KiwiFlare

mindlessobserver said:
They wouldn't have a case because the only common thing in the branding is the word "Flare", which is a common english word that cannot be trademarked. It would be like "Home Depot" trying to trademark the word "Home". Not happening. The legal standard of trademark infringement is branding and packaging that would reasonably cause the consumer to not know which company provided the product.
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It's not that simple. A common word can be trademarked when it's unrelated to the subject. E.g. "Apple" is a common English word but it can also be a trademark because Apple™️ has nothing to do with apples.

"Cloud" has a pretty obvious connection to computing services, so you'd be pretty safe in coming up with a name that includes "cloud," but I don't see any real connection between the meaning of "flare" and the services that Cloudflare provides. I think the analysis for this would probably hinge more upon whether "KiwiFlare" is sufficiently different from "Cloudflare" that it wouldn't cause confusion. If people see it as a competitor to Cloudflare, rather than thinking it's Cloudflare itself or part of Cloudflare, then it's not causing confusion.
Ted Kaczynski said:
You are probably right. Also Home Depot and Office Depot share the same last word in their name. Even if cloudflare decided to screech over this, there is nothing about the logo or name that is even remotely similar to theirs, other than “flare”.
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"Depot" means a storage facility, which is sufficiently close to a store (a place you go to get stuff you need) that it almost certainly couldn't be trademarked for that purpose until you combine it with something that makes it sufficiently unique that it's not a simply descriptive name. If you can show that you're the only store calling yourself the Home Depot, you'd probably get to trademark it.
 
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Dumpster dived waifu said:
I honestly hope that KiwiFlare received complaints from trannies complaining that it's protecting known dozing/harassment/swatting website KiwiFarms and needs to drop support for them or face 3am phone calls to their girlfriends and/or wives.
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I feel like that already happened starting with 1776Hosting getting all those complaints...with nobody realizing who was in charge of 1776Hosting.

Abyssal Bulwark said:
As crazy as this sounds, if the Viet Cong and the Taliban taught us anything, it's that you can defeat your much more powerful enemy by just not giving up.

Rhodesians Kiwis never die.
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Ironically, the same lesson doesn't work for those trying to take down the farms, since almost every single time the farms reaches a point where it's down more times than up, the aggressive party seems to believe they're fucking invincible and they go after bigger targets. Which leads to failure and the eventual breaking up of the clout the leader of the aggression had amassed.

Meanwhile, the farms simply comes right back up with new defenses despite the opposite side claiming that the site was "finally" shut down.
 
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nice work jersh things seem to be running smoothly on my end so far. i will say though i am pretty interested to see how much effort these troons are willing to put into taking the site down. there has to be a point eventually where they just give up simply because they lack the tools needed to get past a wall. this might just be me being optimistic but i think that point is getting closer and closer as the days go by.
 
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Kosher Salt said:
It's not that simple. A common word can be trademarked when it's unrelated to the subject. E.g. "Apple" is a common English word but it can also be a trademark because Apple™️ has nothing to do with apples.

"Cloud" has a pretty obvious connection to computing services, so you'd be pretty safe in coming up with a name that includes "cloud," but I don't see any real connection between the meaning of "flare" and the services that Cloudflare provides. I think the analysis for this would probably hinge more upon whether "KiwiFlare" is sufficiently different from "Cloudflare" that it wouldn't cause confusion. If people see it as a competitor to Cloudflare, rather than thinking it's Cloudflare itself or part of Cloudflare, then it's not causing confusion.

"Depot" means a storage facility, which is sufficiently close to a store (a place you go to get stuff you need) that it almost certainly couldn't be trademarked for that purpose until you combine it with something that makes it sufficiently unique that it's not a simply descriptive name. If you can show that you're the only store calling yourself the Home Depot, you'd probably get to trademark it.
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Got it, Josh should call his service “KiwiDepot” instead
 
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Josh has said on poast he's considering a name change if/when it's available for others to use, but that's down the road:
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https://poa.st/notice/ASD5xlgMz5KAE5iQrI / a

Maybe Mura or MuraGuard? Mura is Italian for walls, but also Japanese for gathering and variations, unevenness, and has some adopted meanings in English, including:
"A form of waste, or deviation from optimal allocation of resources, that occurs when inventory is required but not immediately available."
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mura
EDIT: Shit, easy pun! Moora, would be pronounced the same, but a pun on (lol)cows. Less name collisions, seems to only be a town in Australia. Also, kinda sounds like a He-man hero/villain.
 
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Abyssal Bulwark said:
As crazy as this sounds, if the Viet Cong and the Taliban taught us anything, it's that you can defeat your much more powerful enemy by just not giving up.
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That only works when total genocide isn't the goal, which isn't the case here. Still, it's a nice thought.
 
Will this be implemented on the TOR site? I’m still seeing the old bot page and I’ve never been able to get passed a WebAssembly error, even on the lowest security settings.

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Kosher Salt said:
"Cloud" has a pretty obvious connection to computing services, so you'd be pretty safe in coming up with a name that includes "cloud," but I don't see any real connection between the meaning of "flare" and the services that Cloudflare provides. I think the analysis for this would probably hinge more upon whether "KiwiFlare" is sufficiently different from "Cloudflare" that it wouldn't cause confusion. If people see it as a competitor to Cloudflare, rather than thinking it's Cloudflare itself or part of Cloudflare, then it's not causing confusion.
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Flares are defensive countermeasures used by aircraft to defend against missiles. Therefore flare is a valid metaphor for DDOS mitigation.
 
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