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You don't want those in a case like this. It's a front-to-back design, if you look at it from the side and draw arrows for how the air will move through it, you'll see that air comes in at the front, goes through the GPU and CPU, and exits at the back and side. That's actually exactly what you want. If there had been ventilation on the top a lot of the air would exit the case before passing the CPU, cooling nothing at all really (well, maybe the RAM, but that doesn't need more than very mild airflow, which it gets from the CPU cooler anyway). It's not how a gaming PC would typically be laid out, but it's a perfectly good way to do it nonetheless, especially when the computer is rarely going to draw more than 200W anyway.
It's still a shit case. You're right that at least the airflow has a decent path, but that doesn't change the fact that the restricted intake in a case like that needs to be overcome with increased fan RPM, which just means needlessly more noise.

It also doesn't appear to even have a basic dust filter over the intake, so even if the case were designed worth a shit to avoid having air being drawn in unnecessarily from other locations of the case, it's still going to end up full of dust. You mention it's better than the old alienware cases, which is true but if the bar is already that low it's basically irrelevant. That being said, they cheaped out on the cooling but as evident in the video and pictures the fucking case still manages to be over-engineered and overbuilt which just shifts cost around rather than actually being a cheap case.
 
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cooling nothing at all really
I'm no expert but you could make the argument that it's helping the gpu exhaust not blow into the cpu, obviously redundant because it's a 4060 but I could see a potential reason.
low-end computer
That's not an excuse though. An actually decent case is no more expensive than a shit one, admittedly a lot of the good cases have top exhaust which might not be great with the dogshit cpu cooler but there's a reason why those things aren't even being included with cpus anymore. It's not like drilling 100 holes instead of 50 is going to cost that much extra, you've already got the metal in your drilling machine anyway, just finish the job, dell clearly have some level of manufacturing capability, they're just being lazy. It just looks like more sloppy dell reusing old shit and planned obsolescence again. The case seemingly has no front io and it's just built into the mobo (from what I can see at least, it's a bit hard to tell being this retard wants to focus on the environmental impact of foam instead of the important shit) and even if it did it's a bad design. There is no reason in the current day to build a pc in anything other than atx size with a proper mesh front panel in a case made by people who know what they're doing. The case is almost always the cheapest thing anyway, an extra 10-20usd to get a good case is meaningless when you're spending 1300usd on everything else.
 
"plenty of ventilation" he says while looking at a front panel half blocked off for absolutely no reason.
gaming is one of the few things that doesnt need skits or bullshit. is there a market for kids who want to buy a case and care about some faggot doing le funny things instead of "number is better than number and price point" who watches this dreck
 
what it has is perfectly adequate for what it is.
The difference is that a good case doesn't cost extra and will remain good for as long as atx is standard, so one more gpu generation at the rate they're increasing in size. There are reasons not to add nitrous to your ford focus. There are no reasons to use a shit case. When I was a kid my parents bought me a prebuilt with as much proprietary bullshit and pointlessly shitty airflow as this dell one, when I grew up and wanted to upgrade it I couldn't do anything with it and had to throw it away and spend another 200usd or so on things that I should already have spare.
 
The case is almost always the cheapest thing anyway, an extra 10-20usd to get a good case
See, here's the thing: They could make the case $20-$30 cheaper by just using off-the-shelf mATX boxes instead of redesigning the fucking wheel every six months with this proprietary fagshit. Same for the motherboards - just use mATX. MSI has a service where they'll make all the mATX boards you could ever ask for with your branding and your shitty obsolete BIOS and everything else you'll ever want and it'll be cheaper than this proprietary fagshit HP and Dell do.
 
See, here's the thing: They could make the case $20-$30 cheaper by just using off-the-shelf mATX boxes instead of redesigning the fucking wheel every six months with this proprietary fagshit. Same for the motherboards - just use mATX. MSI has a service where they'll make all the mATX boards you could ever ask for with your branding and your shitty obsolete BIOS and everything else you'll ever want and it'll be cheaper than this proprietary fagshit HP and Dell do.
I can guarantee you that this case is cheaper than using an off-the-shelf one, they wouldn't be doing this stuff otherwise. Dell is all about making the product as cheap as possible, it's their whole business model.
Dell assembles their own motherboards (and graphics cards, and a whole bunch of other things). That means they actually save some money on both components and final assembly by integrating the front case IO into the motherboard. That's also why they use weird cooler mounting mechanisms, they can save a bit of money by using the same milled aluminium sink they use for Intel on AMD. Likewise with the power supplies. Dell are pretty big in the enterprise market. I'm sure most of their consumer stuff is just side projects the server engineers put together between their actual work. Server designers are no strangers to weird proprietary things, and since they already have a bunch of really good power supplies from the other side of the business, they can just throw those into the consumer desktops. Yeah they have to put proprietary 12V connectors on the motherboards, but they're already doing that for the servers anyway, and again it saves a bit of money.

