Light sperging RE: The Food Pyramid - It's not bad, obsolete, or outdated. Its purpose is just broadly misunderstood.

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In 1972, Sweden introduced a basic set of guidelines for how to cheaply fill your nutritional needs during a time of food insecurity. A grocery store chain reframed these guidelines into a visual representation that was easy to read. This was the birth of the, largely defunct, "food pyramid" that we are all at least familiar with today. The important takeaway being that it was never intended to be the "optimal" human diet with regards to health and longevity. It was designed to minimize the overall health impact of rising food prices. It can probably best be understood with an analogy to Maslow's hierarchy of needs:
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The image on the left is basically tiers of health and happiness, with each tier below being more "strictly necessary" than the one above. Fixating on your "higher needs" when your "lower needs" are not satisfactorily fulfilled is claimed to be to your detriment. I'm not gonna waste too much space talking about it as it's all shit you probably already know anyway. It's just there to demonstrate a similar philosophy at play with the food pyramid on the right (pic related just happens to be the USDA version from 1992). Again: the advice on the pyramid is based on Sweden's guidelines on how to deal with a food shortage.
The bottom tier is cheap starches. These are proposed as your primary source of calories as calories are your first and most important consideration with regards to a planned diet and they're cheap as shit. The human body can subsist for quite some time on a nutritionally void diet so long as the energy required for basic bodily functions is consumed. A starch only diet is far from optimal, but it will keep you from dropping dead via starvation and instead you'll face the slow burnout of malnutrition.
The next tier is your other plant based foods. These are proposed as your source of micronutrients as they're relatively inexpensive and provide most of the other shit your body actually needs to function properly. Once you know you have the necessary calories for basic survival, you can begin to focus on these for the sake of your health and well being.
Above that is animal products and yogurt. These aren't "strictly necessary" (vitamin B12 is a potential counter to that claim but caveats abound) but you will be a lot healthier if you eat them in moderation than if you forgo them entirely, especially on a diet structured like this. They're more expensive though and are basically the last thing you should be worrying about health wise if food security is an issue.
The very peak is your strictly unnecessary added sugars and oils. Sure, they are a source of calories, but even the starches at bottom level provide some of the nutritional basics where you could subsist on the shit a lot longer than if you just guzzled 2000 calories worth of sugar water and canola oil every day. These might improve the quality of certain foods and encourage you to eat them. But these are the last things you should be considering if you want to make it through a food crisis.

In summary: There is no "optimal" human diet. Anything that's not obviously terrible will work just fine so long as it's not making you sick. The original goal of the food pyramid, and the guidelines it was based on, was to minimize the impact of a food shortage by focusing on what the body literally cannot operate without.
 
If whole wheat products were the only grains people ate, and if their dairy wasn't chocked full of hormones, the food pyramid actually makes a lot of sense. Keto is kindof a trap diet cause it fools people into thinking the entire concept of sugar is bunk, not just the simple, processed, concentrated sugars that make their bodies sick, like any invasive, something that processed isn't natural to intake, our bodies do the processing on their own, but if it's already blended into a fine slurry by factory equipment tedkac112191239129a9a9-700x420.jpg it goes right into the upper layers of our bodies, it feeds all the wrong bacteria leading to cancers and halitosis, and it doesn't even make it to where the flora of our gut actually needs to feed to maintain a healthy ecosystem. The body has biomes and simple sugars should only be used as a pick-me-up, since they go into the body so very quickly.

Tl;Dr: Sugar companies poison people while crying out at the fruit orchards and blaming bread
 
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A) I am going to choose to continue to dislike the food pyramid and talk shit about it because I find pyramids to be a very unnatural and ethereal type of structure and I do not like them very much. You know, the all seeing eye, Egyptian gods, pyramid head, pyramid schemes, etc. Nothing good comes from pyramid shaped things.

B) Maslow's hierarchy of needs always gave me the impression Maslow must have been kind of a degenerate, because he puts sex on the same level as breathing and eating, like if you're horny for too long you'll die and you can't move on to pursuing self esteem/confidence/achievement unless you obtain sexual intimacy first. "No you don't understand the incels have to rise up because we literally can't feel good about ourselves unless someone has sex with us".

Strikes me as a little suspicious, and researchers back in the day were pretty unhinged so I'll bet that man had some skeletons in his closet.
 
