, obviously. Also not the person you directed the question toward but such "hypnovids" may be a way to self-induce a form of hypersexuality in the consumer.
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Of course this self-induction comes with acquiring a new kink (or fetish, in the worst-case scenario i.e. the inability to become aroused unless that particular paraphilia is present) which rewards you with dopamine with exposure to it.

Since it also involves putting the viewer centre within their own sexual fantasy (relating to the content of the "hypnosis") actions which they already undertake to stimulate themselves become much more potent, thus engaging, ergo impactful.

This largely pertains to those who've immersed themselves in it to the extent that it has a constant preoccupation in their mind. They absolutely aren't content for people who aren't already predisposed to the content within the video, but they can be an escalation of sorts. "Sissy" content is an escalation of crossdressing/femboys since it's a far more fetishized extreme. Some content is specifically designed as reinforcement i.e. a passive/fleeting kink can become internalised.

So, hypothetically, if your overexposure to porn lead to bicuriosity (fleeting interest/curiosity in same-sex activity) or you had some sort of passing interest in a member of the same sex, then there's videos which exist to reinforce it into full-on bisexuality. It's very simple and takes advantage of the same process which triggered it in the first place: sexual images of women interspersed with sexual images of men so your brain is acclimated/"tricked" into seeing women and men as equally arousing.

It's not at all complex or mystical, and I think arguments to the contrary might be cope, especially if said people counter-arguing also don't want to attribute their sexual orientation to porn use.

It's a sort of positive reinforcement. Your brain is tricked into equating certain thoughts and imagery as being "good". Hypersexual people immersed in the fantasy can only try to make the fantasy "real" by abiding by the content of the videos thus escalating it to get larger and larger "hits".

There is an aspect to this I mentioned with the other poster ("feminine brained") where the content is meant to help immerse the consumer in a fantasy and the divide here would be those who keep the fantasy immaterial and those who bring it into the material. Those that do the latter will more likely assert the legitimacy of the hypno content as being less sexual than the former, because some of this content reinforces and escalates IRL lifestyle changes that could have irreversible endpoints. "Sissy" content (hyper-feminisation/self-emasculation/degradation) is extremely easy to result in trooning out.
 

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If you're a strictly homosexual man (bisexual men aren't excluded), and you actively fantasise whilst watching porn, your mental experience probably overlaps more with how most women engage with autoeroticism—which tends to be highly fantasy-focused and self-insertive.
from the gays ive talked to this is true, many of them like to look at art or read something erotic and imagine an expansion of said media to include themselves.
 
So glad we could definitively answer the Sissy Hypno question here in the KINKiwis thread.

Now, can we figure findom? Why is it so arousing to paypig a stranger?
 
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