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[Fake PNG Checkerboard]

I tell everyone in my life I'm straight because the majority of gay people are insane degens and I am not associating with that.

 

[crackers breakfast]

A dude I was into tried to get me to wear diapers with him.

those niggas need to be hanged

 

[Fishnumm]

those niggas need to be hanged

damned sickos

i have another question what do homos think of the song "money for nothing" i think it fucking rocks

 

[souschef]

damned sickos

i have another question what do homos think of the song "money for nothing" i think it fucking rocks

Dire Straits is cool

Dad rock in general is cool

 

[Spark the Electric Jester]

those niggas need to be hanged

I'm all for second chances, forgiveness etc for religious reasons, but I'd be lying if I said it wouldn't be cool for diapers to stop being normalized sexually. Fucking babies? Why babies.

 

[souschef]

Diapers and sex are not normalized

I've never seen any case of diaperfags in my country and doubt they'd have 1% of the acceptance they have in the united states

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

Here's the thing though, you see lots of these incel guys you mentioned, and they'll go on about how they want a "femboy bf" or shit like that. The kicker is, you femboy bf sometimes will not shave, he'll have a 5 or clock. He might not be feeling like wearing those stupid maid outfits. Age comes to us all, and he eventually won't be that androgynous anymore. I really don't care about the incels suddenly realizing they're not into men, but i feel very sorry for people that embrace this aesthetic to feel validated

This femboy stuff in the end is just an emotional trap for young gay men to be targeted by perverted porn addicted freaks, i see it happening a lot

Literally this scenario

I hate the concept of femboys ever since it came out in on tiktok in 2020. It started with twinks dancing in maid outfits then morphed into a chicks-with-dicks fetish since they are are all tranny lite at peak form. Ironically, femboys look more like trannies than actual troons.

Its also one of gripes with anime. In anime, many guys looks like a young, flawless, slim, androgynous twink with perfect skin, no facial hair and never gets old. Reality isn't like that and for guys who fall into the femboy trap loose everything once their looks fade with age. The fantasy breaks. My point is, if you are autistic and coombrained, anime is going to fuck up your perceptions of what people and sex are supposed to look like. Alas, nothing I can do about it except point and laugh.

 

[ilovecornsyrup]

Its also one of gripes with anime. In anime, many guys looks like a young, flawless, slim, androgynous twink with perfect skin, no facial hair and never gets old. Reality isn't like that and for guys who fall into the femboy trap loose everything once their looks fade with age. The fantasy breaks. My point is, if you are autistic and coombrained, anime is going to fuck up your perceptions of what people and sex are supposed to look like. Alas, nothing I can do about it except point and laugh.

Disagree, this is a pedo psyop. Androgyny doesn't fade with age (unless you grow a beard and go bald). Looks don't fade until 45-50 if you care about them. You just stop looking like a child somewhere in your early 20s to 30s depending on your genetics. Gay pedophiles obviously hate this but normal people regardless of orientation don't mind.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

I think every non-straight person should be presented with a reasonably average dick before they get to check the box of their supposed sexuality.

Or at least have to kiss a guy. If they can do that and don't say afterwards "I enjoyed that" they're not gay. That's how one of my friends figured his shit out. He went on a date, kissed the guy, and felt nothing so he figured out he really was completely straight since he said kissing a girl actually moved the needle.

 

[Spark the Electric Jester]

Diapers and sex are not normalized

I've never seen any case of diaperfags in my country and doubt they'd have 1% of the acceptance they have in the united states

In furry spaces, where I'm usually hanging out, it's often normalized. I understand the whole "if it's two fully functioning consenting adults, who cares?" point, but at some point the intent has to be questioned. I agree with letting adults do what they want, but people into diapers, let alone cartoon kids, need fucking help, not reinforcement that it's okay. If someone is unrepentant about it, fuck that person, part of healing is knowing when something is wrong.

Or at least have to kiss a guy. If they can do that and don't say afterwards "I enjoyed that" they're not gay. That's how one of my friends figured his shit out. He went on a date, kissed the guy, and felt nothing so he figured out he really was completely straight since he said kissing a girl actually moved the needle.

I kissed a dude and then went on to blow him. Can we cement that I'm a homogay? Thnks

 

[awoo]

Disagree, this is a pedo psyop. Androgyny doesn't fade with age (unless you grow a beard and go bald). Looks don't fade until 45-50 if you care about them. You just stop looking like a child somewhere in your early 20s to 30s depending on your genetics. Gay pedophiles obviously hate this but normal people regardless of orientation don't mind.

