VTuber Kirsche Verstahl - Host of Foxu News and anti-BRIDGE activist.

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If it IS about Rima, I kinda feel for Kirsche considering Kir basically tanked all of Ana Valen's ire when - by all accounts - Ana was revving up to target Rima and ElaraVT before Kirsche made fun of Valens. Not covering her drama, but then conveniently covering the Pippa drama, is kind of a fucking cop out. At least Kuri Rinji, Armchair, and Rev are real ones. HeroHei too.
The news only covered the pippa angle. Kirsche part is inside baseball. And she has covered kirsche before. I still think its filian. Thats the most recent collab.

Also, rima is not part of any group or fitting in as it were. Those are people like again filian, or corpos. Alana doesnt care much for that either.
 
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Kirsche has now been away for 3 days with no reason given.
She's streamed 4 of the last 7 days, including 5 hours yesterday. Wtf are you talking about?

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The news only covered the pippa angle. Kirsche part is inside baseball. And she has covered kirsche before. I still think its filian. Thats the most recent collab. Kirsche has now been away for 3 days with no reason given.

Also, rima is not part of any group or fitting in as it were. Those are people like again filian, or corpos. Alana doesnt care much for that either.
A) You're wrong, as the guy above pointed out, and B) She just had fairly major dental surgery and is going to feel like shit for a hot minute, cut her some slack.
 
>Josh brings up the thread about the guy who got arrested at a protest
>barely talks about the guy and instead plays a clip from a collab with Moonshine

Great...
Josh had a good point though. Sometimes you just have shitty fans and its not always a grand conspiracy. You cannot control what over a thousand people do unless you truly believe the fandom for a specific userbase is a monolith.

Animes fear occams razor.
 
A) You're wrong, as the guy above pointed out, and B) She just had fairly major dental surgery and is going to feel like shit for a hot minute, cut her some slack.
Yeah i just saw. She cant confirm the appointment in the last stream. Still have no idea what the tweet was about
 
Josh had a good point though. Sometimes you just have shitty fans and its not always a grand conspiracy. You cannot control what over a thousand people do unless you truly believe the fandom for a specific userbase is a monolith.

Animes fear occams razor.
I would hazard a guess to say Jersh is probably right, but Kirsche's disavowal was the correct response from a "I don't want to get involved in another PR shit show" perspective.
 
Josh had a good point though. Sometimes you just have shitty fans and its not always a grand conspiracy. You cannot control what over a thousand people do unless you truly believe the fandom for a specific userbase is a monolith.

Animes fear occams razor.

I would hazard a guess to say Jersh is probably right, but Kirsche's disavowal was the correct response from a "I don't want to get involved in another PR shit show" perspective.
It's also not a simple "was he a fan or not" discussion here. There are retards on this site and will see his Pippa and Kirsche interactions and think "this is what degenerates liking these FUCKING ANIME WOMEN causes" like Jack Fucking Thompson, and not the 6000+ hours of VRchat gooning and grooming. Or the facts he's literally just an insane person.
 
It's also not a simple "was he a fan or not" discussion here. There are retards on this site and will see his Pippa and Kirsche interactions and think "this is what degenerates liking these FUCKING ANIME WOMEN causes" like Jack Fucking Thompson, and not the 6000+ hours of VRchat gooning and grooming. Or the facts he's literally just an insane person.
Yeah I get the impression that the correct community discussion that Elijah fits into is the HOI4 community thread. Short version, the dude is just a dangerous autistic retard who latches onto random communities. I'm not going to blame Kirsche for attracting his attention, that's just bad luck. Phil's media buddies will though, and that's what I think she's hedging against. The screeching video Kirsche watched reminded me of Bathtub Ross's Mega Reeeee.

 
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It's also not a simple "was he a fan or not" discussion here. There are retards on this site and will see his Pippa and Kirsche interactions and think "this is what degenerates liking these FUCKING ANIME WOMEN causes" like Jack Fucking Thompson, and not the 6000+ hours of VRchat gooning and grooming. Or the facts he's literally just an insane person.
To be fair, Jersh did say multiple times that he thinks Pippa and Kirsche had no influence in making Elijah that way, just that he was a degenerate and just so happened to be their fan. Obviously trigger-happy retards will still take it as said vtubers pandering to people like Elijah, and will believe in the "vtuber to neonazi pipeline" but you couldn't have changed the minds of those people to begin with.
 
