Lolcow Kody Aaron Walters / Twisted Graphix / Venom - A demented drug addicted pornographer's adventures on the "Mad at the Internet" discord server and beyond.

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No, I’m aware of his other accounts. As you said, I assumed that he’d be less active on them given the dox.

If i was gonna guess i would figure he will be active first (other than discord) on his Twitter account. He often posts gold there. But half the fun is really just following the arcs in Discord. But for those that can't do that, we'll just build the stories of what he is up to here for others to watch.
 
If i was gonna guess i would figure he will be active first (other than discord) on his Twitter account. He often posts gold there. But half the fun is really just following the arcs in Discord. But for those that can't do that, we'll just build the stories of what he is up to here for others to watch.
Some of the Discord stuff was quite mundane to a certain degree. But when it wasn’t mundane, shit happened.
 
As for the Voice Chat recordings of him sperging out on Discord, there is 11 hours of it and its mostly timestamped but not done yet or put in OP in order to not clog it up.
Perhaps if OP briefly summarized things which don't require a great deal of textual real estate, there would be ample room to post actual content. Like here is a problem that makes the thread difficult to read for me.

Following the aftermath of the Kiwifarms movie night discord getting yeeted off the internet there was a concern the same would happen to the Mad At The Internet server. Many of the most active members sought refuge in a server set up by a member called BugsAreCute. The atmosphere of the community rapidly changed to one of hostility due to two primary factors. First, Bugs’ server had a gacha game for anime waifus, which caused untold torrents of autistic shit-flinging. Second, and arguably most importantly, was Bugs’ terrible administration of the server. Her boyfriend, Justin, was a normie, and displeased with the invasion of kiwis into his server and his life. The pair were arbitrary and petty. As a result, the kiwis were displeased with their new home. Unfortunately, the autism magnet of the waifu game kept regulars invested in the server, so few if any were interested in remedying this circumstance.

Despite the frequent clashes over moderation and waifu games, the community continued on, with Twisted being frequently found in VC once again. By this time he began seeking ways to monitized his talent. Naturally, he started a patreon, which was unsuccessful due to his inability to market himself. He devised a scheme to fix that by gaining notoriety through Ethan Ralph at a time in which is show was already in freefall. Entering the Ralph Retort discord he found it populated by a group of trolls known as plate gang, who began interrogating him due to his connection with Polly.

After successfully drawing their attention due to his unending powerleveling and proclivity to anger plate gang began digging into him. They quickly found face pics which he had freely posted on the Mad at the Internet discord, which they handed off to Corey Barnhill aka Zoom. Zoom then proceeded to facedox Twisted on a stream. Twisted, who had previously affirmed the pictures were indeed of him, began claiming that the pictures were not of him but of a friend “who they really shouldn’t mess with.” He began claiming that he had friends and relatives in the intelligence community, and that if plate gang tried pursuing any leads on the mysterious man in the picture they would regret it. Later, he would once again admit that it was his face.

Following a number of clashes over moderation and waifus, many people began abandoning Bugs’ server to return to Mad at the Internet. One member who left was Polly, who left due to a plate gang lurker and trap known as RaceCarJohnny. After she left, Twisted reached out to her in order to try to convince her to return. When Twisted’s attempt was rebuffed, he quickly returned to Bug’s server and began complaining loudly and vociferously to anyone who would listen. After being called out for lying that Polly was talking shit about a user named Cyberbully, the VC began to dogpile Twisted as he descended into an alcohol induced mania. In a fit of rage, Twisted released Bugs and her boyfriend’s dox.

Four paragraphs which could be summed up in 3 sentences and only a few bits of content to support this essay within an essay. And this is just an example. Brevity is essential.

Unless you are on Discord i don't know what to tell you.
That is a major red flag though. How can he only be a cow when he's on discord? Like the guy was aleady smart enough to have his FB completely locked down. I reviewed his 540 posts on twitter and nothing special. You seem to be making the case that he just shitposts and vc's on discord.

This info has already been shared a long time ago in the dox posted by Plate in the MATI discord before Kody's ban. It included more such as phone numbers and addresses and personal photos etc. Its the reason he got banned in the first place. Attracting groups of people to watch him sperg. Everything is compiled and backed up but not posted in the OP yet.

