Lolcow Leonard F. Shaner II - Discussion Edition and Now With Less Autism (see the OP)

Len is dirt poor. If he wanted to sue anyone, he'd have to find a lawyer willing to work on contingency, and no lawyer worthy of the name would take his case because they'd know he has no grounds to sue and thus no chance in hell of winning.
Let's also not forget the fact that he's pretty much got a criminal record as both a trespasser and a pedophile. Even if he had a viable ground to sue people (and could afford it too). No one would want to simply because of those offenses alone. More so if they ever discovered the heavy amount of hate speech he's done, as well as the (supposed) facebook take over of another lawyer's account and the activity he did there.
 
I don't know about the US, but up here in Canada you need to 'set court' before you can start a civil suit, and there is a $20,000 fee to do so.

If the fee is similar I can't see Len trying to sue anyone unless he liquidated everything he has.

Even in Canada Len wouldn't have to pay that amount. Anything he filed would be considered a small claim as his damages wouldn't amount to much anyway, and thus would only incur court fees of around $100-$500, Canada or USA.
 
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they were using a restricted number, the police said maybe a Trac Phone???

Just to highlight on this, since you worded it like you weren't sure what it was (and also spelled it wrong :lol: ), a Trac-Fone is a prepaid "X number of minutes" cell phone that is sold at gas stations and convenience stores. They are extremely abundant here in the south since Trac-Fone is owned by a large Mexican telecommunications company, and Trac-Fones are frequently used by migrant workers and citizens of indeterminate origins to keep in touch with their families in Mexico. They're also used as burner phones for people selling things that they shouldn't be. They appear as restricted or unknown numbers because there is essentially no caller data associated with the phones.
 
Just to highlight on this, since you worded it like you weren't sure what it was (and also spelled it wrong :lol: ), a Trac-Fone is a prepaid "X number of minutes" cell phone that is sold at gas stations and convenience stores. They are extremely abundant here in the south since Trac-Fone is owned by a large Mexican telecommunications company, and Trac-Fones are frequently used by migrant workers and citizens of indeterminate origins to keep in touch with their families in Mexico. They're also used as burner phones for people selling things that they shouldn't be. They appear as restricted or unknown numbers because there is essentially no caller data associated with the phones.
Correct. they're really cheap, so they're also popular with people whose credit won't let them get a contract plan.
 
With Len being such an exceptional individual lately, I feel it's time to bring up another topic. This came to me after I was cooling down fron Len's antics actually causing @Zim to back out of the topic. My reply was kinda emotional then, but I've had some time to think and now I wanna talk about this in a topic where Len can't sperg it up.

LEN AND DOXXING

Alright, so as we all know, Len is a massive fucking idiot who obsesses over trains, has a pantyhose fetish, thinks there is a huge conspiracy against him, continually harasses everyone who he thinks wrongs him, and I would not have sex with him. We have a topic over 700 pages long confirming all this.

The one thing I want to focus on here, though, is that Len is... well he's a bloody fucking inbecile. This is why the whole doxxing saga is, when I think about it, a bit confusing. As we have seen in the past through @Kirby's shenanigans, Len will post dox talking about Chris, Samus Aran, and an evil clone of himself without blinking, showing he is either blind, lazy, or retarded to even check his dox remotely. With that said, it's surprising to me that he can get more thorough doxxing of people like Curt.

What I'm getting at here is that I think Len isn't working alone in this. We've talked before about how if Len bugs enough people irl, it could lead to more legal shenanigans, and I think some undiscovered we.en is rolling with this information and trying to get Len in such deep shit that someone irl finally beats the shit out of Len. I know that Len also has a huge mouth and if this was the case he'd probably have let it slip SOMEWHERE that he has some outside help (unless said cool dumbshit is impersonating a mod like Hellblazer, as he said he had Kiwi staff in his back pocket), but it just baffles me that a guy who once said one of us was Marisa Kirisame could suddenly have so much personal information on someone.

Of course, as Len actually lives in the area, he has some local resources he could possibly use to find out personal dox. Also, and I mean this in no insulting manner, but Len seems to live in a rural area where people would treat the Internet as "that place that connects people through FB," and thus I wouldn't be surprised if people were less careful with their dox than us here. It is perfectly possible for Len to have found this dox on his own.

... But it's Len, and I find it hard to believe the dumbass can dress himself in the morning.