To be fair, Jersh did say multiple times that he thinks Pippa and Kirsche had no influence in making Elijah that way, just that he was a degenerate and just so happened to be their fan. Obviously trigger-happy retards will still take it as said vtubers pandering to people like Elijah, and will believe in the "vtuber to neonazi pipeline" but you couldn't have changed the minds of those people to begin with.
That’s a technique that they used to clamp down on speech. You directly attribute a bad thing to someone saying the no-no words as though they’re the puppet masters. Valens is still running the 2018 playbook.
 
To be fair, Jersh did say multiple times that he thinks Pippa and Kirsche had no influence in making Elijah that way, just that he was a degenerate and just so happened to be their fan. Obviously trigger-happy retards will still take it as said vtubers pandering to people like Elijah, and will believe in the "vtuber to neonazi pipeline" but you couldn't have changed the minds of those people to begin with.
While true, the framing of him spending nearly half the segment talking about the Anime Women vs maybe looking into Sprate's thread on VRchat and all the shit in there isn't the best either.
 
It's also not a simple "was he a fan or not" discussion here. There are retards on this site and will see his Pippa and Kirsche interactions and think "this is what degenerates liking these FUCKING ANIME WOMEN causes" like Jack Fucking Thompson, and not the 6000+ hours of VRchat gooning and grooming. Or the facts he's literally just an insane person.
There's also the fact that despite people looking into and pointing out the guy's history IN the thread people kept butting in acting like he was a fan of the person this thread's about when the timeline activity was literally retweets and pfp change after hitpieces claiming they were a Nazi. Shit gives me the same vibes as the fucking cardposting guy's videos accusing everything of being alt right dogwhistles (and now accusing null of being a brony too) where you can easily look at the timeline and see that "no, that claim makes no fucking sense! He's omitting shit actively to push some politics team bullshit!"

I got my own rants I go go on kirsche's own brand of shit that I nooticed. Her associating bipartisan opinions on shit as "right wing" but positive not negative because she's seemingly trying to rub shoulders now seemingly with the political class a bit being one of those, which really kinda fucking pisses me off given recent betrayals of the last few months by a long term friend who randomly started spinning me as right wing and then completely cut me off in a way intended to make it hard for me to contact anyone I knew. HOWEVER, this isn't a cow thread, and even if it was I'd be buried under the swarm of people just doing the same shit as what the pippa thread turned into of not actually looking at new info or context to shit and just framing it as support because it's not the echoing chorus of "HEY GUYS... DID YOU KNOW? MMMMM... CHILD RAPE!" type shit. It kinda fucks me up how there's less and less places I can actually just chill and talk about funny shit with people it's likely genuinely fucking me up in some way.

This might have come out jumbled because I got stress shit outside the computer and a small dog barking in my fucking ear as I'm typing this out every time I collect my thoughts enough to start fucking typing. Don't wanna ramble too much about this shit right now once again.

That’s a technique that they used to clamp down on speech. You directly attribute a bad thing to someone saying the no-no words as though they’re the puppet masters. Valens is still running the 2018 playbook.
It's been the playbook since 2016, maybe a little earlier. A LOT earlier if you aren't just counting it becoming the main go-to for journos and politispergs that aren't actual party members, and It's still happening. It will keep happening and getting worse unless people actually look into shit before the evidence inevitably gets fucking DFEd
 
While true, the framing of him spending nearly half the segment talking about the Anime Women vs maybe looking into Sprate's thread on VRchat and all the shit in there isn't the best either.
Our host has a fixation—or a "thesis" or "axiom," to be kind. Anything that points anywhere near anime lolishit is going to get him stuck on that, because he thinks that's The Key To All This, not just a another thing weirdos get weird about. It's his masonic rug pattern.

It's been the playbook since 2016, maybe a little earlier.
Earlier for sure, but that's when I remember it starting to hit people like Kirsche, innocent girls marginally associated with politics. The first I remember was Martina Markota, a snob burlesque girl and art history streamer who got fired, blacklisted, debanked, travel-banned, and deleted from almost the whole internet for being a Trump fan with a Russian-sounding pseudonym. She's "back" (still exists) but her career got thwarted right when she seemed to be catching on. That's when they getcha.
 
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I would hazard a guess to say Jersh is probably right, but Kirsche's disavowal was the correct response from a "I don't want to get involved in another PR shit show" perspective.
And shes not wrong for disavowing them either. You can disavow someone who is a fan, the two things aremt mutually exclusive.
 
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