If you guys have this info, then wouldn't it have been a better use of space to post it than some story about Jerry the Race Car Driver, Bugs Bunny and some discord that has like almost nothing to do with the guy?

Currently there are 427 people online in the Mad At The Internet discord at this moment vs 310 members online on KF.
He is banned from MATI and if he's banned from MATI, there's no way to get content from him there. Personal anecdotes of interactions with a guy don't make for compelling threads. It can be juicy material to support threads but it seems like that is a lot of what is in OP and even more of what we should expect in the future.

Also, rough drafts aren't a great idea. Getting your ducks in a row privately is wise because now the cow knows you're hunting and he prob has a lot of shit you didn't find because, even as you say, there is a lot not yet uncovered.
 
Perhaps if OP briefly summarized things which don't require a great deal of textual real estate, there would be ample room to post actual content. Like here is a problem that makes the thread difficult to read for me.



Four paragraphs which could be summed up in 3 sentences and only a few bits of content to support this essay within an essay. And this is just an example. Brevity is essential.


That is a major red flag though. How can he only be a cow when he's on discord? Like the guy was aleady smart enough to have his FB completely locked down. I reviewed his 540 posts on twitter and nothing special. You seem to be making the case that he just shitposts and vc's on discord.



If you guys have this info, then wouldn't it have been a better use of space to post it than some story about Jerry the Race Car Driver, Bugs Bunny and some discord that has like almost nothing to do with the guy?


He is banned from MATI and if he's banned from MATI, there's no way to get content from him there. Personal anecdotes of interactions with a guy don't make for compelling threads. It can be juicy material to support threads but it seems like that is a lot of what is in OP and even more of what we should expect in the future.

Also, rough drafts aren't a great idea. Getting your ducks in a row privately is wise because now the cow knows you're hunting and he prob has a lot of shit you didn't find because, even as you say, there is a lot not yet uncovered.

Pretty much my initial point from before. Discord works either for entire servers being filled with cows, or a single cow's messages acting as supplementary material for their online behavior. Even with all the other accounts available, having it be the main focus seems very limited in scope.

I could see some (not all) of this info being dropped on an existing thread, like something related to MATI's discord. Though might be too specific for it, idk.
 
Perhaps if OP briefly summarized things which don't require a great deal of textual real estate, there would be ample room to post actual content. Like here is a problem that makes the thread difficult to read for me.



Four paragraphs which could be summed up in 3 sentences and only a few bits of content to support this essay within an essay. And this is just an example. Brevity is essential.


That is a major red flag though. How can he only be a cow when he's on discord? Like the guy was aleady smart enough to have his FB completely locked down. I reviewed his 540 posts on twitter and nothing special. You seem to be making the case that he just shitposts and vc's on discord.



If you guys have this info, then wouldn't it have been a better use of space to post it than some story about Jerry the Race Car Driver, Bugs Bunny and some discord that has like almost nothing to do with the guy?


He is banned from MATI and if he's banned from MATI, there's no way to get content from him there. Personal anecdotes of interactions with a guy don't make for compelling threads. It can be juicy material to support threads but it seems like that is a lot of what is in OP and even more of what we should expect in the future.

Also, rough drafts aren't a great idea. Getting your ducks in a row privately is wise because now the cow knows you're hunting and he prob has a lot of shit you didn't find because, even as you say, there is a lot not yet uncovered.


"How can he only be a cow when he's on discord?"

Depends. If you want i can go and find plenty of examples of people on the farms who aren't lolcows at all and still passed.
Is Kay someone to follow outside of Youtube?
What about Slazo, Is he a cow?

Here is the thing. Maybe someone feels more comfortable sperging out on what they see as a semi private place instead of in public?
Does that make him not a cow cause some people don't want to get a discord account?
I've already added an invite link to Flamenco's channel where he is active in a post in the body.
If not everyone can get access to him, does that make him less of a cow tho?

Of course we know he would lock down everything. That happened when he was doxed and when Josh called him out personally on a livestream to thousands of people.
Happened way before the thread went up. I know i tried to save what i could of what we didn't have after that.
It was working against the clock tho since it came without us knowing.
I see a lot has not been posted in the OP tho. That should be fixed.
Maybe the revised version will be better.

