Leftism is built on an illusion of a "fake family" - Pseudo-families vs. Real extended families

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I made this reply on another thread, but it got out of hand and became a whole new thing. I want to see if any farmers agrees with my sperging here. (I have added some extra stuff btw)

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"Goodwill" or the "willingness to share" something is something good people do, this is why rightwingers tend to believe in more conservative views such as to keep places homogeneous so the trust is high in the community. Then this "goodwill"/"willingness to share" will come automatically or at least not feel as forced because you can actually see yourself in others. Focusing on creating "good people genetically" ("our own kind" ) will lead to a sharing society. You are pretty much trying to build a real extended family, by actual blood to make people share stuff. In short: A biological family is a group unit that will most likely share resources with each other very willingly out of love, rightwing ideology is based on the concept of scalling this up naturally.

Rightwing idea:
Family --> Real extended family --> System

Blood and soil. For your people.

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The left leaning people on the other hand wants this premise of "sharing stuff" only on paper (in law) and forced dircetly for no reason at all. They think that anyone can be a "good person", and if not... the system will just force you "to be one", a.k.a they will take you shit and "redistribute" it to others you don't want to share it with, because that's the system. A leftist simply just want to have stuff without having to fulfill any credentials to earn such a privilege. They want to use a pseudo-extended family belief to trick people into sharing stuff. In short: If you can create/manufacture a belief that a system is "a big community" a.k.a a "pseudo-family", then people will share the resources in this system with each other, the leftwing ideology is based on the concept of creating an illusion of a "family".

Leftists idea:
Illusion --> Pseudo-extended family --> System

If you look at Marxist ideas, they often always have a whole section on how to uphold a propaganda/media/entertainment "machine" (the call it "Base and superstructure" I think...), it's because for this exact reason: To upheld the belief of a "Pseudo-family" existing. Corporate lingo is also based on the same premise of creating a pseudo-family.

> we are like a big family here, anyone is welcomed to join...
> this place is more of a community, not a workplace...
Sounds familiar?

For "the" people.

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Spoiler: Broken homes and leftists

Since most people are from broken homes and don't really have a family, they are desperate for a surrogate family (for a crumb of feeling accepted and "wanted"), that's why leftsists promotes policies that will often results in broken families in the long run, statistically speaking (race mixing, promiscuous women and poor men) so people will be more prone to accept a "pseudo-extended family" a.k.a institutional communities (kindergartens, youth centers and other social environments that the government is creating). It's the "government replaced the father" meme.

For an example: A two generational single moms home won't have a man to look after the kid, so they are forced to put them in some kindergarten. Since it's also a small "family" they don't have a big enough network for the kids to have see and learn how the world works in different areas, so you rely more on what the (((news))) says instead of a real and experienced family member telling you their perspective on different topics. So this creates more gullible people on average, perfect for a system. These kids will only have schools and youth centers as their contact to the real world, which of course is a lefty environment to keep the ball rolling.

Spoiler: Insufferable personalities

This is why leftists have insufferable personalities: Because the system doesn't care, You will just get your gibs support no matter what you are and how you act. As long you are a "citizen" you are free to do what ever you want and other citizens can't do shit.
A rightwing society will require some social standards if you want some help, so rightwingers tend to be nicer since there is an actully "social debt" here, an expectation to behave.

Spoiler: "Extended family" to "Pseudo-family"

Just an anecdotal observation:
A lot of the lefty psyops is to take an rightwing idea, and try to spin the narrative that it can "hold up" with any kind of personality in a society. This is why they say that "marriage can work with gay people" (destroying the family mechanics of it, but keeping the "ritual" for the pseudo-family).

This is why they are also inserting niggers into European history and so on. Because they want those historical achievements to be theirs. They want success to be associated with diversity... and then conveniently blame that its downfall was due to it was a homogeneous society.

> This place has always been diverse
> Let people get married to who ever they want! There actually was a gay society [insert a civilization that didn't last for shit]
> Actually, the Romans/Greeks/vikings were very diverse [inserting niggers]
You get the point.

Speaking of faggots: If you can make people think that people who can not have kids biologically can be "a family" (allowing them to get married and have access to adoption and surrogacy), then they create the illusion that anyone can be "a family". --> Niggers are your "extended family" too.

Also, a lot of this is also to humiliate the natives. Kikes do this a lot with Europeans and Japs.