Maybe because I have grown up around (east) asian people but some seem to age remarkably well compared to others. People think my sister is in college when it's been like a decade since that. Actually people have asked my mom if I'm in college too when it's already been a few years of having a job after graduating, but I find it very difficult to determine what age I look like. My dad is retired and has most of his black hair. So I have always been really bad at guessing people's ages because some people especially drinkers look old for their age. Maybe anime in Japan has literally a different societal point of reference. Asians actually are skinny compared to Americans ive noticed on vacation.

 

[California Newt]

Are any of the stories here really like that, though? Most of them seem to be "I went on a date/had sex with them, then did not want to see them again." I'm not really seeing any "actually, I never liked them to begin with" which is straight-up foid behavior and I hate it too, for the record.

That's a good way to put it: "foid-ism."

but theres a difference between looking back on a sexual partner and saying 'that was poor judgement, I would not do that again because I realized that guy has some issues' vs saying 'this guy was awful from the beginning and I'm great and superior even though me and him bumped crotches.' Correct me if I'm wrong but most of these stories sit squarely in the former category.

Tbh I have no idea what you are on about. The stories I talked about where from a time where I lowered my standards in an attempt to feel wanted, and in no way implied I was some amazing person or above those guys. Bad dates are bad dates, and can happen to and be perpetuated by literally anyone. Pretty sure the other stories are of the same vein, in that they went on a date (or a few), and learned some weird shit about the person, and then stopped.

I didn't mean to make it an accusation, although I get that it read that way. This is why I made sure to twice clarify that what I was talking about didn't necessarily apply to what you were saying.

That said, I do think that the custom of having sex with people before knowing them long enough to make the determination about them does cause the same problems. As @synthetic_glazer said, it's a judgement problem. There may not be foid-esque motivations, but it still creates foid-esque outcomes.

It's not an accusation; the conversation just reminded me of something that grinds my gears.

idk what bad dates has to do with chess or even your e-orgy story tho

I'm just saying that sex and games both need a certain kind of sportsmanship and good-faith reciprocity, and that there are attitudes and ways-of-going-about-things that undermine it. I don't want to say "intimacy" because that implies a gooey emotional side, but I mean a similar kind of reciprocal authenticity and "being-on-the-level". I guess you could call it the feeling that comes from a unity of purpose.

—Just remembered I actually know way more precise terms for this that should make my point clearer:"Hetarios" and "philia". Those are the words I'm looking for:

Spoiler: "philia" and "hetarios"

This is from Fr. Pavel Florensky (Russian; polymath; martyred in gulag) in "The Pillar and Ground of Truth". C.S. Lewis made a similar distinction in "The Four Loves" between Friendship (philia) and what he called "clubbableness" (essentially hetarios). Notably, C.S. Lewis made the distinction that philia is a unity of purpose based on a goal that's deeper and more personal than the kinds that bind people into clubbableness/hetarios. It's distinct from but related to eros (yearning in general, sexual or otherwise), although the two authors don't line up on exactly how. Fr. Florensky doesn't divorce philia from eros:



Both of these guys were writing about the multiple Greek terms for love and their different senses. Fr. Florensky apparently was trying to work through his own issues and find the correct expression for what he was feeling, and C.S. Lewis was trying to do something similar (but for the West instead of himself—presumably): He thought that philia had basically disappeared in Anglo (and probably broadly Western) culture.

My complaint is about practices and attitudes that undermine philia (and even hetarios). C.S. Lewis touched on the looming specter of homosexuality undermining philia for straights (even if that specter is only in their own minds), but it seems like the situation is often even worse among gays just for game-theory reasons.

That's not even getting into moid-foid relations, which are so bad that you can just call a lot of these patterns "foid-esque".

In a thread of literal cocksuckers you managed to be the gayest one. I applaud you

I have no opinion on that.

I wonder how much of that is hentai, too. Cuz a lot of art of femboys or traps or whatever can take a lot of artistic liberties since it's, y'know, art. The art (depending on the artist and style and whatever) can often times give the femboys proportions and shapes that don't really exist in men irl, so the coomers who goon to these are internalizing a hyperfeminized version of a male body without realizing that it isn't possible. Like something closer to a woman's body with male genitalia than an actual feminine man.

I don't understand the femboy and "twink" guys. They want these wormy little grublike soy creatures. I never really understood most of the anime girl stuff either though (unless they look like an obviously adult human woman), so maybe it's related to that.

 

[FattyMcFatterson]

They already make chocolate flavored lube, it isn't necessary to violate a bottle of chocolate syrup like that

Its been decades since Ive used any chocolate flavored sex items, so maybe toy tech has improved, but the free chocolate condoms from the school library or community dropin center did not taste like chocolate. Also kinda gross imo to have anything brown near genitals.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

first introductions to the fact that trying to have a normal, healthy monogamous gay relationship is like trying to find a unicorn

Wdym? That guy managed to find two of them at the same time.