I don’t think I have ever wanted to eat 6-11 slices of grocery store bread per day and I never will.

Once I was asked to draw my ideal food pyramid as a child. I put eggs and meat in the bottom tier and fried food in the second :lol:

ETA: Chris Chans pre-incarceration food pyramid could be summed up by writing the word “McDonald’s” in a triangle.
 
Maslow's hierarchy of needs always gave me the impression Maslow must have been kind of a degenerate, because he puts sex on the same level as breathing and eating, like if you're horny for too long you'll die and you can't move on to pursuing self esteem/confidence/achievement unless you obtain sexual intimacy first. "No you don't understand the incels have to rise up because we literally can't feel good about ourselves unless someone has sex with us".

Strikes me as a little suspicious, and researchers back in the day were pretty unhinged so I'll bet that man had some skeletons in his closet.

I'll give Maslow the benefit of the doubt and assume he included sex in the bottom of the pyramid since reproduction is one of the most basic aspects of life for any organism.

Since you have to have sex to conceive a child, that's probably what he was referring to as opposed to anything beyond that.

Maslow also has sexual intimacy further up on the pyramid, so he probably was speaking in a strictly clinical/evolutionary way when he included sex as a basic need.
 
I don't buy the food Pyramid because despite me being a fatty I am not sure I could eat that much in one day without feeling fatter than I do most of the time.
 
A) I am going to choose to continue to dislike the food pyramid and talk shit about it because I find pyramids to be a very unnatural and ethereal type of structure and I do not like them very much. You know, the all seeing eye, Egyptian gods, pyramid head, pyramid schemes, etc. Nothing good comes from pyramid shaped things.

B) Maslow's hierarchy of needs always gave me the impression Maslow must have been kind of a degenerate, because he puts sex on the same level as breathing and eating, like if you're horny for too long you'll die and you can't move on to pursuing self esteem/confidence/achievement unless you obtain sexual intimacy first. "No you don't understand the incels have to rise up because we literally can't feel good about ourselves unless someone has sex with us".

Strikes me as a little suspicious, and researchers back in the day were pretty unhinged so I'll bet that man had some skeletons in his closet.
Damn you're onto something here.


The tension outside his home was also felt within it, as he rarely got along with his mother, and eventually developed a strong revulsion towards her. He is quoted as saying, "What I had reacted to was not only her physical appearance, but also her values and world view, her stinginess, her total selfishness, her lack of love for anyone else in the world—even her own husband and children—her narcissism, her Negro prejudice, her exploitation of everyone, her assumption that anyone was wrong who disagreed with her, her lack of friends, her sloppiness and dirtiness...". He also grew up with few friends other than his cousin Will...

In 1928, he married his first cousin Bertha, who was still in high school at the time.

At Wisconsin he pursued a line of research which included investigating primate dominance behavior and sexuality.
 
I don't have time to make a detailed post, but optimal nutrition will depend on your age, sex, genes, gut microbiome, activity level, and current conditions (underweight? overweight? pregnant? wound healing? building muscle?), and skimping on micronutrients will cause long-term problems and/or other issues that won't be recognized for what they are. Trying to make one diet for everyone is a complete fool's errand, and the FDA makes it worse by setting the amounts of most micronutrients at a level of "enough to keep you from developing a blatantly obvious Third World disease like scurvy". Accordingly the "food pyramid" should be completely ignored. Anyone who followed ADF (Phil) in his glory days will also have profound doubts about Maslow and his hierarchy of needs after seeing a man put "stupid ugly tattoos with Google translated Spanish" above housing.
 
You're supposed to flip the pyramid.

Have some steak with that butter.
 
No, food pyramid is just objectively terrible advice. Look at heart attack rates (+ obesity, diabetes, alzheimer's, etc) over time in the US and European countries like Sweden, it has just kept going up since the early 1900's and even more post-pyramid. The fact that at the same time there has been a dietary shift away from animal products (and within animal products, away from ruminants and towards the less healthy chicken/pork, often breaded & fried with vegetables oils e.g. McNuggets, chicken sandwiches, etc) and towards the extremely unnatural, highly-processed vegetable oils (which literally produce toxic chemicals when heated) and refined carbs/sugar, exactly as prescribed by the pyramid, is not just a coincidence.
 
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