It's not all bad for the consumer. Those Dell PSU's are likely a fair bit higher quality than what you get from Corsair or beQuiet.
 
Those Dell PSU's are likely a fair bit higher quality
Reliability is certainly at the forefront, not sure I'd call 'indestructibly mid' quality, but that's just arguing semantics and preferences. Dell basically depends on recurrent B2B transactions in the hundreds to thousands of computers range, on nice rolling lifecycles providing predictable revenues. Even one exploded PSU or Battery would be a serious contract killer, corporate insurance is expensive and that company is going to be mad that you just forced them to pay out for making jerry carry a bomb with him to the office every day before it took his hand off. Anything even vaguely faildeadly, they'll make damn sure doesn't die.
 
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See, here's the thing: They could make the case $20-$30 cheaper by just using off-the-shelf mATX boxes instead of redesigning the fucking wheel every six months with this proprietary fagshit. Same for the motherboards - just use mATX. MSI has a service where they'll make all the mATX boards you could ever ask for with your branding and your shitty obsolete BIOS and everything else you'll ever want and it'll be cheaper than this proprietary fagshit HP and Dell do.
The proprietary hardware like the motherboard and PSU are fine. No one buying a dell "gaming" computer is ever going to be doing a motherboard swap, and the board is probably shared with a dozen other models in their product line, same with the PSU(that's why I didn't comment on the board and PSU). About the only "upgrades" that might ever happen to one of those machines in the real world is throwing in a 2nd stick of RAM(which is why for the consumer buying this going with 1 stick is a cost savings and benefit), adding a SATA HDD(Linus talking about "content creation" with these things is laughable), and maybe a videocard swap a few years down the road that'll end up bottlenecked by the CPU that they're never going to replace.

That said... yes they could just use standard PSUs and boards across the line as well that would fit in a normal ATX case and just use a normal ATX case. But quality isn't a concern with regard to those components, it's the case itself that is the worst part.
 
About the only "upgrades" that might ever happen to one of those machines in the real world is throwing in a 2nd stick of RAM(which is why for the consumer buying this going with 1 stick is a cost savings and benefit), adding a SATA HDD(Linus talking about "content creation" with these things is laughable), and maybe a videocard swap a few years down the road that'll end up bottlenecked by the CPU that they're never going to replace.
Yeah I think a lot of tech enthusiasts are a bit OTT with their love of the modular PC ecosystem. It’s good for those enthusiasts who have some kind of ship of theseus pc constantly being upgraded. The benefits are much more limited for people like myself & many others who upgrade so rarely that the entire system is obsolete by that time. All the “ewaste” posturing is a little retarded coming from the biggest consumers of electronic junk (and therefore producers of ewaste).

I agree the “aand a little bit of streaming content creation” that LTT always add onto the usecase in their videos is so fucking dumb. Like that’s the percentage of people doing that? 1%? It’s just a self-insert.
 
I'm not an expert on Dell or prebuilts since I'm more software based, but the ewaste argument I find often comical as I see no-one talking about TPM enforcement that will likely be coming to Windows in the next couple of years. Most modern motherboards have TPM now, but my understanding is a lot of these education and business units that were bought in bulk years ago for those use cases don't include TPM. This would lead to the only options being to upgrade the hardware (aka bulk buy a whole new set of them with TPM), or boot an alternative OS without the enforcement like Linux.

As far as I can tell, when the enforcement kicks in, this is going to create a huge amount of ewaste far greater than anything related to proprietary Mobo's or PSU's, yet I see basically no one talking about it. Is there something I'm missing, or are people just ignorant about it?
 
I agree the “aand a little bit of streaming content creation” that LTT always add onto the usecase in their videos is so fucking dumb. Like that’s the percentage of people doing that? 1%? It’s just a self-insert.
I think the way Linus (and most reviewers) do consumer "productivity" benchmarks is kinda stupid. The overhead of Nvidia NVENC for streaming/recording is so ridiculously low at this point, that you have to construct some really wacky usecases to artificially create bottlenecks.
 
Can anyone explain to me why TPM and especially TPM 2.0 are so important? What do i have to gain from it as a retarded pc user?
 
Can anyone explain to me why TPM and especially TPM 2.0 are so important? What do i have to gain from it as a retarded pc user?
IMHO It's overall gimmick. It forces people to upgrade to newer components if using windows.