In short:

Leftist wants you to believe that "anyone can be part of an extended family" so they can get a freepass to leech of anyone. They want a distribution system to have no conditions related to ones background. Rightwingers wants a "limit" of who can be part of said "extended family" (a real family) as a condition to take part in a distribution system. One is about being a parasite for a stranger, one is a birthright by your ancestors.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

First of all, every cult is based on a fake family supplementing your real one.

Second, I don't see it. Leftism handling on the family unit is different, but is more about equaling the playing field through community raising children than outright creating a fake family.

The insane exclusiveness and gibs is more of a woke thing than an overall left wing idea.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

"Goodwill" or the "willingness to share" something is something good people do, this is why rightwingers tend to believe in more conservative views such as to keep places homogeneous so the trust is high in the community.

This is hardly exclusive to the right, no socialist system of any kind can survive without a high-trust society and a homogenous culture that share a sense of collective values. The American right was 100% behind mass amnesty for illegals and uncontrolled immigration, starting with St. Reagan of the Trickle Down himself.

The modern left is just a perverted version of the modern right based upon the same selfish, myopic attitudes. It is never good or admirable to be selfish, altruism is the basis for a healthy and functional society.

One is about being a parasite for a stranger, one is a birthright by your ancestors.

Unfortunately plenty of people on the right are more than happy to be parasites for strangers. Look at private equity firms, deregulating banks and bailing them out for their criminal actions, endless Fed money printing, "right to work" laws, offshoring, the perpetual myth of free trade, and privatization of critical infrastructure and services.

 

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The American right was 100% behind mass amnesty for illegals and uncontrolled immigration, starting with St. Reagan of the Trickle Down himself.

Also, it was George W. Bush and his conservative acts of love that packed Minnesota full of Somalis.

Everyone who is a rightwinger, is a rightwinger for their own. But as soon it's someone else, they will promote leftism since it's delusional (destructive for the other groups rightwingers). If what you claim is true (too lazy to insert myself in American history), then these people weren't rightwingers at all or they where rightwingers (for another group), because you just described what a saboteur would do.

Spoiler: JEWS

This is literally how Jews work! They claim to be part of a group, the group is too naive and slowly accepts them eventually, then the jew betrays them to flood said place with outsiders. Then the jews tries to seperate themselves as "jews" again to be secluded from said mulatto hell they just created. It's the same story every single time. Are you sure these aren't kikes?

people on the right are more than happy to be parasites for strangers.

The thing is that those "strangers" are resentful about it, so down the line they will stop. Creating a big chunk of your population wanting to leave/destroy a system is not a stable one.
If it's your kids (you are their ancestors), then you are more than happy to keep this system going.

The current "stranger get the gibs" is not going to work in the long run. Right now, people are pretty much forced under gun point to pay said taxes that supports this (no taxes = jail or if you refuse jail the cops will end up shooting you --> it's pretty much is all under a "gun point"). The FED's doing money "magic" and other tricks to keep the clown show going, is more of an indicator that there are no actual resources keeping it together right now. We are at the moment, running on buffers/"savings" if you can call it that... worst case scenario is that we might even be running on the belief that there is still money left, that said buffers already dried up.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

If what you claim is true (too lazy to insert myself in American history), then these people weren't rightwingers at all or they where rightwingers (for another group), because you just described what a saboteur would do.

It's true elsewhere as well. The GDR was protected from the free-market depredations and mass migrations plaguing the "free" Germany today. When guest workers like the Vietnamese were brought in, they were sent back no questions asked when the contract was over. No BS about living there on handouts from the Volksgemeinschaft.

Are you a National Socialist? I get the feeling you aren't really right-wing at all.

The thing is that those "strangers" are resentful about it, so down the line they will stop. Creating a big chunk of your population wanting to leave/destroy a system is not a stable one.

They're not intelligent enough to realize this despite their claims to the contrary. Much like the nobility in most of Europe they think their position is unassailable through rights granted by God. Until it's too late and the working and middle classes rise up to overthrow them.

If it's your kids (you are their ancestors), then you are more than happy to keep this system going.

That's where their entire ideology falls apart, it's myopic selfishness to benefit me instead of we. Shared community and shared culture are essential to social cohesion because children will increasingly learn from their peers more than their parents as they get older. That without proper structure means a lot of bad and destructive ideas in a self-centered culture such as this.