"Four paragraphs which could be summed up in 3 sentences and only a few bits of content to support this essay within an essay. And this is just an example. Brevity is essential."

Its a lot to read. Alright. I can see that. I didn't write the OP but if you want more context OP can probably post more screenshots and logs.

"He is banned from MATI and if he's banned from MATI, there's no way to get content from him there"

True. But i already posted a link to Flamenco's discord saying you can find him there.
Its a little to go out of your way tho. I see that

"Personal anecdotes of interactions with a guy don't make for compelling threads "

Fair enough. If you believe so. The thread can probably be changed to include more screenshots, audio, video etc.
Will be more to read tho. But probably a good idea. I've handed off all i have.
But as i said, a lot is not in the OP. Which is odd. Will probably add more now that there is feedback.
The 11 hours of audio is almost completely timestamped but not everything is interesting so it should be sorted.
This is more work than just going to youtube and put a bunch of links in the OP.
Or summarize already done investigations.

Its a different kind of thread. Its about one who was part of the community but fell out, became a cow and got kicked out and even brought up on stream by Josh. Also Josh giving the greenlight to make a thread on him must mean there is something here. Prob more screens to reflect that would be good.

"Also, rough drafts aren't a great idea. Getting your ducks in a row privately is wise because now the cow knows you're hunting and he prob has a lot of shit you didn't find because, even as you say, there is a lot not yet uncovered. "

Fair.
And as i said, i am pretty sure the being banned, Josh publicly giving the greenlight to thread him and pulling him up on stream has a done more than them posting a thread in Proving Grounds.
Thats just me tho.


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@Burning Fanatic faggot.
 
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@Burning Fanatic faggot.

Classy.

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Depends. If you want i can go and find plenty of examples of people on the farms who aren't lolcows at all and still passed. Probably because (((someone))) put their nose up the ass of the mods.
Is Kay someone to follow outside of Youtube? Or if Youtube special? Is it a redflag?
What about Slazo? Is he a cow?


Here is the thing. Maybe someone feels more comfortable sperging out on what they see as a semi private place instead of in public?
Does that make him not a cow cause some people can't be assed to get a discord account?
I've already added an invite link to Flamenco's channel where he is active in a post in the body.
If not everyone can get access to him, does that make him less of a cow?

Unlike Discord where you have to be in the relevant servers + find old messages that haven't been deleted, YouTube's open for anyone to view the videos being put out.

And not every single individual with a thread has to be a "cow" that's funny to laugh at. Slazo's thread in particular is more about the drama surrounding him than him doing dumb shit. If you want to complain that it's not titled/labeled properly, you're free to bring it up with staff. Cause I already did before.
 
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Unlike Discord where you have to be in the relevant servers + find old messages that haven't been deleted, YouTube's open for anyone to view the videos being put out.

And not every single individual with a thread has to be a "cow" that's funny to laugh at. Slazo's thread in particular is more about the drama surrounding him than him doing dumb shit. If you want to complain that it's not titled/labeled properly, you're free to bring it up with staff. Cause I already did before.

Sure. You have to go out of your way to find it. But does it make him less of a cow?
The problem raised was "Is he somewhere else other than discord? Is he only being a cow there?"
Which has nothing to do with open platform or not. I might have understood the issue brought up wrong tho.
But it was an answer to this
"That is a major red flag though. How can he only be a cow when he's on discord?"
How can some only be a cow on youtube?
Twitter?
etc.

If Slazo is one minor part in a big machine, i can take from what you said here
"I could see some (not all) of this info being dropped on an existing thread, like something related to MATI's discord. Though might be too specific for it, idk."

But i understand you would take issue with that one since you are revising the thread on that one.
 
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@Burning Fanatic faggot.
This slapfight has nothing to do with adding content as isn't appropriate for a PG thread. Take it back to discord.

Sure. You have to go out of your way to find it. But does it make him less of a cow?
The problem raised was "Is he somewhere else other than discord? Is he only being a cow there?"
Which has nothing to do with open platform or not. I might have understood the issue brought up wrong tho.
But it was an answer to this
"That is a major red flag though. How can he only be a cow when he's on discord?"
How can some only be a cow on youtube?
Twitter?
etc.
You can read someone's tweets, Tumblr blog, or Instagram, or watch their YoutTube channel without having an account on any of those platforms. In addition to this, once the account is found, it isn't hard to follow. The issue is that discord is much harder to track and follow. Followers of someone who is a cow exclusively on discord can easily lose track, others might not be able to follow so well, and things are nearly impossible to archive and verify. Servers come and go on a moment's notice and accounts are routinely banned or deleted.
 
