EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46233560

One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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Image captionPolice attend as protesters block a motorway in Antibes
"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
Macaroni has the muscle to send the rioters packing. He just doesn't have the balls to do it, as it would ruin his reputation as a wise, enlightened soyboy that he's been trying to cultivate ever since he entered politics.
 
Macaroni has the muscle to send the rioters packing. He just doesn't have the balls to do it, as it would ruin his reputation as a wise, enlightened soyboy that he's been trying to cultivate ever since he entered politics.
He doesn't really, pretty much every cop available was mobilized yesterday, they put regular cops in riot gear (although as a last resort and far away from the action) even though they don't have the experience for this kind of situation and it's quite dangerous for them
 
Huh, funnily enough we had a yellow vest protest of our own here in the Netherlands just yesterday. It was rather uneventful though.

Not surprised this happened in the end, considering the Dutchies had a protest of their own it's only a question of when the other West-European countries are joining in. Whether those protests will be peaceful though...
 
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Huh...time to up your game, Bongistanis. Even the drunken French are more motivated to leave the house.
 
He doesn't really, pretty much every cop available was mobilized yesterday, they put regular cops in riot gear (although as a last resort and far away from the action) even though they don't have the experience for this kind of situation and it's quite dangerous for them
alot of cops are just "ill" at the moment, they dont get payed enough to beat up other normal people.
The protests arent that dangerous atm because they are just angry normal People, not super violent. That can change fast if macaroni has to cancel football games because there isnt enough police left for security.
 
Macron mulls state of emergency after worst unrest in decades

PARIS (Reuters) - President Emmanuel Macron considered declaring a state of emergency as he met security chiefs on Sunday seeking a way out of nationwide protests after rioters turned central Paris into a battle zone and vandalized the Arc de Triomphe monument.

Riot police on Saturday were overwhelmed as protesters ran amok in Paris’ posh neighborhoods, torching dozens of cars, looting boutiques and smashing up luxury private homes and cafes in the worst disturbances the capital has seen since 1968.

The unrest poses the most formidable challenge yet to Macron’s presidency, with the escalating violence and depth of public anger against his economic reforms catching the 40-year-old leader off-guard and battling to regain control.

Arriving back from the G20 summit in Argentina, Macron rushed to the Arc de Triomphe, a revered monument and epicenter of Saturday’s clashes, where protesters had scrawled “Macron resign” and “The yellow vests will triumph”.

The “yellow vest” rebellion erupted out of nowhere on Nov. 17, with protesters blocking roads across France and impeding access to some shopping malls, fuel depots and airports. Violent groups from the far right and far left as well as anarchists infiltrated Saturday’s protests, the authorities said.

Government spokesman Benjamin Griveaux said the Macron administration was considering imposing a state of emergency. The president was open to dialogue, he said, but would not reverse policy reforms.

“We won’t change course. We are certain of that,” he told Europe 1 radio. Asked about imposing a state of emergency, Griveaux said it would be among the options considered.

As he spoke, workmen in the upper-crust district of central Paris set about cleaning the defaced Arc, removing charred hulks of cars and replacing the shattered windows of banks, restaurants and glitzy boutiques. [L8N1Y70AN]

MACRON UNYIELDING
The protests began as a backlash against Macron’s fuel tax hikes - necessary he says to combat climate change - but have mined a vein of deep dissatisfaction felt toward his liberal reforms, which many voters feel favor the wealthy and big business.

Police said they had arrested more than 400 people in Paris on Saturday and that 133 were injured. Some 10,000 tear gas canisters and stun grenades were fired as well as water canon as security forces fought for control.

Macron’s plight illustrates a conundrum: How do political leaders’ introduce policies that will do long-term good for the environment without inflicting extra costs on voters that may damage their chances of re-election?

His unyielding response has exposed him to charges of being out of touch with common folk outside of France’s big cities who worry about the squeeze on household budgets and job security.

The protests have driven Macron’s popularity to record lows and left him facing a lose-lose situation, said Gael Sliman, president of the Odoxa polling institute said.

He said that either Macron caves in to the pressure and is derided by opponents as weak, or he puts down the dissent.

“In the second scenario, Macron will still come out loser, because what everyone will remember is that he wrestled with the popular classes. He would be victorious, but at the cost of having crushed them.”

Before heading into Sunday’s meeting with security chiefs and top aides, Macron met under heavy security with police and firefighters near the Champs Elysees boulevard. Some bystanders cheered, others jeered and called on him to resign.

So too did Jean-Luc Melenchon, head of hard-left party La France Insoumise (France Unbowed) and far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who demanded the government unwind its fuel tax hikes. Both called for parliament to be dissolved and snap elections called.

Such an outcome is unlikely, however. Macron has 3 1/2 years left of his five-year mandate and a strong majority in parliament, albeit with signs of simmering unease on the backbenches over his response to the protests.