Win11 sucks rocks. I run a modified Win 10 and a Win 7 (for the lols) as well as Zorin 17.0 Linux OS. This old fuck is trying to go full time into Linux, because he's not liking what he is seeing.
 
Can anyone explain to me why TPM and especially TPM 2.0 are so important? What do i have to gain from it as a retarded pc user?
The computer can use it to store codes and generate random numbers. Good random numbers are harder to come by for a computer than you might expect, and are actually really important for all manner of things. Similarly storing codes in the TPM means you can encrypt the disks so that they’ll only be unlockable in this specific computer and operating system, which in theory is good against thieves and hackers, but in practice just means Microsoft ensures you’ll lose all your data if you switch to Linux.

The TPM is basically superfluous in a properly set up system. You can get good random numbers from things like WiFi static or by hashing random stats like user interaction lag, which won’t be vulnerable to government backdoors (see dual elliptic curve encryption, which was an algorithm sold as bulletproof when the reality is it was anything but). For example the Linux kernel had a random number generator that was genuinely extremely good and secure, but when TPMs were introduced this was discarded in favour of their random numbers, which turned the random numbers from mixing together dozens of factors (making them random even if any of the components weren’t) to relying on a single factor (which is a locked box we can’t tamper with, but which we also can’t examine). You shouldn’t encrypt anything with a key you don’t actually know to begin with, it’s a sure path to data loss. Either have the user enter a key to unlock, or store the key on a removable device such as a fingerprint reader. The security aspect is basically pointless anyway because the weakest factor is always the human. If you lock your computer and I need to get in, I’ll start by trying things like your wife’s name, but if I can’t easily guess it I’ll just waterboard you until you unlock it for me.
I agree the “aand a little bit of streaming content creation” that LTT always add onto the usecase in their videos is so fucking dumb. Like that’s the percentage of people doing that? 1%? It’s just a self-insert.
It’s a Gen Z thing. Every single one of my nephews has had a ”streamer” phase where they tried to become the next Pewds. It created a few embarrassing family memes about Minecraft. Maybe 1% of them meet with any sort of humble success in their streaming endeavours, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a good 25% at least don’t consider themselves some flavour of ”content creator”.
This girl introducing herself to Dell with ”I play Minecraft and I want the computer to be able to stream” is probably pretty representative of his audience.
 
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I'm not an expert on Dell or prebuilts since I'm more software based, but the ewaste argument I find often comical as I see no-one talking about TPM enforcement that will likely be coming to Windows in the next couple of years. Most modern motherboards have TPM now, but my understanding is a lot of these education and business units that were bought in bulk years ago for those use cases don't include TPM. This would lead to the only options being to upgrade the hardware (aka bulk buy a whole new set of them with TPM), or boot an alternative OS without the enforcement like Linux.

As far as I can tell, when the enforcement kicks in, this is going to create a huge amount of ewaste far greater than anything related to proprietary Mobo's or PSU's, yet I see basically no one talking about it. Is there something I'm missing, or are people just ignorant about it?
Technically, you CAN get Windows 11 running on only TPM 1.4, which gives you compatability at least as far back as Ivy Bridge, but that requires that you modify some files on the install media either manually or through a tool like Rufus. I've gotten it running on an HP T620 Thin Client, although that's definitely not recommended for any use case heavier than a media client - the lack of an L3 cache and absolutely pitiful L2 cache on that system's AMD GX-217GA SOC, plus it being Temash-based, absolutely hobbles it for Windows. Big saving graces of those HP thin clients are that they actually come as completed hardware with an integrated cooling solution, accommodations for upgrading system RAM and storage, and an actual chassis (as opposed to just being a bare board, accessories sold separately), and that they get you about as much desktop compute power as an overclocked RasPi 4B while actually being widely available on the used market at a compelling price point of about $20/ea if you buy a lot of 5 or so - that, and being x86-64 based opens up a lot of software compatability for the fuckers and gives you more than just a handful of the most pozzed forks of Linux to work with. To my understanding, this makes them pretty popular for PFSense boxes.

Alright, give me those delicious puzzle pieces now.

