EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

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One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
OFFICIAL CHARTER OF YELLOW VESTS

25 propositions to overcome the crisis



Since politicians pretend not to understand the claims of the Yellow Vests. Since the claims of some are far from sufficient to ensure a serious change and perennial change, void a non-exhaustive list but that has a guarantee of results in the long term. We are not naive, the plutocrats in power will do everything to prevent it, but it is nevertheless essential to enforce these few proposals.





I- ECONOMY/LABOR



1. GENERAL CONDITIONS of taxation. Enclose in the constitution the impossibility for the state to collect more than 25% of the wealth of citizens.



2. IMMEDIATE INCREASE of SMIC, pensions and the social minimum by 40%.



3. MASSIVE HIRING of civil servatns to restore the quality of public services before the RGPP: stations, hospitals, schools, posts…



4. HOUSING: plan construiction of 5 million HLM [rent-controlled housing] to lower the rents, the land and revitalize the economy by through hiring. Severely punish the prefects and mayors who leave homeless people sleeping outside.



5. BANKS: make them smaller in order to protect themselves from crises, break monopolies, separate the speculative deposit and prohibit public bailout.



6. CANCEL DEBT: this is not necessary, it has already been reimbursed several times.





II- POLITICS



7. CONSTITUTION: Rewrite a Constitution by the people and for the interests of the sovereign people. Establishment of referendums of popular initiative. Establish referendums of popular initiatives.



8. PROHIBITION OF LOBBYS and other networks of influence. Permanent exclusion from the political life for anyone elected with a judicial record, put an end to the cumulation of the mandates.



9. FREXIT: exit from the EU in order to regain our political ,monetary and economic sovereignty (respect of the referendum of 2005), regain our right to mint money coming out of article 123 ofd the Lisbon Treaty (50 billion euro savings per yer).



10. TAX EVASION: recover the 80 billion euros abandoned by the state each year to the CAC 40. [French SP500]



11. IMMEDIATE END TO PRIVATIZATION and recuperation of public property: motorways, airports, car parks, SNCF… [state railways]



12. SPEED RADARS AND VIDEO VERBALIZATION: withdrawal of useless radars and verbalization video which is nothing but a disguised tax.



13. NATIONAL EDUCATION: to exclude all ideology from this ministry and to stop destructive educational techniques (global method…)



14. JUSTICE: quadruple its budget and limit in law the length of proceedings. Simplify and make justice entirely free and accessible for all.



15. MEDIA: break monopolies and media-political cronyism. Make the media accessible to citizens and guarantee the plurality of opinion. Put an end to the propaganda of the editocrats. Withdraw the public subsidy of the media (2 billion per year) as well as the tax loopholes of the journalists.



16. GUARANTEE the freedom of the citizens and inscribe in the Constitution the prohibition for the State to interfere in the teaching, the education, health, family…





III- HEALTH/ECOLOGY



17. OBSOLESCENCE PROGRAM: to extend manufacturer guarantees to 10 years minimum ensuring the presence of spare parts.



18. PLASTICS: prohibit in the very short term the commercialization of plastic bottles, glasses and other polluting packaging.



19. PHARMACEUTICAL LABORATORIES: to weaken their influence, general states of health and hospitals.



20. AGRICULTURE: ban on GMOs, carcinogenic pesticides, endocrine disruptors, monoculture…



21. REINDUSTRIALIZATION of France in order to eliminate imports and thus pollution.





IV- GEOPOLITICS



22. NATO: immediate exit from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and prohibition to engage the French army in wars of aggression.



23. FRANCFRICA: Stop the looting and the political and military interference. Give the money from dictators and ill-gotten goods to the African people. Immediately repatriate all French soldiers. End the CFA franc system that keeps Africa in poverty. Create equal status with African states.



24. IMMIGRATION: Preventing migratory flows that can not be accomodated or integrated is the profound civilizational crisis we are experiencing.



