Long Distance Walking - Day Hikes, Through Hikes

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I just got a Garmin tracker and now I wonder why I never bought one sooner.
A fitness tracker or a satellite communicator? If the latter, which one did you get?
I've been watching some video reviews on them, but I'm unsure whether I really need one. The long distance trails in Europe I have walked or plan on walking tend to have a decent coverage 90% of the time, so I'm not sure if I can justify getting one. On the other hand, I carry a spare old smartphone in case my main one breaks, so I thought I could just replace it with a smaller GPS device.
 
I just got a Garmin tracker and now I wonder why I never bought one sooner. The amount of good info I get from this thing is amazing and it has a feature where I can send people livetracking data of where I am at hiking if I am going somewhere I don't know a lot about alone. I'm a mix of a hiker and trailrunner. My normal slog is a 8-9% grade 5 mile loop up and down around 1000ft. I stopped running for awhile and now am trying to get back into it. I tried another spot where the elevation gain was around 400ft for 6 miles and I had some success (ran about 2.5/6 miles), so I am hoping to get myself to the point I can run the whole loop again like I used to be able to. Trailrunning is fun, but I've fallen on my face a few times doing it. Rocks and roots suck balls.
Yeah, my one comes in handy, especially in winter. I can navigate fine, but it's a fucking hassle in fog/heavy rain or at night trying to deal with a map. Throwing on breadcrumbs and knowing I'll have an easy path home makes it a lot less like work.

Do you do any orienteering or maybe it isn't a thing over there?
 
A fitness tracker or a satellite communicator? If the latter, which one did you get?
I've been watching some video reviews on them, but I'm unsure whether I really need one. The long distance trails in Europe I have walked or plan on walking tend to have a decent coverage 90% of the time, so I'm not sure if I can justify getting one. On the other hand, I carry a spare old smartphone in case my main one breaks, so I thought I could just replace it with a smaller GPS device.
Satellite. I had zero internet on my hike/trailrun today but it still perfectly mapped everything out the entire two hours without interwebz. It is a Venu. There is a newer version available but I am cheap. It is also sort of useful in that you don't have to dig out your phone to read messages or other notifications. You can pay with it, but I don't get why I would do that. You can hook it up to music streaming services and listen to music and podcasts that way with it. It maps out your hike, tells you your distance, elevation gain/loss, heart rate information, there is a pulse oximeter, will map out your entire performance on your hike or run by elevation, heart rate, and cadence. It also tells time, lol. You can use it for swimming in addition to a bunch of other land based exercises. Lots of other stuff, but my phone is in the other room somewhere.

If you are looking for purely navigation though, I'd look into a unit solely for that. I can't connect back to my phone without internet or bluetooth to know exactly where I am, but it keeps perfect track. Still if you are afraid of getting lost that is not much help in the moment if you have no data on your phone in the app about that particular hike or in some other one like alltrails.

Edit: It can tell me where I am without internet, just in coordinates. I just got this and still am messing with it.

Do you do any orienteering or maybe it isn't a thing over there?
It is a thing, but I personally have never done it. :)
 
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I hike often with a full web 782 gear loadout with ass pack, (First aid kit, food), plus modified with MOLLE to carry more. Lensatic compass and laser rangefinder as well.

I keep the sheath for my KA-BAR on there but I generally leave the blade back at the lodge.
 
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Satellite. I had zero internet on my hike/trailrun today but it still perfectly mapped everything out the entire two hours without interwebz. It is a Venu. There is a newer version available but I am cheap. It is also sort of useful in that you don't have to dig out your phone to read messages or other notifications. You can pay with it, but I don't get why I would do that. You can hook it up to music streaming services and listen to music and podcasts that way with it. It maps out your hike, tells you your distance, elevation gain/loss, heart rate information, there is a pulse oximeter, will map out your entire performance on your hike or run by elevation, heart rate, and cadence. It also tells time, lol. You can use it for swimming in addition to a bunch of other land based exercises. Lots of other stuff, but my phone is in the other room somewhere.
Oh, I see, a GPS smartwatch! Looks good.
I was looking into less smart, more survivalist devices such as inReach. It does some basic navigation, tracks your position, sends a bunch of basic messages, has an SOS button and the battery is supposed to last for two weeks or so. I just don't understand why such devices cost a couple hundred bucks, lol. It would probably be a bit of an overkill for the type of trails I walk and the only reason I'm considering it is because I prefer to hike solo and at weird hours.
 
