Let's quit smoking! - (screaming internally)

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Communism4Dummies said:
Makes me wonder if nicotine has a forever hold on your brain.
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It does tbh.
Quit smoking almost 10 years ago and while I don't crave cigs daily anymore, there's still situations and times where I really do.
The weirdest part for me is dreaming about smoking again - the cravings after waking up are the worst.
 
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POWER IN MISERY said:
quitting is hell on earth
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I'm not trying to say your experience isn't real, or even singling you out, but I've been thinking about this sentiment.

If not for the overwhelming, always repeated "quitting is so fucking hard it's almost impossible, you need 10/10 mental fortitude, you need to prepare with this and that to even stand a chance" oral tradition I would have quit sooner. But I bought into that shit so much and for so long that I was always bringing myself down, always kind of letting go of hope, always defaulting on failure. Of course it was my own fault, eating up that shit and filtering it through my own addiction, but it was always the one true mentality that nobody should challenge.

I'm really happy for that one friend who said "it's not that big of a deal, just be a gladiator for a couple of days and take a fucking beating, then the worst is over. Cravings will come but they will also go".

I needed to hear it was easier than I thought. And so it was, although I never would have dared to believe that just a few years ago. It wasn't a fearsome unconquerable mountain after all, it was a hill. I might be in the minority but if someone needs to hear shit like this, there you go.

Anyways God bless you all filthy weirdos.
 
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Swine Schwein said:
I'm not trying to say your experience isn't real, or even singling you out, but I've been thinking about this sentiment.

If not for the overwhelming, always repeated "quitting is so fucking hard it's almost impossible, you need 10/10 mental fortitude, you need to prepare with this and that to even stand a chance" oral tradition I would have quit sooner. But I bought into that shit so much and for so long that I was always bringing myself down, always kind of letting go of hope, always defaulting on failure. Of course it was my own fault, eating up that shit and filtering it through my own addiction, but it was always the one true mentality that nobody should challenge.

I'm really happy for that one friend who said "it's not that big of a deal, just be a gladiator for a couple of days and take a fucking beating, then the worst is over. Cravings will come but they will also go".

I needed to hear it was easier than I thought. And so it was, although I never would have dared to believe that just a few years ago. It wasn't a fearsome unconquerable mountain after all, it was a hill. I might be in the minority but if someone needs to hear shit like this, there you go.

Anyways God bless you all filthy weirdos.
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I think also knowing the physical side effects and mitigating them can help. Sleeplessness and constipation were the worst for me, but I knew in advance and got stuff to help.

Keeping busy helps. I locked myself at home for three days, took stuff to help the insomnia and needing to poop, and deep cleaned my home. Laundered all my bedding, and got it all out on the line to dry in the sun, which helped, as it washed off last remnants of the smell.

Also something I was told helped a lot, too. Basically nicotine dulls the effects of caffeine so if you consume a lot of that, cut down the caffeine when you stop smoking too. Otherwise you'll be wired on caffeine and that on top of quitting smoking will be unpleasent. Sure it might help with constipation but coffee shits are the worst.

It's as big a deal as a person chooses to make of it, and mindset and a desire to push through help massively, more than anything else in my exoerience. It wasn't easy, but no way was it the huge, arduous slog I was told to expect before I read up on it and reframed it all in my mind.
 
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Swine Schwein said:
I'm not trying to say your experience isn't real, or even singling you out, but I've been thinking about this sentiment.

If not for the overwhelming, always repeated "quitting is so fucking hard it's almost impossible, you need 10/10 mental fortitude, you need to prepare with this and that to even stand a chance" oral tradition I would have quit sooner. But I bought into that shit so much and for so long that I was always bringing myself down, always kind of letting go of hope, always defaulting on failure. Of course it was my own fault, eating up that shit and filtering it through my own addiction, but it was always the one true mentality that nobody should challenge.

I'm really happy for that one friend who said "it's not that big of a deal, just be a gladiator for a couple of days and take a fucking beating, then the worst is over. Cravings will come but they will also go".

I needed to hear it was easier than I thought. And so it was, although I never would have dared to believe that just a few years ago. It wasn't a fearsome unconquerable mountain after all, it was a hill. I might be in the minority but if someone needs to hear shit like this, there you go.

Anyways God bless you all filthy weirdos.
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I think society puts the "OMG it is so hard to quit" out there on purpose. Keeps the nigger cattle docile and pliant if they're constantly gagging for their next nicotine fix be it vaping, chaw, snus or a cigarette.


I read a great quote on the davd icke forums a long time back just before quitting about "we put this stuff into our bodies with societies blessing and encouragement because they don't want us to ever realize we are totally capable and ave the potent already in us to face life"
 
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BongoMongo said:
I think society puts the "OMG it is so hard to quit" out there on purpose. Keeps the nigger cattle docile and pliant if they're constantly gagging for their next nicotine fix be it vaping, chaw, snus or a cigarette.


I read a great quote on the davd icke forums a long time back just before quitting about "we put this stuff into our bodies with societies blessing and encouragement because they don't want us to ever realize we are totally capable and ave the potent already in us to face life"
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The reptilian thing might be weird but he really hit a home run with this one. I personally never really liked nicotine but maybe I don't have the correct personality or brain chemistry to enjoy it. And those fake plastic cigarette things are fucking everywhere, and contain far more nicotine than normal cigarettes, so you might not be doing yourself a favor switching over to those as much as you think.
 