Which finally brings me to the last thing that concerns me. Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned Len had a friend that was slightly less stupid than him, whose name I admit is eluding me right now. For anyone in Len's area that can look into it, like @Gook Choy, @Pocket_Sand!, @Samson, can you guys see what the hell this guy is doing during all this? If it isn't weenery, I would sooner believe Len had a irl well-intentioned idiot who saw us "doxxing" him and responded with "doxxing" of us own than Len actually finding this dox on his own and then calling someone Brianna fucking Wu.
 
With Len being such an exceptional individual lately, I feel it's time to bring up another topic. This came to me after I was cooling down fron Len's antics actually causing @Zim to back out of the topic. My reply was kinda emotional then, but I've had some time to think and now I wanna talk about this in a topic where Len can't sperg it up.

LEN AND DOXXING

Alright, so as we all know, Len is a massive fucking idiot who obsesses over trains, has a pantyhose fetish, thinks there is a huge conspiracy against him, continually harasses everyone who he thinks wrongs him, and I would not have sex with him. We have a topic over 700 pages long confirming all this.

The one thing I want to focus on here, though, is that Len is... well he's a bloody fucking inbecile. This is why the whole doxxing saga is, when I think about it, a bit confusing. As we have seen in the past through @Kirby's shenanigans, Len will post dox talking about Chris, Samus Aran, and an evil clone of himself without blinking, showing he is either blind, lazy, or retarded to even check his dox remotely. With that said, it's surprising to me that he can get more thorough doxxing of people like Curt.

What I'm getting at here is that I think Len isn't working alone in this. We've talked before about how if Len bugs enough people irl, it could lead to more legal shenanigans, and I think some undiscovered we.en is rolling with this information and trying to get Len in such deep shit that someone irl finally beats the shit out of Len. I know that Len also has a huge mouth and if this was the case he'd probably have let it slip SOMEWHERE that he has some outside help (unless said cool dumbshit is impersonating a mod like Hellblazer, as he said he had Kiwi staff in his back pocket), but it just baffles me that a guy who once said one of us was Marisa Kirisame could suddenly have so much personal information on someone.

Of course, as Len actually lives in the area, he has some local resources he could possibly use to find out personal dox. Also, and I mean this in no insulting manner, but Len seems to live in a rural area where people would treat the Internet as "that place that connects people through FB," and thus I wouldn't be surprised if people were less careful with their dox than us here. It is perfectly possible for Len to have found this dox on his own.

... But it's Len, and I find it hard to believe the dumbass can dress himself in the morning.

Which finally brings me to the last thing that concerns me. Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned Len had a friend that was slightly less stupid than him, whose name I admit is eluding me right now. For anyone in Len's area that can look into it, like @Gook Choy, @Pocket_Sand!, @Samson, can you guys see what the hell this guy is doing during all this? If it isn't weenery, I would sooner believe Len had a irl well-intentioned idiot who saw us "doxxing" him and responded with "doxxing" of us own than Len actually finding this dox on his own and then calling someone Brianna fucking Wu.
Shaner has been couched by someone (from inside the farms) before he made his current account. Check the thread a few pages before he first appeared and read carefully what was said, the hints are all over the place but they are very sutile. Like you said, just check out the type of people that Shaner think we are (Brianna Wu, Anita Sharkeesan, etc) and it should point you to who his "informant" is.
I have some ideas into who is responsible but I rather go with the flow and see what happens next, just like I did with Saul alt.
The only thing we can be certain is that everything we write here will land into Shaners ears, but we won't be able to tell what else will be added in the process, but so far it's proved to be mostly under control, except when Shaner act on his own irl.
 
Eh, seeing himself self destruct even more due to Zim bowing out actually makes this amusing, even if it means he's becoming arrogant enought to shitpost on here again.

I'm fairly sure I know who's doing this, based on hints I've seen get dropped, but hey, accusation without evidence is blind. Plus I like their plan of fucking Shaner over because I'm an :alog: and thus pure evil and fail.
 
Good, I stopped follow Len because there was too much shitposting.
@Pocket_Sand! it may have been asked and answered, but have you considered getting a protective order against Len? Then if he shows up at your house or starts calling your wife, you could pursue charges against him.
 
Good, I stopped follow Len because there was too much shitposting.
@Pocket_Sand! it may have been asked and answered, but have you considered getting a protective order against Len? Then if he shows up at your house or starts calling your wife, you could pursue charges against him.

Or use reasonable force in self-defense, which is much more defensible when you have a protective order.
 