ED: I will say, though, if you want a proper good PFSense box, spring for something like a 700-series HP thin client instead of the 600-series. The T730 and T740 have actual active cooling plus a full-size PCIe slot w/ about 35w of slot power, which lets you get away with installing a 10gig NIC. Active cooling also lets them run far beefier SOCs, especially with the T740's active-cooled quad-core Ryzen SOC benching at something like 4x the compute power of the T640's passive-cooled dual-core Ryzen SOC... which actually puts it pretty comfortably within spitting distance of a 14nm desktop Intel Core i7. They're actually pretty nutty for little compute boxes you can buy on the used market for under $100, and their integrated graphics aren't that bad either. The T755 is also a potential option, but... they aren't hitting the used market at good prices yet and their SOC definitely isn't enough of an improvement over the 740's to be worth paying 3x more for the system IMO.
 
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Can anyone explain to me why TPM and especially TPM 2.0 are so important? What do i have to gain from it as a retarded pc user?
TL;DR from my sperging below: You get mild to okay anti-theft (if you put a pin on it), but (insert schizo enemy here) gets your full disk encryption key, and can identify your device even after a full wipe and disk replacement.

For example the Linux kernel had a random number generator that was genuinely extremely good and secure, but when TPMs were introduced this was discarded in favour of their random numbers
Gonna need a citation on that, urandom is still based on gathered entropy last I checked the kernel source.
/dev/hwrng may be available, and that's TPM random.

You shouldn’t encrypt anything with a key you don’t actually know to begin with, it’s a sure path to data loss.
Current software that uses the TPM to encrypt (which is pretty much only full disk encryption) doesn't actually encrypt your disk with the TPM key. That would make key backup/recovery impossible, and the TPM is way too slow.

Instead, the TPM is used to encrypt one of the copies of the volume key (the symmetric key actually used to encrypt your data), and other copies of that key can be encrypted using other means, LUKS will encrypt it using a passphrase, Filevault encrypts it using the user's password, while BitLocker uses a recovery code.
You can easily export LUKS's master keys, but Filevault and Bitlocker don't let you do so easily, so a corrupt header means total data loss.

Full-disk encryption systems do that to let you have however many keys you want, like multiple passwords, use a PKCS11-compliant token as a key holder, perform a handshake with a remote device (to assert you have access to a specific network), Multiple valid TPM configurations (so you can unlock a disk on different OSes, even though the PCRs are different), or any amount, including all, of these at once.

The security aspect is basically pointless anyway because the weakest factor is always the human.
TPMs are built for specific security aspects in mind, which, funnily enough, mostly act against the human.

There's 3 of them:
- Unsealed Key
- PCR-Sealed Key
- PCR + Pin Sealed Key

The first one can be used to cryptographically prove that a machine is indeed the one communicating to the server. This is used for device identity attestation.
The second one is used to protect against low-end cold boot attacks. Sealed keys can only be used to sign/encrypt/decrypt when specific PCRs are in a specific state defined at key creation.
If you change these PCRs in any way, shape, or form, the key is sealed again (or never unsealed in the first place), and cannot be accessed, thus, preventing disk unlock.
A thief trying to boot into linux to steal data/rake passwords/perform the old accessibility->cmd.exe trick wouldn't be able to access shit, neither would most bootkits.
The last one is to protect against high-end cold boot attacks, such as BIOS replacement, SMBus injection, etc...

If you see them as a Tracking device (you don't own it, so even after a full system wipe, Microsoft can still know who you are), and as an Anti-Theft device, they're functioning as intended.
For enterprise purposes, they're pretty much a godsend. Device stolen, but it has FDE + TPM + Pin? Write it off and forget about it.

...but for the average person? they're honestly just a full disk encryption deterrent.
Why? Microsoft has a copy of your volume key. It does it automatically after the OOBE asking you to log in.
If a retard thinks they're safe because of it, the police just asks Daddy Microsoft for your VMK, and they don't even need to ask for your password to fist you inside out.
 
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as I see no-one talking about TPM enforcement that will likely be coming to Windows in the next couple of years. Most modern motherboards have TPM now, but my understanding is a lot of these education and business units that were bought in bulk years ago for those use cases don't include TPM. This would lead to the only options being to upgrade the hardware (aka bulk buy a whole new set of them with TPM), or boot an alternative OS without the enforcement like Linux.
TPM 2.0 enforcement already became a requirement for Windows 11. People were talking about it when 11 was new and while yes ways exist to bypass it, large corporations using Windows aren't going to. There is also absolutely no way that almost anything will push big companies who bulk buy cheap workstations are going to swap to Linux any time soon, most of them are using shitty old proprietary software that is 3–4 decades old now and the only thing that keeps it working (and them not having to spend money to upgrade to something new and modern) is Windows and its backwards compatibility with old shit.

I know of a company that is still using wIntergrate terminal emulation for their computer system on Windows PCs for example, because they have never moved on software wise and are emulating Wyse 55 terminals.
 
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