This slapfight has nothing to do with adding content as isn't appropriate for a PG thread. Take it back to discord.

Yeah, my bad.


You can read someone's tweets, Tumblr blog, or Instagram, or watch their YoutTube channel without having an account on any of those platforms

True. Unless the accounts are locked. And since when did "You have to have an account" turn into reason enough to torpedo a thread?

The issue is that discord is much harder to track and follow. Followers of someone who is a cow exclusively on discord can easily lose track, others might not be able to follow so well, and things are nearly impossible to archive and verify. Servers come and go on a moment's notice and accounts are routinely banned or deleted.

Sure it might be hard to follow, but does that make him less of a cow? Isn't that just more reason for those who can follow it to post it here so its easier to find and see?

"nearly impossible to archive" is a lie. There are several archive tools not including screenshots.

One of these is called DiscordChatExporter. It can export entire servers. Its pretty cool and can be found Here
The negative is that it does not download pictures or any information other than text. For pictures etc it uses the Discord servers. So if the picture is deleted and scrubbed from Discord's servers then it will disappear. But you can always back up the pictures easily with a one click tool. But its really good for archiving chat logs

There is also a slightly more complicated script called Discord History Tracker which can be found Here
I have not tried this one much but i tried it enough to know it works to archive chat logs.

There are also bots but those can only be used in server where you have high enough access.

Servers do come and go. So does accounts and they are banned and deleted. That is true. But are accounts not banned on twitter? youtube?
Are accounts on these places not deleted out of the blue or locked down either by the platform or the cows? Can they not change their @ and go dark? And even if there would be no more spergery, should we not post what there has been?

There are a lot of valuable feedback in how to structure the OP and how to revise it, but the "Its Discord and its too hard and their accounts can be banned" sound like a really poor reasoning and really scraping the barrel imo.

That is ignoring that it was not his problem to begin with.
I'll quote again.

How can he only be a cow when he's on discord?

And i answered that with: it is a semi private platform where he feels/felt comfortable and he is the most active there.

Sorry for the wall of text.

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Okay man, here is the deal. When you have a cow where only you or a select few people have access to the content, then a larger sample is helpful for the audience. There is a huge difference between me being able to pop over to @zjemptv on twitter to see what Zinnia is popping off about or ctomeez0013 on YouTube to see what Tooter is doing today. As it stands, this OP has 8 caps of him from discord and these caps include him saying shit like "vc is lit", saying he is gonna drop acid, that hes gonna block some sped trying to be a boss in a discord server, being pervy with a hot tranny, posting a link?, and a few other unfunny snips.

IF THIS NIGGER IS A LOLCOW AND HIS MAIN LOL COMES FROM FUCKING DISCORD WHY ARE NOT NOT POSTING THE LOL? THIS IS BANAL AS FUCK.

OP comes in like a brick shithouse with textwalls that would make @Jaimas say "lolcalmdown" describing how this guy is the literal next Chris-Chan but never delivers. The guy does weird art, but it isn't bad enough or cringy enough to move a needle. There are pix of the dude, but he's not like a bad looking guy, you should see half of our users. If you think that cigarette and beercan mess is something, you should see @emspex' room when she finishes bingewatching Batman: The Animated Series.

Then to top it all off, this guy has a crew of twolls that follow him around and this is the best you could get out of him? An OP is where you bring the A-game. All I see is excuses like "this is a rough draft" and throwing null under the bus saying he said we could make the thread. There isn't a problem with making a thread, just all I am hearing is the best stuff is being sat on and that this garbage was just shoveled out to toss up a draft.

Drop the best stuff you got, because as it stands the shit ive seen in OP and subsequent posts won't encourage interest.
 