 

[Tanuki Mixed Nuts]

90% of the rest of KF thinks 90% of you are degenerate groomer retards that were most likely touched by your uncles or peepaws, it is incredibly funny to fuck around with a tiny subsection on a forum that is for the most part, vehemently against alphabet people. This isn’t a sexual preference, it’s a disease of coom or subconscious abuse.

Wow, opinions on a website that's cwazy. I'll remember to pass everything I think or do by every user of the farms before I post next time, since we all have to have some overwhelming consensus on literally everything apparently. Faggot.

I wonder how much of that is hentai, too. Cuz a lot of art of femboys or traps or whatever can take a lot of artistic liberties since it's, y'know, art. The art (depending on the artist and style and whatever) can often times give the femboys proportions and shapes that don't really exist in men irl, so the coomers who goon to these are internalizing a hyperfeminized version of a male body without realizing that it isn't possible. Like something closer to a woman's body with male genitalia than an actual feminine man.

Yeah, the disconnect of art, or even just photos with their angles and airbrushing, is a huge factor. Remove every negative aspect of something and suddenly it's easier to warp your sexuality to be more accepting.

That said, I do think that the custom of having sex with people before knowing them long enough to make the determination about them does cause the same problems. As @synthetic_glazer said, it's a judgement problem. There may not be foid-esque motivations, but it still creates foid-esque outcomes.

That's just generally the race to the bottom aspect of modern dating, I'd say. Like the general line of thought would likely be that compared to strangers before dating apps, you can now immediately know far more about someone you go on a single date with just by reading a dating profile, or stalking their social media before the date, vs. what you would've been able to learn on multiple dates with an otherwise stranger in the past. Though, to be fair, the past also primarily had people dating others they knew from hometowns, work, etc. so they weren't exactly strangers.

I'm just saying that sex and games both need a certain kind of sportsmanship and good-faith reciprocity, and that there are attitudes and ways-of-going-about-things that undermine it. I don't want to say "intimacy" because that implies a gooey emotional side, but I mean a similar kind of reciprocal authenticity and "being-on-the-level". I guess you could call it the feeling that comes from a unity of purpose.

This could very well be something more inherent to gay men, as they are far more flippant with sexual shit, but also a trend in society towards a more dopamine-seeking style of "dating". Like, women on Tindr don't do this with sex, but it's well known women would just go on a "date" for free food, and then ghost the guy, because they wouldn't ever have to interact with him ever again after the "date". When it goes back to the sexual side, it could be that "giving up sex" to someone else is easier than becoming emotionally vulnerable for a number of people. We've all heard of the idea of people being wary of saying "I love you" to quick, and I think that is a sort of ancestor to whatever it is this emotional/sexual intimacy imbalance is.

Actually, as I was about to hit post reply I was reminded of the idea of how prostitutes would be willing to do everything violating etc. but not kiss the johns. The kiss would be more a violation than getting pissed on or sodomized for them. Very much a lack of shame and oversexualization that causes that style of thought, if I had to guess. Which would make sense for the homo parallel.

 

[souschef]

Actually, as I was about to hit post reply I was reminded of the idea of how prostitutes would be willing to do everything violating etc. but not kiss the johns. The kiss would be more a violation than getting pissed on or sodomized for them. Very much a lack of shame and oversexualization that causes that style of thought, if I had to guess. Which would make sense for the homo parallel.

Sex without kissing isn't really sex imo

 

[California Newt]

Sex without kissing isn't really sex imo

Actually, as I was about to hit post reply I was reminded of the idea of how prostitutes would be willing to do everything violating etc. but not kiss the johns. The kiss would be more a violation than getting pissed on or sodomized for them. Very much a lack of shame and oversexualization that causes that style of thought, if I had to guess. Which would make sense for the homo parallel.

Apparently in the classical and ancient world kissing was seen as a means of spiritual transfer. That seems to be part of why the "kiss of peace" was such an integral part of the early Christian liturgy, although they did have to tell people to do it with a closed mouth and not get up to any funny business.



Florensky's opinion on the subject:

 

[Spark the Electric Jester]

Zelenskiy's opinion on the subject:

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[General Zoider]

In furry spaces, where I'm usually hanging out,

bruh that was your first mistake plus you need to add in the zoophiles.

 

[monk]

STRAIGHT
SQUARE
NO HOLES
TOUGH


NOT STRAIGHT
NOT SQUARE
HAS HOLES THAT STUFF CAN GO INTO
WEAK, CAN BE EASILY CRUSHED