Kiwi Farms interview with the "journalist" who interviewed Jace

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Kid, seeing as you want to work for Pixar I'm going to give you some advice. Not from me, but from legendary anime director Yoshiyuki Tomino. Just so you don't end up like Chris-chan, Andrew Dosbon, Disneyfan01 or The Golden Knight.

Q:

Dear Director Tomino,

I am a second year high school student. The time when I have to decide on which university I want to go to, and what kind of career I want, is rapidly approaching. I know this sounds vague, but I am filled with the desire to make a living by drawing. I can't talk to my parents about this. The last time I told them "I want to draw for a living," they basically told me "there's no career in that. You should go to university and become an OL (office lady) like other people." After hearing this kind of thing I lost interest in discussing it with my parents, but it's a fact I need to start making decisions about my future. Even if I am hazy about what it's going to be. That's why I'm writing you, Director Tomino. How can I decide my future path? I'm willing to take anything you dish out, so I'd really appreciate it if you could share your thoughts.

Miyuri, Aichi Prefecture

A:

Now that is a tough question. All I can tell you is the same thing your parents did: you should go to university and become an OL.

If you're a second-year high school student saying you want to be an illustrator, you're old enough to be asked about your qualifications. Seeing drawing as a job you can just somehow land is an amateur's way of looking at things. You need a great deal of actual experience to work in this industry.

Putting it in an easier to understand way with animation as an example, simply loving drawing isn't enough to become an animator. By the second year of high school, an aspiring animator should be drawing "in-between"-quality illustrations every day, without fail. What's more, assuming you're in the art department of your school, you should be constantly applying to art competitions and such.

Not only do you need to have those qualifications, you need to have the personal drive and physical strength that is demanded of a craftsman. Even if you somehow did manage to make your dream a reality without these things, you wouldn't be able to advance your career past in-betweening. You would find yourself overworked in a sea of others trying hard just to stay afloat. I can't recommend that.

You may have considered going to a specialty school. But I need to tell you that it is virtually impossible to turn that experience into a job. If you're considering being a manga artist and have penned a dojinshi, that's a hobby; it isn't training for work in the industry. "But I could use Comiket as a springboard to turn pro," you might be thinking here. The fact is, that isn't just about how good your illustrations are. It's about having the editorial sense to turn your comic into a proper product. That know-how isn't the sort of thing that can be developed in a classroom or with a test. You're venturing into a very strict world where the only thing that matters is "does it sell or doesn't it." If you want to know more about it, please read Naoki Karasawa's Manga Gokudo ("The Extreme Way of Manga"). It is extremely true to life, and shows that even if you do become a manga artist, continuing to make a living at it requires all sorts of effort and sacrifice. Only those who are capable of doing that are capable of making a living by drawing.

If after reading this you find yourself saying "but I still want to do it," that isn't desire. You need to know IN YOUR BONES that you are willing to STRUGGLE to do this, that you're willing to starve before taking another kind of job. Desire alone isn't enough for a job that requires you to have the facility in a wide range of styles to draw hundreds of illustrations of a certain quality within a certain timeframe. As a freelancer there's the fear of never knowing when the next job is coming in, meaning you have to put your all into whatever comes your way, meaning you don't have any real control over what you're working on. You can always take a job at a studio, but only those with the drive and physical strength to do the same thing in the same place over and over again for a decade or more on end can make it there. This is why I'm telling you you're better off going to school and becoming an office lady.

That's all I can tell you, speaking as someone with experience in the matter. If you still feel like you want to pursue a career in art, the important thing is to take the style you plan to work in -- whether it's design, nihonga, oil painting, pen and ink, pencil, whatever -- and practice doing it every single day. Universities will have practical tests, so you will need to push yourself to do at least three drawings a day. When working in pen, you need to get yourself to the level where you can easily crosshatch freehand. This is the level of ability that is already being demanded of you, Miyuri, so there's no time to waste with simple "desire."
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blackie toy said:
but the world of today requires a lot more finesse than he's capable of producing.
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☝ Exactly this.

Never mind the lack of preparation, integrity, objectivity, or ethics, what prospective employers are really going to notice is a complete lack of sound judgment for no good reason. That he continues to give no clear, good justification for his actions does not bode well. Employers do not need the kind of trouble that employees like that bring with them.

I really hope for Mr. Baron's sake he doesn't have any significant student loans.
 
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hemolyzer said:
The autism is coming from inside the house ! ! !
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Looks like this is the place to be for a front row seat to the lolcow-SJW war that is clearly going to inevitably happen. If only because this forum is full of grizzled internet asshole flamewar veterans who know how to deal with the shit from both sides.
 
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Reuben G. Baron's ouevre, dubbed Book Girl is an unfortunate attempt to take his own wishes of standing out and place them on the back of a painfully-written awkward bookish woman. The writing is poor at best, and the cinematography—and I am using that word charitably—is hackish. The cast does its best to perform this kafkaesque work, but it categorically fails to deliver. While we hardly expect quality in submissions to the NY International Children's Film Fest these days, Baron's work is a cut below even that sad standard.
 
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Broseph Stalin said:
Hey @Hunter S. Tutter , why do you stutter so much like a sniveling little rat? Is it because of an accident? Were you born with it? Did you develop it from jacking off to hentai for weeks on end? Because if it was one of the first two, well, my condolences. <3
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He only seems to stutter like K-k-k-ken from A Fish Called Wanda when he's being assfucked by his moral superiors. If you noticed, when he was just talking to himself when Jace was gone for a moment, he stopped stuttering. Or maybe he just stutters when he's lying.
 
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AnOminous said:
He only seems to stutter like K-k-k-ken from A Fish Called Wanda when he's being assfucked by his moral superiors. If you noticed, when he was just talking to himself when Jace was gone for a moment, he stopped stuttering. Or maybe he just stutters when he's lying.
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So basically, Reuben G. Baron is a bad poker player. He has many obvious tells.
 
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Reuben G. Baron also known as Glavin, formerly of Boston, Massachusetts now attending Bard College in New York, do you expect us to think you're better than Jace's superior wolfkin?
 
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Reuben G. Baron also known as Glavin, formerly of Boston, Massachusetts now attending Bard College in New York, do you expect us to think you're better than Jace's superior wolfkin?
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Jesus fucking Christ. I'm actually horrified I wasn't surprised that those things exist, if only because I knew about them from a discussion about a story on a different forum involving a dude telling a catgirl cosplayer (who he swore had moving ears) something about "touch fluffy tail" and - inexplicably - she stomped on his feet with steel-toe boots and broke three of his toes.

But that Hetalia shirt? Fuckin A...
 
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