 

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It's true elsewhere as well. The GDR was protected from the free-market depredations and mass migrations plaguing the "free" Germany today. When guest workers like the Vietnamese were brought in, they were sent back no questions asked when the contract was over. No BS about living there on handouts from the Volksgemeinschaft.

Interesting, might look up how that happened. Again, it's Asians tho... Arabs/Negroids are a complete different story when comes to having a "contracts" with them.

Are you a National Socialist? I get the feeling you aren't really right-wing at all.

Isn't rightwing "Natsoc"? Never really cared to sort out the /pol terms.

I believe that everyone should have the right to grow up in a homogeneous society. "Microtensions" will bubble up and fuck with peoples brain eventually if you are with people that don't look or talk like you. "Multiculturalism", "woke" or "mulatto melting pot freakfest" or what ever name you want to call our current state, is the most evil thing that mankind has ever faced so far. This has created a braindrain (both from the "melting pot" meme and "chronic nigger fatigue" meme) and made us less capable to solve things.

You mentioned altruism before. I believe that you have to design an ideology based on nature and not delusions (yeah yeah first page Mein Kampf). Biology is pretty much myopic selfishness (but more "generational" if that makes sense). An ideology based on nature will always be stronger than one built on delusions, since nature always wins. So if you have an ideology that is family orientated, it creates more "good people" (a much better life to endure). You have to create a real reason for that "altruism", not a fake one, because eventaully people will figure it out. Parents will always have their kids interests at heart (in 99.99 % of the time), the governments only cares about the government (it can never be a substitute for a "family" of the same level, it's delusional if you think that). So if you have good people, you have a nicer life. Multiculturalism has created the worst psychos and mutts to interact with, it's an "ideology" built on maximizing suffering for your average citizen. This is not stable at all...

I don't know what this makes me.

> thx for reding mi manefestoo

They're not intelligent enough to realize this despite their claims to the contrary. Much like the nobility in most of Europe they think their position is unassailable through rights granted by God. Until it's too late and the working and middle classes rise up to overthrow them.

Well, the next system (after the current one goes down) will probably have a smarter ideological "set up". There is no way anything "woke" will stick around.

Also, I don't think leaders are "dumb", you can hide a lot by just "pretending" to be dumb. I honestly think it's them being too cocky and them thinking some law enforces and hideouts will protect them when SHTF.

That's where their entire ideology falls apart, it's myopic selfishness to benefit me instead of we. Shared community and shared culture are essential to social cohesion because children will increasingly learn from their peers more than their parents as they get older. That without proper structure means a lot of bad and destructive ideas in a self-centered culture such as this.

I agree, I don't see how this is a problem with my point? Is it the "my kids" part? "Myopic selfishness" is something everyone has, and it's a biological drift to have what is best for our offspring. The system should be built on that, the "peers" should be "extended siblings" in this case. Also a guarantee if something happens to you, there are people that are similar enough to you to look after the kids, and not a complete stranger who thinks it's a grooming buffet.

Think this concept as "skin in the game". It is myopic selfishness, but it's directed to someone else. It's delusional to design an idea on wishful thinking that we "just care about each other", no we do it because it's beneficial for us.

 

[Devout Muslim]

First of all, every cult is based on a fake family supplementing your real one.

I think you mean supplanting.

Anyway, it’s not exactly a left wing idea to support something external to the family. Jesus Himself said that whoever loves father and mother more than Him don’t deserve Him. The only constant feature of leftism is that it is dedicated to the destruction of Western culture. In service of that aim, there are various reasons to oppose the family unit.

 

[Masturbator]

Isn't rightwing "Natsoc"? Never really cared to sort out the /pol terms.

he meant nutsballs typa people aka duginist politik

outside of memes it feels like the op was quite trying to gestate the thought before he found out that it horseshoes back so the another half to the post is desperate attempt to explain that its totally different and not us good vs bad em

 

[SwanSwanson]

You have hippies in the 60s out here creating their own communes. You'd have some college dudes with their girlfriends/wives moving out to the woods to create their socialist utopias. I cannot imagine modern leftists doing or even attempting anything like this.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

You have hippies in the 60s out here creating their own communes.