25. FOREIGN POLICY: scrupulous respect for international law and signed commitments.



These 25 proposals will immediately change the daily life of the French. The simple articles 9 and 10 of this charter can bring up to 130 billion euros per year to the public treasury. France is a rich country, its people valiant and hardworking, it does not have to live in misery.
 
The whole point of the explosive charge in the French tear gas grenades is to discourage rioters from picking them up and throwing them around. This same thing happened with that airport protest some time ago, when one of the environmentalists lost a hand to the same type of grenade. It should be common knowledge for French rioters at this point.
 
The whole point of the explosive charge in the French tear gas grenades is to discourage rioters from picking them up and throwing them around. This same thing happened with that airport protest some time ago, when one of the environmentalists lost a hand to the same type of grenade. It should be common knowledge for French rioters at this point.
Don't know how long that fuse burns, so I guess there's quite a number of people who might manage to pick one up and throw it in time when it lands directly in front of their feet. This guy might have seen it lying about, picked it up and somewhere between that and throwing it, the thing blew up.

The lesson to be learned here is to use a club like a hockey stick rather than risking your hand.
Even kicking it would be a shitty idea, since it can still blow your toes off.

That being said, the guy who lost his hand might not be particularly smart, but holy shit that sucks and I pity him. Seeing him flip the fuck out with his right arm ending in a lump of shredded muscle tissue is really bad.
 
Did he try to throw back a grenade ? What kind of moron does that ?
Well the small tear gas cartridges you can throw back if you wear gloves there's no explosives inside, worst case you'll get a burn but nothing too bad, so people throw those back all day and get used to it, and then you have another kind of grenades : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLI-F4_Grenade which will fuck you up real bad in direct contact, they pick them up thinking it's just the same and lose half or the whole hand when it blows up
 
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I braved the Guardian comments section, toilet of spergery that it is even by other news comment sections, and found this. Citation needed, is all I have to say. @Azovka , any truth to these sorts of allegations?

I do like the shock at how they had the TEMERITY to report illegal immigrants! The monsters! Gasp!

The only one that I can confirm is true is the one where they blockaded a car with a homosexual couple. BUT what that person doesn’t mention is that one of the gays in question was the elected deputee of that province, and that’s the reason they were blocked on their way to the supermarket in the first place. And only then has someone in the crowd said, “Oh I recognise him, he’s a faggot”. That’s about it. They weren’t victims of violence or anything. Their car was just stopped, just like all the other cars, and he was verbally insulted for being an inept politician.

Then you have had incidents where a white Yellow Vest woman was telling a black car driver to “return to your country”. But that sort of thing is just an isolated incident. With a moment this large, it’s completely normal to see people of all stripes and political spectrums in the streets. If anything, it’s condemnable that we haven’t had more of these incidents given the scale of the protests.

As for reporting illegal migrants, personally, I see nothing wrong with that. I’m a migrant myself, and had to go through countless hoops and lines at the Préfecture (French Ministry of the Interior branch that takes care of immigration) for years, so why should some people feel entitled to being in this country without taking the necessary steps for it?

The Yellow Vest movement is united because it fights “against” something - namely the decrease of the purchasing power and rise of bs taxes to supposedly “save the planet”.
And most of the people out in the streets are working class, though the far right and far left movements did endorse it openly. But no, the movement itself has not been hijacked by nazis.

Here’s the link to the article this sperg is referring to about homophobia. Can you imagine being heckled for being a local politician supporting the government?
Just look at his car. He’s lucky to be alive!
https://www.google.fr/amp/s/m.huffi...une-agression-homophobe-dans-lain_a_23592471/

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I braved the Guardian comments section, toilet of spergery that it is even by other news comment sections, and found this. Citation needed, is all I have to say. @Azovka , any truth to these sorts of allegations?

I do like the shock at how they had the TEMERITY to report illegal immigrants! The monsters! Gasp!
It's all more or less true but quite irrelevant in the big picture.

The part about reporting migrants is really ironic because they were headed for the UK, most of those going there stay almost completely off the grid but now they're gonna rot in a detention center before being shipped back to Italy or somewhere else, all on taxpayers' money so yeah good job guys.
 
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