VTuber Leaflit & Asari - (conservative mom and daughter VTuber duo who mostly do political commentary)

I think the fact that you’ve been banned from multiple threads answers that questions.
Any retard can swing the ban hammer. I don't place much stock in every ban being credible.

But I do value bans (especially with reports for illegal + immoral activity) when they are needed, like the fiasco with Null having to deal with a CP-spammer recently (at least from what I recall when I viewed the Destiny thread).
 
Hi I'm retarded and I have only been tepidly following vtuber drama because they have new drama every week and it's teenage shit. But there is a few questions that keeps coming up in my mind that no one can seem to answer:

How fucking hard is it to just not engage with children and be an entertainer?
Why are all of these people so hungry for views that they are willing to let predators flying under the lolicon/shotacon acceptance umbrella into their servers where they can predate on little kids?
It's not even edgy jokes anymore they're just doing it out in the open. And when the server owners get caught having this shit in their servers they immediately deflect to retarded insults instead of owning that they fucked up?
Why is it so hard for vtubers to admit lolicons are fucking degenerates and they shit up every community they're in and turn it into this shit?

How hard is it to take a zero tolerance stance on this shit and say: No children in my server. If you see them nuke on sight. Don't share porn on my server. If you see anyone doing it nuke on sight. Lolicons and shoutacons get put against the wall or fired into the sun. Pedophiles are bad.

Why is it so fucking hard for vtubers to just say that shit and own it? Because this shit is very specifically a vtuber issue that seems to just keep happening and anytime anyone tries to talk about it, the Pedo Defense Force comes out in full swing ready to start life ruination on anyone who dares suggest jorkin to little anime girls is fucking weird.
 
I know vtubers aren't normal, but idk why streamer would want to have a discord channel at this point, it's like a concentration camp for the biggest no-lifers in your community.
 
I know vtubers aren't normal, but idk why streamer would want to have a discord channel at this point, it's like a concentration camp for the biggest no-lifers in your community.
There's nothing wrong with having a Discord server (and unfortunately Discord is the golden standard, no one's gonna move to TeamSpeak for their favorite oshi) where the streamer and their fans can meet up, chat, organize events, etc. Problem is, in an effort to be inclusive (in a good sense of the word) streamers allow minors in their servers while the pedophilia and degeneracy problem is at the all time high (we can directly call out Nux and other lolicon defenders for that btw, since they love peddling this shit to children). Having NSFW channels only makes it worse.
In short, if a CC strictly doesn't allow kids in their Discord and/or prohibits any NSFW content, then at the very least they're smart enough to hide their skeletons. Otherwise it's a giant red flag.
 
I know vtubers aren't normal, but idk why streamer would want to have a discord channel at this point, it's like a concentration camp for the biggest no-lifers in your community.
I know some small streamers who made private discords for their tiny communities so that people could integrate the twitch emotes into discord and they could use them. It's a silly reason, but it is also a convenient way to talk within your group about future content or field suggestions.

Mind you, the streamers I'm talking about are not big and are not trying to make it big. They're just hanging out with the same group of people and floating between each others content when they're bored.
There's nothing wrong with having a Discord server (and unfortunately Discord is the golden standard, no one's gonna move to TeamSpeak for their favorite oshi) where the streamer and their fans can meet up, chat, organize events, etc. Problem is, in an effort to be inclusive (in a good sense of the word) streamers allow minors in their servers while the pedophilia and degeneracy problem is at the all time high (we can directly call out Nux and other lolicon defenders for that btw, since they love peddling this shit to children). Having NSFW channels only makes it worse.
In short, if a CC strictly doesn't allow kids in their Discord and/or prohibits any NSFW content, then at the very least they're smart enough to hide their skeletons. Otherwise it's a giant red flag.
I guess I'm just a prude but I don't get why you'd want to share porn with other people online. Like that alone attracts weird people. I don't really want to know what streamers or the people I'm watching a stream with are gooning to. And I guess I'm just further a prude because I don't understand why you'd want to hang out with children in a server. I'm kinda of two minds here that some streamers are either really weak-willed and can't say no, or they're straight up degenerates and don't care about online safety if it guarentees them those sweet, sweet views.

To me, there's nothing wrong with saying, "gtfo if you're a kid. You aren't wanted here." We do it in real life with bars and shit. No one wants a kid shitting up a lounge. Adults go to separate rooms to talk to other adults at family gatherings and the kids go do kid shit. I don't see why online has to be any different. And it's kind of your job as the adult to be the adult. That part seems to be where vtubers drop the ball. No one wants to be the adult and make the adult-decisions.
 
