Science Kiwifarms cited as source of "Coordinated Hate Attacks" directed at YouTube videos - "You Know What to Do"

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“You Know What to Do”: Proactive Detection of YouTube Videos Targeted by Coordinated Hate Attacks

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"Also note that /pol/, though a very good example of a tightknit community used to coordinate and disrupt other social groups, is not the only community responsible for performing raids against YouTube videos. Other Web communities, e.g,. Reddit [54] or Kiwi Farms [20] also regularly take part in raiding activity"
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As part of future work, we plan to use deep-learning methods to fuse audio, video, and metadata into a single classifier. We also plan to look into raids from other communities, such as Reddit, Gab.ai, and Kiwi Farms.
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Finally, it might perhaps be tempting to dismiss the relatively low occurrence of raids, vis-a-vis the number of ` YouTube videos posted every day, as being a niche problem. On the contrary, harassment and bullying on YouTube are widely recognized as a serious issue by authorities on the matter [47], and news reports are filled with ghastly stories [50] and advice on how to deal with hateful and harassing YouTube comments in particular [15, 26].
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https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.08168
http://archive.fo/Z3rXW

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1805.08168.pdf
 

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neger psykolog said:
Well to be clear on one thing which some people seem to be missing, the point of the paper isn't so much about at what "causes" attacks but rather building an algorithm/system to detect videos which are likely to be "raided":
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I'd have to read the entire thing to fully understand it, but just wanted to make the point about what the paper is primarily about.

However its still funny that they call KF a source of these "raids":
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One thing I'm not clear on is whether the source of the attacks is actually important/relevant to their research or if they purely went through YouTube videos and used their own classification of what they consider to be a "raid".

If "raids" aren't caused by external parties then they're not actually raids and all this machine learning system does is detect videos which are likely to trigger autism on the internet. If that's the case then it still may be impressive (if it actually even exists beyond being just a research paper).

(again I'd have to read the entire thing to speak more on it, but I'm just throwing my thoughts out there)

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The usage of keywords on videos is interesting and I did speed read past a part which mentioned using auto captioning services. This is actually interesting as its something
I experimented with on DarksydePhil's streams. He usually rambles on for like a fucking solid hour every day, so I started using automatically generated subtitle files to determine what shit he was talking about each day... something like this:
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Based upon that you could tell when he was sperging about particular topics, so it stands to reason that by identifying the content of a video itself or even the outward-facing content (just the title/thumbnail/keywords) you could recognize videos which are likely to experience bouts of autism.

Google already uses similar concepts to identify videos which would be problematic for advertisers.
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They will teach the machine how to recognize terminal autism. In the future, parents will have to upload a video of their child to YouTube to get a diagnosis.
 
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Incredible Crisis said:
Raids? What is this, Something Awful circa 2003?

I thought this forum was an observation-and-commentary one, not one where we get our hands dirty. That's for the lolcows to do to themselves.

Yet another research paper that throws this site in there as a source without actually knowing what it does.
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A culture war is factional. Distinctions don't matter and neither does nuance. It also needs to be remembered that the intersectional types (the ones behind this shitty paper) are the aggressors in the culture war. Their goal is to either coopt or destroy institutions they feel are a threat to what they perceive as good and just in the world.

4chan absolutely launched raids on YouTube as part of their participation in the culture war. Kiwifarms, while not an active attacking force is a den of problematic opinions, and the information we archive around here is super double bad for preventing upstanding and progressively oppressed transsxuals like Wu from reaching the halls of power in Congress. Thus we are also an enemy institution, that if we cannot be coopted (obviously) must therefore be destroyed.

The strange thing is? Had this website been around in the 90's pretty much everyone here would most likely have been shitting on crazy evangelicals, closeted homosexual republicans pretending to not have "the gay" and attention whore women who got to have bad sex with the President. It is a testament to the times that this website, which I would argue is actually anarchistic (no rules at all, man) is considered a den of right wing authoritarian fascists.
 
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True, but it's stupid to act like their little raiding parties are somehow being led and organized by "the community". One of our strengths (and weaknesses) is that we represent the whole bloody spectrum. Of course you'll have some people who would get together and "raid" YT videos. Doesn't mean that's everyone here, or that Null or anyone else worth mentioning is behind it.
 
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repentance said:
If this is the quality of their "research", I don't like their employment prospects.

There are a ton of things we do which hurt people's feels but mass youtube comments isn't one of them.
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What makes that mass comment shit funny: if they try to link us all to them by name, anyone could go on Youtube and call themselves Null, Alan Pardew, and other assorted Kiwi handles.

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On the contrary, we make a great target for being an internet boogeyman. We're large, well-know, and harmless. The media salivates over attacking stuff like that in unison and leaving actual threats to stay in the dark.
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We're a good scapegoat and the like. People will no doubt blow up and overexaggerate all the threads we got. And then there's the failed shooter and the shooter that was cucked by a couch. They could try to link us all to them even if what we did in the end was laugh at one while literally saying rest in piss to the other.
 
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