I've been doing these ever since I moved last September. So far I'm kinda discovering my surroundings, trying to find good paths that avoid me walking on paved roads, and ways to then link them back home as I like to start and end right here. Several general paths I take are around 12, 16 and 20 km, longest so far was 39km.
I really like walking solo and at the last place I lived there were just too many people all over the nature paths. In here, on the 39km trip I met - outside of the few villages I had to walk through - 1 walker, 1 cyclist, 3 on horseback. And that was on a perfect weather day and visiting several points of interest including a castle ruin.
As for the depressions or bad moods when walking, I get these before I start, and sometimes it takes a lot to actually set out, but just 15 minutes later I can't believe I even hesitated.
 
I've been doing these ever since I moved last September. So far I'm kinda discovering my surroundings, trying to find good paths that avoid me walking on paved roads, and ways to then link them back home as I like to start and end right here. Several general paths I take are around 12, 16 and 20 km, longest so far was 39km.
I really like walking solo and at the last place I lived there were just too many people all over the nature paths. In here, on the 39km trip I met - outside of the few villages I had to walk through - 1 walker, 1 cyclist, 3 on horseback. And that was on a perfect weather day and visiting several points of interest including a castle ruin.
As for the depressions or bad moods when walking, I get these before I start, and sometimes it takes a lot to actually set out, but just 15 minutes later I can't believe I even hesitated.
The light of morning is at 3:30am here now and that is when I start out just to avoid other people (and their unleashed dogs that I have had chase me) on trails I know well. Also I hate outdoor activity in heat. Cool of the dawn is ideal.

I feel you in the whole sometimes it is hard to get started, but once you get going, it is fine. I felt like ass this morning, but once I got on the trail, had the sudden urge to start jogging. I was suprised, but it went well and I am glad I did it. 39km is pretty impressive. Was that a day hike or an overnighter?
 
Was that a day hike or an overnighter?
One day, left around 11 and got back home sometime after 21.
There also was not much of climbing, and most of it was in the middle where I still had lot of strength left.
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Oh, I see, a GPS smartwatch! Looks good.
I was looking into less smart, more survivalist devices such as inReach. It does some basic navigation, tracks your position, sends a bunch of basic messages, has an SOS button and the battery is supposed to last for two weeks or so. I just don't understand why such devices cost a couple hundred bucks, lol. It would probably be a bit of an overkill for the type of trails I walk and the only reason I'm considering it is because I prefer to hike solo and at weird hours.
Yeah, I bought this because my Fitbit literally fell apart (RIP - decided never again with that), but I do like the feature where people can know where I am exactly when I want them to know or can give an exact last known location. I've gone my entire life without a tracker like this and have done a lot of hikes alone in the middle of nowhere, even in countries I didn't speak the language (Europa, but yeah). Still if the tech exists, it is better to have it because I roll the dice whenever I decide to do some of these things alone and at least my family should know where to recover the body if nothing else.

One day, left around 11 and got back home sometime after 21.
There also was not much of climbing, and most of it was in the middle where I still had lot of strength left.
Neat! Looks like it would have been pretty.
 
Did quite a bit of hiking when I was younger, before sportswatches and GPS smartphones. But, since then, city, so yeah...
I still try to walk as much as possible, using it as recovery training from running. Great stuff to keep for like 2 hours in your first HR zone, burn lots of fat, and train your body to use it more often. It just takes so much time, which can be used to run, so yeah...
 
I still try to walk as much as possible, using it as recovery training from running.
I used to hike with an enthusiastic runner for a bit and he did the opposite - go for a quick run after a hike to recover from walking that allegedly made his back hurt.
 
Cool thread.
I've got a multi-day trip to Yosemite planned in the coming months.
I'm wondering if anyone is familiar with the Cathedral Lake area of the park as I'll be camping there at the tail end of the trip
I'm was thinking Cathedral Peak but I'm worried I'll be spent by that part of the trip and it's a long way around from the camp to just the base of that trail by the looks of it.
 
I used to hike with an enthusiastic runner for a bit and he did the opposite - go for a quick run after a hike to recover from walking that allegedly made his back hurt.
That's odd. I had a runner tell me that exact thing the other day. She said hiking makes her legs and back hurt.
For me it's always my lungs that hurt before my muscles.
 