Suggestion: Try using niacin/niacinamide to supress cigarette cravings and help with withdrawal effects. Keep those nicotinic receptors in your brain busy.
 
I got a bitch strain of covid 10 days ago & have not wanted to touch a vape since, just had a small nic lozenge a couple times. Some nasty shit has been coming out of my respiratory system the past few days. My lungs must be saturated with all that PG/VG & coloring. Going all day for several days with no nicotine makes me think now is the time to give it up.
 
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Vaping works. I know it's treated as a meme but statistically countries that allow vaping and the sale of legitimate vaping products had their percentage of smokers plummet.

I have seen it happen close to me irl too. Several friends switched to learning how to use rebuildable atomizers, make their own coils, make their own vaping fluid or get it from reputable sellers, all to minimize waste (fuck anything commercial/disposable) and they quit smoking in a year, then eventually got bored of vaping too.

It seriously works. But goverments/etc don't want it to spread and that's why they launch campaign after campaign against it. It's not because it's bad. It's because it helps people quit smoking and they would no longer get a cut from tobacco sales. Why would you want your army of zombie addicts to get better and not give you money anymore?
 
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I took up smoking during the pandemic. It was an excuse to go outside and socialize at work and have no one bat the eye when you take an extra 5mins coming back. I was able to quit for a year and then when I had to move back in with my mom after my dad died I picked it back up. I smoke 2 packs a day and I supplement it with hash to waste the cigarettes
 
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I've only been a cigar smoker for about three months but I'm thinking of packing it in or dramatically reducing how much. My conscience was telling me that my throat was too sore too often for that crap to be good for me. Lately I have a constant cough and mucus, and it could be sickness or allergies or something, but a friend actually asked me today on a hike if I was a smoker. I thought I was doing perfectly fine - I was breathing heavily because I was talking a mile a minute - but that alarmed me enough to accept that I probably need to go down to once a week, once a month, or none at all.

It was working wonders for me mentally, but I think I can isolate the good aspects from it (like taking time to sit on my porch and listen to music, doing breathing exercises, meditating) from the drug, even if it's not the same experience.

I know I'm probably out of place/don't belong here, assume this is more about cigarette addicts quitting.
 
Met with a few old friends last week and one of them was still smoking. Have not been smoking myself for almost 3 years. Ended up smoking 4-5 cigs that night. strangely, I didn't feel sick doing it. In fact, it felt pretty good. still not had a smoke since and no cravings for more whatsoever. Its nice.
 
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Sebben Crudele II said:
Vaping works. I know it's treated as a meme but statistically countries that allow vaping and the sale of legitimate vaping products had their percentage of smokers plummet.

I have seen it happen close to me irl too. Several friends switched to learning how to use rebuildable atomizers, make their own coils, make their own vaping fluid or get it from reputable sellers, all to minimize waste (fuck anything commercial/disposable) and they quit smoking in a year, then eventually got bored of vaping too.

It seriously works. But goverments/etc don't want it to spread and that's why they launch campaign after campaign against it. It's not because it's bad. It's because it helps people quit smoking and they would no longer get a cut from tobacco sales. Why would you want your army of zombie addicts to get better and not give you money anymore?
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I am a chronic vape abuser since 2019. I have read multiple papers on it and it seems mostly safe. Although I was listening to joe rogan talk about what VG is made of. I am a little pissed rn as I hate soy and palm oils. Just one thing to maybe consider. Still miles better than smoking but these oils are not good either.

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If you're in the US they sell these things now

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No tobacco, just nicotine. One of the usual problems with nicotine replacement products is that they're absorbed too slowly compared to smoking. These things hit like a fucking truck though.
 
I used to be mad addicted to those pouches. Partially because you can have one in when in places where smoking/vaping wouldn't be permitted. Caused gum issues amongst other things.

Saying that they're great if all you want to do is quit smoking or vaping. They really got me through some tough moments.

Currently 9 months without nicotine. I'd be lying if I said I didn't think about going back pretty often but I'm feeling good about myself for doing it. I certainly don't want to deal with feeling trapped in the addiction again, and it's way easier now I'm not in chemical withdrawal.

Just bunker down as much as life allows, and get through the first week. It gets easier to counter the bits of you want to give in to it.
 
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Smoking was hard to quit because it was awesome. It's a social habit that also doubled as an excuse to remove myself from uncomfortable social situations, it kept me laser focused on tasks, and it paired well with liquor and tasted good as well (I had an asian ciggy hookup).

I think people need an actual reason to want to quit that isn't "my health" or "for the kids", as (in my experience) quitting out of guilt usually results in tossing the pack out and then digging through the trash later to retrieve it.

IMO reasons that will actually motivate you to quit cold turkey are selfish and need to be having a noticeable negative impact on your life.

Examples:

Hair loss/shittier hair
Stained teeth/perma yellow teeth
Rapidly aging skin/thinning collagen
Actively contributing to ED/reduced sensitivity for women
Reduced physical performance for the gym bros and brahs.

It only takes a couple of days to a week to quit unless you are at the stage where your body shits itself if it doesn't have nicotene. You will still have dreams and random waking psyops from your brain to try to get you to smoke again (for the rest of your life), but the difference is like a friend nagging you ocassionally versus screaming in your ear.

If you slip up due to depression, boredom, peer pressure, that's okay, cause I did twice (once when I was 6 months cold turkey), and was able to quit easier and easier each time using my selfish, but effective, personal reason as motivation.
 
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