To address the very reasonable criticism that making a thread on this kind of cow makes it hard to follow their adventures in real time: That's the impetus of this thread. I think we're going to see more and more cows, ones that aren't easy to follow but are worthy of following, in the future. Having a central repository of their ments seems like the logical answer to that problem. Just because a cow exists on a new platform, and the nature of that platform changes the way people have to follow their exploits shouldn't exclude them from being worthy of a thread. There are already a lot of people in this thread who had interacted with Twisted in one way or another that wanted the lore, and this was the best way to provide it to them.

In regards to the narrative aspect of the OP, it seemed like the most reasonable way to introduce new people to how he operates, since it covers almost every aspect. The source material I had to work from was extensive, and I had to pair down quite a bit. I'll warn you now though, there's a whole hell of a lot of media. Just the audio logs and their summaries could very easily quadruple the already very long OP.

In terms of embeds and whatnot, I am but a humble newfag. I'll try to add more media in the appropriate formats.
 
In regards to the narrative aspect of the OP, it seemed like the most reasonable way to introduce new people to how he operates, since it covers almost every aspect. The source material I had to work from was extensive, and I had to pair down quite a bit. I'll warn you now though, there's a whole hell of a lot of media. Just the audio logs and their summaries could very easily quadruple the already very long OP.

Even with more source material being added, that doesn't improve the OP. As was brought up before, it's best to cut things down and simplify in a few sentences rather than stretch it out to a few paragraphs.

And for a newfag, you've definitely done a better job than most people with formatting your OP.
 
Okay man, here is the deal. When you have a cow where only you or a select few people have access to the content, then a larger sample is helpful for the audience. There is a huge difference between me being able to pop over to @zjemptv on twitter to see what Zinnia is popping off about or ctomeez0013 on YouTube to see what Tooter is doing today. As it stands, this OP has 8 caps of him from discord and these caps include him saying shit like "vc is lit", saying he is gonna drop acid, that hes gonna block some sped trying to be a boss in a discord server, being pervy with a hot tranny, posting a link?, and a few other unfunny snips.

IF THIS NIGGER IS A LOLCOW AND HIS MAIN LOL COMES FROM FUCKING DISCORD WHY ARE NOT NOT POSTING THE LOL? THIS IS BANAL AS FUCK.

OP comes in like a brick shithouse with textwalls that would make @Jaimas say "lolcalmdown" describing how this guy is the literal next Chris-Chan but never delivers. The guy does weird art, but it isn't bad enough or cringy enough to move a needle. There are pix of the dude, but he's not like a bad looking guy, you should see half of our users. If you think that cigarette and beercan mess is something, you should see @emspex' room when she finishes bingewatching Batman: The Animated Series.

Then to top it all off, this guy has a crew of twolls that follow him around and this is the best you could get out of him? An OP is where you bring the A-game. All I see is excuses like "this is a rough draft" and throwing null under the bus saying he said we could make the thread. There isn't a problem with making a thread, just all I am hearing is the best stuff is being sat on and that this garbage was just shoveled out to toss up a draft.

Drop the best stuff you got, because as it stands the shit ive seen in OP and subsequent posts won't encourage interest.

Fair enough. But its funny how hard you are being on this thread seeing what other stuff passes.
Suddenly it has to be the most autistic, the most dirty room, be the most cringy, have the most screen caps and to bring the "A" game.
And i didn't make the OP. I am just saying you are being unreasonably hard on it

I've already stated the OP should have more stuff in it and should probably be revised and i managed to do that without writing in all caps.

I said there is more being worked on but i figured it would be okay for them to post it in the body when it was done like in most threads.
Since others can shovel shit into a thread and get it to pass while others have to "find the next chris chan"
Is the type of shit that makes all of this confusing.
And since when did a random poster (me) who is not the OP have any say in if you accept the OP or not?
I said things are being worked on. Not sat on.
 
And i didn't make the OP. I am just saying you are being unreasonably hard on it
I think that the crux of the problem is not really the OP being badly written. It's mostly what you are putting on the table that shows that this thread will not survive for long even if it was approved.

I actually have no doubt that you guys find this dude hilarious and that he's a cow to you guys. But that's the problem: it's a personal cow. You will only find the cow funny if you were there for everything given the nature of the cow only posting on discord, and the fact that everything that was supposed to be funny were anecdotes and personal interactions with the cow. That's also a red flag because for all you know, once you stop interacting with the cow, you have no content to show to the thread (nothing notable on Twitter or any social media). This cow does not sustain itself, and that in itself makes it a really bad cow thread that will inevitably die.
 