I used to hike with an enthusiastic runner for a bit and he did the opposite - go for a quick run after a hike to recover from walking that allegedly made his back hurt.
It's mechanically different. Walking and running utilize different muscles to different levels. It's probably weak glutes combined with heavy boots. The heavier your feet are, the bigger toll it takes on you lower back. If you're not used to it, it can be surprising how much heavy footwear bothers you.
 
it can be surprising how much heavy footwear bothers you
I'm slowly but surely replacing my regular heavy boots with barefoot hiking shoes. I am able to use them for about 80% of my hikes, including some less technical Alpine ones recently. They can be folded and if I really tried, they'd probably fit in my pocket. The sole is around half a centimeter thick. I still don't believe all of the barefoot propaganda and don't think they're a cure-all (they haven't cured my problems with feet so far) but I felt legitimately bad on the mornings I had to put my heavy boots on.
 
Been doing more walking this week and now I'm all hurty. Nothing as long as my longest walks, generally around 20 km. I pick some sight or place and go check it out. The sights themselves are mostly not very impressive (a big rock, an old oak, couple stones left from a castle destroyed 600 years ago) and there's not really anything inbetween but the goal is to walk and once you're on the way it feels good, so.

Also nice to find some spot to sit down and just stare at distance

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I'm late with all my comments but just discovered the thread.
I'm slowly but surely replacing my regular heavy boots with barefoot hiking shoes. I am able to use them for about 80% of my hikes, including some less technical Alpine ones recently. They can be folded and if I really tried, they'd probably fit in my pocket. The sole is around half a centimeter thick. I still don't believe all of the barefoot propaganda and don't think they're a cure-all (they haven't cured my problems with feet so far) but I felt legitimately bad on the mornings I had to put my heavy boots on.
Tell me more about these? Of course I could Google & probably will, but I'm interested in your experience, what you use them for - sounds like they are for more mountain hiking than ambling hiking? Cold weather or year-round?

Did quite a bit of hiking when I was younger, before sportswatches and GPS smartphones. But, since then, city, so yeah...
I still try to walk as much as possible, using it as recovery training from running. Great stuff to keep for like 2 hours in your first HR zone, burn lots of fat, and train your body to use it more often. It just takes so much time, which can be used to run, so yeah...
I envy runners. I suck at it, have always sucked at it, even when I used to run (jog) regularly, which was a very long time ago. Never could run far and never had that "sailing" experience that some people look like they do. And I fucked up a ligament in my ankle on a jog when I was 17 that to this day (a few decades later) is funky and loose and twingey; I brace it for walks and use shoes that are supposedly more stabilizing types. Might should see an ortho for inserts or something.

Has anyone hiked in the Hoh Forest in Washington? I am in starting stages of planning a few days hiking there and would love any experiences/thoughts. Probably not thru hiking, just day hikes. I'll figure out camping later.

Also on my list is on the next couple years is doing some section(s) of the Camino del Santiago. Probably a shorter trip, maybe 75-100 miles. Anyone walked it?
 
I've been out of shape, but thankfully I've done more walks outside this week given the weather has cooled down (and I have been going to the built-in gym at my condo).
 
Tell me more about these? Of course I could Google & probably will, but I'm interested in your experience, what you use them for - sounds like they are for more mountain hiking than ambling hiking? Cold weather or year-round?
Well, the idea is that people's feet function better with thinner soles and more room for toes, allowing them to use all the muscles properly and eventually achieve a healthier posture, reduce pain etc. Most of them are designed primarily for walking on easy, everyday surfaces and are not recommended for sports. But you can find barefoot running and hiking shoes too, as well as waterproof and winter ones.

I ended up wearing barefoot boots for hiking because of the comfort. Pretty much any other boots give me blisters or become terribly uncomfortable during long distance walking. And I honestly can't think of any disadvantages of having more room in the front of your footwear.
Now what I do have some questions about is the thinness of the sole. You can go from around 2mm up to like 2cm of thickness. The thinnest ones don't work for me at all, not even in the city. I think they may be a better choice for kids. But I can tell the impact is too much for me, as I'm not exactly a graceful walker.

The barefoot boots I currently love for hiking do have a bit more of a sole. They're also basically clown boots (wide in the toe section). I would post a photo, but they're from a very niche local brand and they probably sold only like twenty pairs of these, lol. They are still challenging for a very rocky terrain and I personally can't use them everywhere.
 
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