EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

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One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
Didn't an 80yo woman already get killed when she was closing her windows last week? I think she got hit in the face with a tear gas cannister/grenade. It didn't seem to garner much outrage.
That's a shame but I definitely mean something more like during the protests, something harder to cover up.
 
EU probably forces austerity measures that fuck the working class is my best bet.
yeah, france will have a deficit of 3,4-3,7% of gdp the EU pissed of italy for having 2,4%. germany plans with 0%.
 
Speaking of the supposed raise of the minimum salary starting January 1, 2019, Macron really fucked up. Turns out that said 100e increase already includes the several 30e increases that were promised back in April 2019. So at the end of the day, there isn’t any additional raise (as most people thought), just the stuff that was already promised months ago, which the government confirmed today.

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« Reached out to by FranceInfo, the Presidential Palace has confirmed that the 100e include the raises to the premium of activity already planned (30e in April 2019, 20e in October 2020, and 20e in October 2021). »

So Macron lied by omission, and he’s still most likely fucked.
 
Speaking of the supposed raise of the minimum salary starting January 1, 2019, Macron really fucked up. Turns out that said 100e increase already includes the several 30e increases that were promised back in April 2019. So at the end of the day, there isn’t any additional raise (as most people thought), just the stuff that was already promised months ago, which the government confirmed today.

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« Reached out to by FranceInfo, the Presidential Palace has confirmed that the 100e include the raises to the premium of activity already planned (30e in April 2019, 20e in October 2020, and 20e in October 2021). »

So Macron lied by omission, and he’s still most likely fucked.

Comme un putain au jour de paie, oui.

I bet, though, that the EU won't do anything about the French budget being "illegal" the way they do about the Italian budget. After all, it's the rest of Europe that are supposed to be theirs and the Germans pay pigs.
 
yeah, france will have a deficit of 3,4-3,7% of gdp the EU pissed of italy for having 2,4%. germany plans with 0%.
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I bet, though, that the EU won't do anything about the French budget being "illegal" the way they do about the Italian budget.
They can't. Salvini would go nuts and unleash a completely justified storm against Brussels if they let this slip for Macron.

While Macron was giving his speech, the senate made it easier for rich people to take their money out of France.
This is some next-level incompetence. The thing about the "lie by ommission" about the minimum wage is bad enough, but this is almost like they rehearsed it.
 
I haven't been paying as much attention to the situation as I should have, so forgive me, but I'm confused. I thought a significant portion of the yellow jackets were private-sector employees who make above minimum wage. So why, when Macron sees these people rioting because of his artificial gas hikes, is his idea of a fix to turn to a completely separate group of people and give them a fake raise? Am I missing something here?
 
I haven't been paying as much attention to the situation as I should have, so forgive me, but I'm confused. I thought a significant portion of the yellow jackets were private-sector employees who make above minimum wage. So why, when Macron sees these people rioting because of his artificial gas hikes, is his idea of a fix to turn to a completely separate group of people and give them a fake raise? Am I missing something here?

He postponed the diesel tax hike and they kept going. Macron's not even raising the minimum wage any higher than he was planning to anyway, he's just being a fucking politician.
 
I haven't been paying as much attention to the situation as I should have, so forgive me, but I'm confused. I thought a significant portion of the yellow jackets were private-sector employees who make above minimum wage. So why, when Macron sees these people rioting because of his artificial gas hikes, is his idea of a fix to turn to a completely separate group of people and give them a fake raise? Am I missing something here?

No. You have to understand that Macron is not a normie, has never been a normie, and couldn't understand normies if he tries. He was born into a fairly rich family (his parents were both doctors and his father was a Professor of Neurology so they weren't short a bob or two), went to Lycée Henri IV, and then on to ENA (École Nationale d'Administration, the elite graduate school that a master's degree from is a golden ticket into any government job in France), and worked all his life in government and banking. He therefore believes that government is like tweaking an algorithm, or an engineering problem. A little bribe here, and some tax cuts there, and some extra spending somewhere else, and the gilets jaunes will dissipate into the aether and we shall have a harmonious society.
 
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