Its just funny to me because a lot of leftists totally ignore how obsessed the Soviet Union and Maoist China were with communes. Marx, Engels, even Lenin, wrote letter and speeches obsessing over them and the need for them.It wasn't only utopian socialists. At one point, 90% of China's population lived on communes. The reasons for their abandonment largely came from the sheer amount of ideological indoctrination it takes to sustain them. Living like a communist means accepting surrendering a lot of freedoms, time, and wealth you take for granted.

A lot of leftists are just people doing kayfabe on social media for para-social validation because they would never accept the sacrifices their order would require of them.

 

[IglyUglyOh]

A lot of right wing people are decent and assume others will be decent without regulation. I remember Adam Carolla & Drew Pinsky saying we don’t need so much regulation for consumer products because no one would kill off their customer base.

Around the same time, a company in Mexico killed off their customer base by putting antifreeze in some kind of drink.

Leftists are usually in my experience from a more hardscrabble past or have been let down by their families. Anyone can have a kid, even an addict or criminal or someone totally workshy. Leftists are more about unions or chosen families in many cases because they know from experience that not every family is made up of good people.

I can throw my extended family farther than I would ever trust them. Yes, evolution suggests that people will instinctually care for their family units because that benefits the whole family unit. But that’s not true. People have addictions, mental illnesses, traumas from how their family raised them, personality disorders.

If you have a solid family, bully for you. But there are people who would pimp their kid out to get money to buy drugs, and that’s why we need things like CPS. Not everyone is a good person and that’s why leftists generally try to regulate some of this stuff and build a social safety net.

 

[Sneedium]

You have hippies in the 60s out here creating their own communes. You'd have some college dudes with their girlfriends/wives moving out to the woods to create their socialist utopias. I cannot imagine modern leftists doing or even attempting anything like this.

Modern leftism is claiming virtue by demanding other people do something.

In my old hometown, there is shitload of homeless people everywhere. The commie college students/childless millenials/boomer shitlibs there demand that people pay more taxes and offer more gibs. "TAX THE RICH."
Meanwhile, the local churches do most of the heavy lifting when it comes to actually helping the homeless by building shelters, donating, and volunteering their time.
Modern leftists almost never do these things. Their concept of "taking action" is performative gestures like putting rainbow signs in front of their house or holding "benefit events" like concerts where they raise a small amount of money (it's mostly just an excuse to party while feeling good about themselves). They have this idea that "it's society's fault, so it's society that needs to do something," all while failing to understand that society is something everyone participates in.
That being said, I don't blame them for not wanting to directly interact with the homeless, many of whom are insane, but they advocate for laws that enable their destructive lifestyles and then pat themselves on the back for doing nothing.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

In short: If you can create/manufacture a belief that a system is "a big community" a.k.a a "pseudo-family", then people will share the resources in this system with each other, the leftwing ideology is based on the concept of creating an illusion of a "family".

No wonder SJWs like using the word "community" a lot. "Community Guidelines", a kind as a "community" (example: "Black community"), "community defense" instead of police...

 

[Kalsarikännit]

You are pretty much trying to build a real extended family, by actual blood to make people share stuff

It's the "foot in the door" to answer *why* someone should help someone else. There's no real inherent reason to help a complete stranger, there is an inherent reason to help blood relatives.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Their concept of "taking action" is performative gestures like putting rainbow signs in front of their house. helping the homeless by building shelter

And they'll support bad policies like rent control, difficult to evict laws, and exclusionary zoning laws that make housing so prohibitively expensive to build that it contributes to the problem. Even worse, they'll treat homeless people like saints, and refuse to let the police deal with them when they become overbearing.

 

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"community defense" instead of police...

They got a whole list of lingo word "switch ups" for this exact purpose of avoiding the origin of said words. Some are very malicious and predatory. People should really internalize and reflect on the words they use more, which can be hard since "Fishes don't think they're in water" so to speak.

Modern leftism is claiming virtue by demanding other people do something.

It's why they claim "others work is someone elses right", now you can make the argument that taxation is theft and medical health care could be "a human right". They have pushed the "X/human rights" meme to absolute nonsense and trivial shit that isn't really of importance, they got nothing to show why they would deserve such a "right", or should I say... privilege.