That's the impetus of this thread. I think we're going to see more and more cows, ones that aren't easy to follow but are worthy of following, in the future. Having a central repository of their ments seems like the logical answer to that problem. Just because a cow exists on a new platform, and the nature of that platform changes the way people have to follow their exploits shouldn't exclude them from being worthy of a thread. There are already a lot of people in this thread who had interacted with Twisted in one way or another that wanted the lore, and this was the best way to provide it to them.
That's all well and good. I am not trying to persuade anyone to not make a thread on this guy, but I think you should consider a hole in your reasoning here. While I do agree that more cows will begin coming from discord and tools like discord, we cannot rely on narrative as the meat and potatoes of an op. We can't even rely on discord caps for that. The reason being is that those are easy to doctor. Sure someone could do that now, but we are able to keep one another in check by being able to see archives, view public profiles, etc. When a thread is narrative-heavy I start thinking "well, wheres the content to support it?" Then when I look at the content, and here I see content that really doesn't support narrative well, I begin to think "eh, this is just a guy blowing smoke." That makes sense doesn't it? It isn't that discord is new really, it is that the means of establishing validity and reliability are still unknown. With audio and video, which you have a few audio snips in OP, you have that, but they don't really support the thread much, the audio posted is sorta bland.

I am just saying you are being unreasonably hard on it
I really am not. I'm not saying "NOT A LOLCOW", I am saying the evidence brought to the table poorly supports the assertions made in the narrative.
Since others can shovel shit into a thread and get it to pass while others have to "find the next chris chan"
misquoting me here, im saying OP built the guy up to be a massive cow and then failed to deliver.
 
I think that the crux of the problem is not really the OP being badly written. It's mostly what you are putting on the table that shows that this thread will not survive for long even if it was approved.

I actually have no doubt that you guys find this dude hilarious and that he's a cow to you guys. But that's the problem: it's a personal cow. You will only find the cow funny if you were there for everything given the nature of the cow only posting on discord, and the fact that everything that was supposed to be funny were anecdotes and personal interactions with the cow. That's also a red flag because for all you know, once you stop interacting with the cow, you have no content to show to the thread (nothing notable on Twitter or any social media). This cow does not sustain itself, and that in itself makes it a really bad cow thread that will inevitably die.

Fair enough. I can see that.


That's all well and good. I am not trying to persuade anyone to not make a thread on this guy, but I think you should consider a hole in your reasoning here. While I do agree that more cows will begin coming from discord and tools like discord, we cannot rely on narrative as the meat and potatoes of an op. We can't even rely on discord caps for that. The reason being is that those are easy to doctor. Sure someone could do that now, but we are able to keep one another in check by being able to see archives, view public profiles, etc. When a thread is narrative-heavy I start thinking "well, wheres the content to support it?" Then when I look at the content, and here I see content that really doesn't support narrative well, I begin to think "eh, this is just a guy blowing smoke." That makes sense doesn't it? It isn't that discord is new really, it is that the means of establishing validity and reliability are still unknown. With audio and video, which you have a few audio snips in OP, you have that, but they don't really support the thread much, the audio posted is sorta bland.


I really am not. I'm not saying "NOT A LOLCOW", I am saying the evidence brought to the table poorly supports the assertions made in the narrative.

misquoting me here, im saying OP built the guy up to be a massive cow and then failed to deliver.

I see. I understand it better now. Thank you for taking the time to explain. Screenshots can always be faked i know that, but its kinda the best we can do since Josh keeps nuking his Server on an hourly basis. Audio might be able to be paired with screenshots though to at least lend some validity to it.
And i didn't mean to misquote. It was just what i thought you meant. I see what you meant now.
You might not find the audio interesting or funny, but people who remember him and is interested in him, especially from MATI i think will find it interesting and funny. Since there is a good crossover between KF and MATI i think it might be worth giving it another shot and trying to form the thread after the suggestions given so i hope they do that.
 
Some con crit- this is semi-interesting, then gets confusing for those of us who don’t use discord. Suggest drafting the OP to be read by someone who is discord ignorant, or this will only make sense to discord users or people who have used it.
 
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