So like, I kind of agree with your basic premise but when it gets too generalized and societal is where you lose me. I value being attractive (for myself, I care a lot less about guys attractiveness than girls) and a forum that aims to help people be more attractive I can't have beef with really. It's all the redpill, incel stuff that goes along with it. I think you guys sometimes overestimate how "chads" get all the fun. I know some nerdy guys that get laid all the time or have a lot of girls interested in them, and Chads that just have one longtime gf. But I don't have a problem with the premise of improving your looks as long as people have a reasonable approach to it.