TV footage showed the interior of the Arc ransacked, a statue of Marianne, symbol of the French republic, smashed, and graffiti scrawled on the exterior ranging from anti-capitalist slogans to social demands and calls for Macron’s resignation.

On nearby upmarket streets, some Parisians worried of a repeat of the violence next weekend. The yellow vests have already called another demonstration in Paris.

“The violence is increasing at an exponential rate,” said Claude, a well-heeled resident in the affluent 16th district. “The state is losing control, it is scary. They cannot let this happen. Maybe the army should intervene.”

Mes amis, c'est happening (archive.is)?
 
Raising gas prices on purpose has to be one of the most unpopular policies you can implement. It also comes with the dubious claim of saving the eenviroment. What a shitshow.

The environmental angle is bullshit. High petrol prices is crushing on poor people. It also doesn't cause the change in behaviour sought - people won't be priced out of their cars, they'll make do with less in other areas to compensate.
 
The environmental angle is bullshit. High petrol prices is crushing on poor people. It also doesn't cause the change in behaviour sought - people won't be priced out of their cars, they'll make do with less in other areas to compensate.

It also doesn't present a solution to the people who need their vehicle to make a living, a lot who are already living on the breadline. It just makes them even poorer.
 
I saw that article from Reuters who mentionned it was the worst riots since 1968.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ct-after-worst-riots-since-1968-idUSKBN1O10EQ
( http://archive.is/lG0mQ )


PARIS (Reuters) - Workmen cleared away burned hulks of cars, scrubbed the defaced Arc de Triomphe monument and replaced the shattered windows of luxury boutiques in Paris on Sunday after the worst riots in the center of the capital in half a century.

Several thousand riot police were overwhelmed on Saturday as they fought running battles with protesters in the shadows of some of Paris’ fabled landmarks and through its fanciest shopping districts. More than 400 people were arrested and more than 100 injured, shocking Parisians and tourists alike.

At the base of the 19th-century Arc de Triomphe, police kept the public back as cleanup crews set about erasing graffiti, much of it targeting President Emmanuel Macron and some exuding anarchist sentiment such as, “Overthrow the bourgeoisie!”

“I’ve worked on monuments around Paris for 20 years and I’ve never seen anything like this at the Arc de Triomphe. It was carnage,” a Paris City Hall official overseeing the cleanup said as his team worked on a graffito reading “Macron resign”.
 
It also doesn't present a solution to the people who need their vehicle to make a living, a lot who are already living on the breadline. It just makes them even poorer.
This is 10000% underestimated by retarded envirofaggots. What, do you think Jamal and Cleetus (and their french brothers) will stop driving rotted old pickups (and peugots) and buy Teslas? With what money?
 
I think the idea is that they would switch to public transit (buses, trams and the metro), cycling and even walking for shorter trips.

Which sounds great to an urbanite, but falls flat on someone like me who lives 15 miles from the nearest incorporated area.

I can't take a bus, no bus route comes out here

I can't bike or walk , well, I could in a dire emergency, but, for normal everyday things like groceries and doctors visits? Car is the only feasible option to cover 30 round-trip miles with a load. Unless you want me to use a horse, but then we get into the overhead of keeping a horse, who needs food, water, medical treatment, land to graze on, saddle and tack.... and ..... now you see why people use cars, they are machines, they don't get old, they don't get sick, nor tired, and only need $5 of gas to do that very same job.

Once again, the big divide in the politics of the modern era is country/city , the wealthy of the cities are dictating policy based solely on what would affect their tiny little bubbles with no understanding or care about how a massive fuel tax is nothing to a trust fund kid who runs an artisan sandwich shop vs. the farmer trying to grow the bread he uses because the farmer can't plow his fields with a bike or by hand....... he needs gas, no way around it. But since these folk never set foot outside of their gated communities, they don't even question where the bread comes from. (It's a whole foods, so it's "clean" somehow, made from elf farts and rainbows, not actually harvested by filthy MACHINES, is probably the only further they think about it)
 
These protests are heating up and arent going away. Its beginning to seem a lot like Maidan

Update: rumors that protestors have acquired at least one rifle. G36 owned by a security company has been looted. French source below
http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...erobe-par-des-casseurs-01-12-2018-7958616.php

Google translate:
"According to a rumor that circulated the afternoon on social networks, an assault rifle of the police was well stolen by thugs this Saturday, on the sidelines of demonstrations Yellow Vests in Paris.

The weapon, a model HK G36, belongs to a security and intervention company. This was taken close to the station Jena, in the sixteenth district. Some thugs seem to have taken advantage of the confusion caused to steal the rifle. A call on the waves of the police was launched to find the latter."
Probably not a coincidence then that people are reporting gunshots today as well, conspiracy theorists are probably going to claim the report of the stolen G36 was to cover up police firing on the crowd
 
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