I can relate to your story of them wanting something, but doesn't do anything to get related to said task done. They always expect someone else to do the job. I have confronted a few and the most common meme is "let the experts do it" (more optimal and saving on waste), but they seem to never understand to why someone would do it (it's when the "good heckn wholesome person" meme comes in...). In your case, they just exploited the goodwill of the chruch. I would say it's an (social) exploit because I'm 100% sure they would NEVER do something in return for the church.

Their concept of "taking action" is performative gestures like putting rainbow signs in front of their house or holding "benefit events" like concerts where they raise a small amount of money (it's mostly just an excuse to party while feeling good about themselves).

I don't like to use psychology terms due to it's pretty much pseudoscience IMO, but they really have "narcissistic" traits. They have convinced themselves that "them having fun" somehow translates to "I'm saving the world", this is insanely delusional. Confusing hedonism and being productive is a a leftists character trait.

Leftists are usually in my experience from a more hardscrabble past or have been let down by their families. Anyone can have a kid, even an addict or criminal or someone totally workshy. Leftists are more about unions or chosen families in many cases because they know from experience that not every family is made up of good people.

I can throw my extended family farther than I would ever trust them. Yes, evolution suggests that people will instinctually care for their family units because that benefits the whole family unit. But that’s not true. People have addictions, mental illnesses, traumas from how their family raised them, personality disorders.

You are absolutely right. Having a rightwing society wouldn't erase these problems completely. But there would be a lot of fewer cases like this. Leftism is designed to optimize the conditions for said scenarios to occur more often. As I stated in the thread, leftists benefit from statically making sure you got as many addicted family members and people with mental issues, that's how they get their power. It's they strength. It's my opinion to design a society where you optimize to have families made up of good people. Otherwise you have to "remove them". Leftists are all about accepting everyone and keeping these "people" around, and worse... gives them money (encouraging behavior) if they have kids instead of making an example out of them.

Yes, I'm endorsing the mockery and discrimination against of single mothers and bullying fat kids. Problem? Any man who can't meet a certain intelligence threshold or a physical test should be castrated or expelled. If you graduate high school and still don't know how an exponential function works, you should not be allowed to speak or vote,

 

[Masturbator]

It's why they claim "others work is someone elses right", now you can make the argument that taxation is theft and medical health care could be "a human right". They have pushed the "X/human rights" meme to absolute nonsense and trivial shit that isn't really of importance, they got nothing to show why they would deserve such a "right", or should I say... privilege.

well geneva related on this page that emergency kind of medical assistance should be natural, that said a lot of shit we had naturally in 20th century are unobtanium right now

I can relate to your story of them wanting something, but doesn't do anything to get related to said task done. They always expect someone else to do the job. I have confronted a few and the most common meme is "let the experts do it" (more optimal and saving on waste), but they seem to never understand to why someone would do it (it's when the "good heckn wholesome person" meme comes in...). In your case, they just exploited the goodwill of the chruch. I would say it's an (social) exploit because I'm 100% sure they would NEVER do something in return for the church.

selling point with liberalism imo is that its always middle class faggots trying to weight on actual working people and ones capable of making stuff happen to the point they effectively hijack the movement and/or destroy it inside out which is very funny cuz for the awhile i had my standing in russian commie parties we always had navalnists trying to religiously defame or hijack our movements to their wishes, in many other words majority of them by engine are opportunists with broken paws

Leftism is designed to optimize the conditions for said scenarios to occur more often. As I stated in the thread, leftists benefit from statically making sure you got as many addicted family members and people with mental issues, that's how they get their power. It's they strength.

i do not believe personally that liberast agencies have any meaningful strength (all that do really come are corporates pushing stuff religiously through bankrolled movements) most of them by kernel level are pushing the same strategy as a convenient religion/movement/ideology does (e.g gain members then move into active phase trying to retain members badly) but since their ranks consist of genuinely weak and antisocial people they cannot and hijacking media does not works out physically much because anyone normal is simply isnt either interested nor caring

outside of memes i do not consider lefty topics as anything serious in practice as much its strong as fundie shit, not to underplay but they're literally are making eunuchs of each other so its very naive to imply they would walk into next decade

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

You guys overthink this topic way too often. Another job for Occam’s Razor:

Leftism just sucks.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

If the "woke" fully took over the world, every city would become a "multicultural melting pot" with a mix of incompatible ways that would either cancel out, clash, or both.

And of course every leftist-run city becomes a crime-ridden craphole: the "community" is that "fake family" thing forced on people.