I guess I'm just a prude but I don't get why you'd want to share porn with other people online.
Come to think of it, you're actually right. Degen shit should be kept to designated degen sites with measures to ensure that no child can access it. But of course the usual suspects will bitch and moan about it.
And I guess I'm just further a prude because I don't understand why you'd want to hang out with children in a server
It could work, as long as you keep it strictly family friendly. It is extra work for extra audience, but if you're not a pedo faggot and willing to make extra effort for your server to be the safe space for kids to hang out, I don't see the problem.
 
Come to think of it, you're actually right. Degen shit should be kept to designated degen sites with measures to ensure that no child can access it. But of course the usual suspects will bitch and moan about it.

It could work, as long as you keep it strictly family friendly. It is extra work for extra audience, but if you're not a pedo faggot and willing to make extra effort for your server to be the safe space for kids to hang out, I don't see the problem.
Oh, as someone who's even a fan, I hundred percent agree, I have never understood the appeal of a gooner chat and I think we should have always been eighteen plus
 
Harmful Opinions dropped a new Leaflit video, here's an archive:
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Forgive me if this treads too close to threadshitting.
Putting aside the fact that the server is directly linked on her channel and is associated with her. What the fuck kind of rebuke is this? "Oh well it's not run by me so i actually dindu noffin"
that's like saying that you cant call keffals out for the otokonoko pharmaceuticals shit because uhmm actually the company was run by that bobposting troon and not lucas. Genuine fucking brainrot.
 
Harmful Opinions dropped a new Leaflit video, here's an archive:
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Forgive me if this treads too close to threadshitting.
Man Leaflit and the other stupid bitch had a lot of words to say and none of those words were "YEAH HANGING OUT WITH KIDS IS WEIRD. PROBABLY SHOULDN'T DO THAT. LEMME GO BE AN ADULT AND HANDLE THAT SHIT. No children."

why is that so fucking hard for them to just say that?
 
Man Leaflit and the other stupid bitch had a lot of words to say and none of those words were "YEAH HANGING OUT WITH KIDS IS WEIRD. PROBABLY SHOULDN'T DO THAT. LEMME GO BE AN ADULT AND HANDLE THAT SHIT. No children."

why is that so fucking hard for them to just say that?
kirsche and nyaratv both flat out ban minors from their respective trooncord servers. It really is odd why she insists on putting children in potential harm because something something own the libz/haydurs.
 
I know that the current drama is the hot topic of the month right now, but I would like to reveal some Leaflit lore. This lore is very good, there's nothing bad about it.
From her previous Twitter account, she posted many videos and pictures of her cats. And I'm going to archive and upload it all here.

This cat is named Holo. I am unsure for the names of the other cats. Look at them sleeping, how nice!

Leaflit takes Holo out for walks, how nice of her to do that! :)

Holo is a funny cat. :lol:

Unrelated to the cat, but Leaflit made a little friend with a squirrel.

Now for the photos, there is a bunch of them. Including different cats than Holo.
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The photos of these cats were taken around 2016 to 2020. I hope these cute cats are currently well. :)
 
measures to ensure that no child can access it
The only measure that can ensure that no child can access something is parents not giving their children internet enabled devices.

Any sort of "age verification" nonsense anyone could ever come up with in the digital age is trivial to circumvent.
 
The only measure that can ensure that no child can access something is parents not giving their children internet enabled devices.

Any sort of "age verification" nonsense anyone could ever come up with in the digital age is trivial to circumvent.
the conversation was having a NSFW section of your discord and how that doesn't make sense to begin with because what kind of person wants to share their porn watching habits with other people. All of us were children on the internet and we all went places we weren't supposed to go. We're adults now and we understand that kids are going to do stupid shit because they're retarded kids.

Make it easier on yourself and the nosy little shits by not having something that will obviously draw in weird fucking people like a NSFW section in your streamer discord. You're just asking for degenerates to roll up.

Vtubers are adults. Grown adults that own businesses. They aren't children. Leaflit is in her late thirties or forties. She needs to act like an adult and take responsibility for creating an unsafe place for her younger audience, and stop passing the buck because she doesn't want to admit the views and money are worth more than her viewers' safety.
 
Her discord nuked the gooner chat inshallah.

I wonder why

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I've been refraining from weighing in until the drama shakes out but after a lot of thought I've decided to throw my two cents in.

she fat lol
 
harmfuls videos broke those vtubers brains, they dont understand what he says. why is it so difficult for them to just flat out bann kids. why argue over it its that simple
 
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