Here is an illustration of the "Lantern Punch" incident, aka "July 4th Beatdown at Colebrookdale RR"

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Leonard August 10th Trial Highlights - A Work in Progress

The docket:
Hy is now listed as his Counsel on the docket.

https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJReport.ashx?docketNumber=MJ-38111-CR-0000349-2015

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooo........

Hy Mayerson is involved?
Read a little further.

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@Saul Goodman Oh my god is this really happening is this really happening?

Disclaimer on Mayerson:
Oh, just wanna put this out there, but I don't want anyone to immediately start calling up Hy's firm or anything and asking about this shit. The last time the Farms contacted him about Len, they got annoyed (although it did stop the Len-Hy collaboration on Facebook). Unless this goes on for a couple hours after the hearing ends without any change in status, I'd really want to take this with a grain of salt. This might be an outrageous claim, but with cows things can always get extremely outrageous and the last thing we need to do is become Len and start annoying people irl.

Let's sit back for a second and see if anything changes.

Bail set at $5000, formal trial set:
The docket has been updated.

Bail set at $5,000, formal arraignment Sept 30, 2015.

Hmmmm....

Unsecured Bail:
That means the women around here, and Saul, can post again without fearing for their dignity.

Real Talk Time: That also means the people he was harassing can have some real peace, even if for a little while.

Lesson to take fro all this? Should have called Saul, or another of the crack Kiwi Law Team.

Unsecured Bail means your sign a piece of paper saying you're liable for the money, secured means you actually need the money. Still, if he's caught doing something stupid while out on bail...

Some more details on Len's bail:
From the PA code:

" (3) Release on Unsecured Bail Bond: Release conditioned upon the defendant’s written agreement to be liable for a fixed sum of money if he or she fails to appear as required or fails to comply with the conditions of the bail bond. No money or other form of security is deposited."

In other words, if Len breaks the conditions (most likely one is to not tresspass on CRR property) he gets it in the wallet.

Typescript details:
Edit: May have messed that up, looking again now. Nope had it right the first time.

Pennsylvania Code (2012).
The transcript rate is $1.25 per page of original typescript; except where a court or county provides all the copies, then the rate shall be not in excess of $2.00 per page of original typescript. The transcript copy rate is $0.30 per page for any complete and legible copy, if made at the reporter’s own expense. A reporter who uses an electronic audio recording device from which the transcript is made shall be paid at a rate of $0.25 per page of original typescript.

Just as a note, it does say on the order form that sharing the information isn't legal, unless one has consent.

tl;dr Not a continuance, but Len's probably relaxing at home because of his unsecured bail unless he does something absolutely retarded. While this means that he probably won't be doxxing anyone anymore, it does also imply that he's not getting shivved. Next date's September 30. Clear your schedules.

And don't be autistic and bug Hy, guys.

EDIT: Some Kiwis are unfamiliar with Hy. Hy was part of some really heated drama a while back where the Farms and the Lenspiracy was bashed by Len's "lawyer," a Hy Mayerson, through Facebook. Unlike Len's earlier attempts, where they were transparent sockpuppets that we all laughed at, the Hy profile had a couple of years and history on it, implying that it was the genuine article. This launched into a small inquiry as to if Len was dumb enough to actually hack or impersonate a lawyer to defend himself, with some people pointing out that Hy didn't even work in the same legal cases that Len was being accused of. This ended when our very own @Saul Goodman contacted Hy, which led to a small conversation that ended Hy's White Knighting of Len. Saul points out that Hy's relatives find this inquiry about Len is extremely annoying and to them, which is why I urge people to reign it in and not bug Hy. It was assumed, prior to this trial, that Hy was simply another casualty in Len's absurd impersonation/doxxing in order to make himself look good, but as we can see, that might not be the case anymore.

Regardless, don't bug Hy.
 
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tl;dr Not a continuance, but Len's probably relaxing at home because of his unsecured bail unless he does something absolutely retarded. While this means that he probably won't be doxxing anyone anymore, it does also imply that he's not getting shivved. Next date's September 30. Clear your schedules.

Notice where it's scheduled?

Formal Arraignment 09/30/2015 9:30 am Video Room #1 Scheduled

And don't be autistic and bug Hy, guys.

My guess is Hy actually is a family friend of some sort, think Rocky with a law license, and is doing this pro bono.

That would be consistent with my belief that the way Len "hacked" his account was simply jumping on a computer Hy was logged in from and shitposting from it.
 
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