Lolcow Leonard F. Shaner Jr. - Autistic Pedophile / Foamer / Shitlord

Do you prefer Shaner to get permabanned?

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Wow, I sure missed alot. Apparently the momentum of this runaway train hasn't really slowed much since the trial.

Also, I don't get how even lawyers sometimes fail to understand that it's not libel (written) or slander (spoken) if it's true or if there's no intent to make a damaging lie.
 
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Senior Spielbergo said:
If anyone, for whatever reason, is worried about Len's case actually working out, read this:
http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/can-i-sue-someone-for-insulting-me-by-mockery-onli-646062.html

If you didn't read it, basically what it is is many actual lawyers saying that suing someone online for mocking you is a case where the accuser has no leg to stand on. Len, if your next sock account is on here, I recommend reading this.
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I asked a question on a forum and some people ganged up on me and mocked me, implying that I was hopelessly stupid. Could I sue them?
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Jesus that guy is petty. He wants to sue people on a random forum for calling him stupid when s/he asked what was probably a dumb question.
 
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Autistbox said:
EDIT: Crikey, AnOminous AND Boldspicy mentioned it, it sounds like Hy's son was the lead lawyer. A question for the legal Kiwis, is taking on a case that long without payment normal? Sounded weird to me but I have no idea.
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If you're a big shot law firm with a lot of cash reserves? Sure. As long as it looks like it could pan out eventually, it's worth it. Most small town lawyers without a lot of cash and time to burn would have given up on it with that kind of aggressive defense from a scummy insurance company. This is why Nationwide acted the way they did.

So kudos for them, I guess.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
Wow, I sure missed alot. Apparently the momentum of this runaway train hasn't really slowed much since the trial.

Also, I don't get how even lawyers sometimes fail to understand that it's not libel (written) or slander (spoken) if it's true or if there's no intent to make a damaging lie.
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He's not gonna sue the farms though if that's what you're getting at. What's he gonna get, Nulls computer? My old underwear? I don't think my insurance even covers being sued.
 
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Senior Spielbergo said:
If anyone, for whatever reason, is worried about Len's case actually working out, read this:
http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/can-i-sue-someone-for-insulting-me-by-mockery-onli-646062.html

If you didn't read it, basically what it is is many actual lawyers saying that suing someone online for mocking you is a case where the accuser has no leg to stand on. Len, if your next sock account is on here, I recommend reading this.
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I absolutely loved what one of the lawyers said in that, so I'm posting it directly here in the topic for Len to read because I think he might need the advice. The snapshot is edited so I don't dox the man.

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AnOminous said:
If you're a big shot law firm with a lot of cash reserves? Sure. As long as it looks like it could pan out eventually, it's worth it. Most small town lawyers without a lot of cash and time to burn would have given up on it with that kind of aggressive defense from a scummy insurance company. This is why Nationwide acted the way they did.
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So contingency fee arrangements are not big in the US @AnOminous? Most PI firms up here operate on CFA. The smart ones don't take the "dog with fleas" cases tho. But the firm will fund the disbursements and recover that and the % on settlement.

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He's not gonna sue the farms though if that's what you're getting at. What's he gonna get, Nulls computer? My old underwear? I don't think my insurance even covers being sued.
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Noooooo, they think the RR is behind it! They are going after the trains!!!!!
 
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Thundersteam said:
Personally, I think it would be a good policy not to refer to any lolcow as a "confirmed pedophile" unless that person has a bonafide conviction in a court of law and is a Registered Sex Offender.
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Thought he was confirmed. My bad, I apologize.
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There have been numerous, seemingly credible, allegations that Leonard F. Shaner, Jr. has acted in a leering, inappropriate manner towards numerous underage females. These activities could easily be construed as pedophilia and thus we are perfectly within our legal rights to refer to Leonard F. Shaner, Jr. as a "pedophile." If a reasonable person would view the number and consistency of the allegations as credible enough to constitute adequate "confirmation" of the claim (I do), then it is perfectly acceptable to refer to Leonard F. Shaner, Jr. as a "confirmed pedophile."

Nevertheless, it is also true that Leonard F. Shaner, Jr. has not (yet) been convicted of (or even charged with) any pedophilia-related crimes. Therefore, it is a good policy to not refer to Leonard F. Shaner, Jr. as a "convicted pedophile" because that is not true and would (potentially) expose the writer to liability for libel/defamation.

Autistbox said:
Crikey, AnOminous AND Boldspicy mentioned it, it sounds like Hy's son was the lead lawyer. A question for the legal Kiwis, is taking on a case that long without payment normal? Sounded weird to me but I have no idea.
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Perfectly normal. Also, that $3 million in attorney's fees (plus c. $6 million for the contingency fee) will (1) have to be split multiple ways, and (2) probably be reduced on (yet another) appeal. The verdict seems to be a tad disproportionate. At least from where I'm sitting.
 
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Sanae Kochiya said:
I absolutely loved what one of the lawyers said in that, so I'm posting it directly here in the topic for Len to read because I think he might need the advice. The snapshot is edited so I don't dox the man.

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"Captain Gangplank
Personal Injury Lawyer
Licensed in Bilgewater, Valoran"

For some reason I don't think that's actually his name or location where he practices.
 
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Perfectly normal. Also, that $3 million in attorneys fees (plus c. $6 million for the contingency fee) will (1) have to be split multiple ways, and (2) probably be reduced on (yet another) appeal. The verdict seems to be a tad disproportionate. At least from where I'm sitting.
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Is the case worth a read? Was it a liability fight or bad faith type deal by the insurers?
 
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Saul Goodman said:
These activities could easily be construed as pedophilia and thus we are perfectly within our legal rights to refer to Leonard F. Shaner, Jr. as a "pedophile."
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Therefore, it is a good policy to not refer to Leonard F. Shaner, Jr. as a "convicted pedophile"
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His new title shall be "Likely Pedophile."
 
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Sanae Kochiya said:
Give it 50 days or a couple more afterward, and we might have to change that to "Prison Bitch."
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Oh yeah, he could get his ass hauled to prison before he's able to start up his almost nonexistent "lawsuit" against us.
It's nice when life works out that way.

EDIT: On his "Taking Down Kiwi Farms" page, Shaner said that him/Flxable were a member of the "Real FBI", remember?
Isn't impersonating an FBI officer, like, highly illegal?
He's fucked if he takes this to court (and please tell me someone screen capped this so he doesn't take it down once he realizes what he's done).
 
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I just like how we got Len so angry that right at this moment he's probably muttering about the Farms, probably rocking back and forth at the same time too. We own that much of his head space just for keeping this page up. Better yet, we have a lawyer on the prowl too, trying to get info here directly so he can spam the court with it.
 
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