Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[The King-In-Chains]

It all boils down to peer pressure from someone who's within an position of authority and actually believed at least half of this stuff

I agree with a good portion of this statement.

I remember getting banned from my unis film club cause I said they were all just obnoxious hipster fags who sipped tea and that I will always know more than them cause I genuinely love the medium.

HA! not to PL but I had a similar experience. Came on arts scholarship and quickly transferred out after seeing how insufferable people were. I just wanted to make cool shit with a team, instead everyone thinks they're the next Kubrick or Warhol. I'm also far more successful in the arts than any of the hacks when I decide to peer into others windows on the web. Don't be insufferable in the arts.

Why is it always uni and anime faggotry? What makes these two the perfect troon disease? There are times like these which make me happy to be a third worlder, idk what it is about first world education which produces failed abortions like these. Also these are the fags who give anime a bad rap, pedoshit isn't cute and any man who is deep into the shoujo loli uwu pipeline must reconsider his life choices before cutting his dick off.

To be honest I think I've boiled it down, at least for the MTF crowd:

• Failed men/Failure to Launch, or lack of secured masculinity. This is a double edged sword when it comes to the masculinity portion, as the who PUA/RedPill/TopG crowd has poisoned the well for a solid positive view on the subject. Look at who their fathers were. They often fail at all activities given to them from their expectant father, which in turn creates a negative feedback loop. (Cue the MDE "DAD DAD DAD" clip) I'd stress that a decent amount of the problem is the father treating their son as a showpony rather than, you know, an actual human being. All of this gets in the head of the son, when in reality I'd argue the near-obsession over being the "MANG" is as bad as a thought trap as a race. It should be enough to just reaffirm your mind and spirit that you are who you are and there's no external factors needed to justify your behaviors or preferences.
• Being White, and away from the parental gaze - This is really just the same as the super successful valedictorian types you knew in school who burned out from drugs/alcohol/partying in the first couple of years as a result of their parents putting them in a pressure cooker environment, just reskinned. They look for meaning anywhere else that they can, which is often in tandem with cliques. Could be communism, transgenderism, extreme feminism, etc. At the end of it though, they realize even with finding a so called tribe that they're still viewed as unimportant, privileged, and worthless to the average commuter.
• Animu, and Peter Pan - Escapism in a media that's totally removed from reality, while idealizing the notion that "Hey, I'm not a failure, its just that society labelled me without second guessing...." I believe this is why they're so detached from considering the possibility that they look like prime sex-offender-in-the-making material. I'm armcharing here, but Asian media/society doesn't seem to have a problem with "abstraction" when it comes to interesting concepts for stories. Ranma 1/2, Futa, and other material thats just out there with the public doesn't mean that their society believe these concepts to be true, they're just vehicles for interesting stories and nothing more.

If they were raised by a single mother, it comes down to if the mum constantly talked shit about men.

As for Anime's reputation, HARD AGREE. I remember growing up if you admitted you liked anime you'd immediately be called a faggot and mocked, in a similar fashion to being into video games pre-CoD 4. Now I'm back to being in the closet about even enjoying anime.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

HA! not to PL but I had a similar experience. Came on arts scholarship and quickly transferred out after seeing how insufferable people were. I just wanted to make cool shit with a team, instead everyone thinks they're the next Kubrick or Warhol. I'm also far more successful in the arts than any of the hacks when I decide to peer into others windows on the web. Don't be insufferable in the arts.

Computer science and electronics engineering major, not arts. I just happen to like media shit and those fags cannot comprehend a contrasting opinion. "Oh a theatre is the only good viewing experience" no it's not, "oh exploitation movies aren't real movies" yet they had better nigger and whamen characters than most of you can come up with, "oh piracy is bad, we must support the industry" fuck you I can do what I want and I get more variety, so on and so forth. I'll admit that I had my fair share of stupid takes at the time but I wouldn't be so offended by what nother person said.

As for Anime's reputation, HARD AGREE. I remember growing up if you admitted you liked anime you'd immediately be called a faggot and mocked, in a similar fashion to being into video games pre-CoD 4. Now I'm back to being in the closet about even enjoying anime.

Yeah can't watch Black Lagoon anymore cause these fucks have tainted the medium so much along with the other demographics.

Tbh I just see a lot of the troon epidemic as rampant hedonism by a bunch of worthless fucks who hate their parents, hate life, cannot create something valuable, cannot find meaning in their own lives and want their ass pounded so hard they get anal fissures cause most mtfs become bottoms, one of the side effects of estrogen shifts the erogenous zones to the butt and the rest of the body but they'll attribute becoming a bottom to trauma from being "closeted" or discrimination or whatever the fuck.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

cannot find meaning in their own lives

This is one of the main reasons, I think. An unoccupied human mind is a dangerous thing, navel gazing and overanalysing fucks humans up. So many of these people come from comfortable backgrounds and don't have to struggle or work hard, and they were never encouraged to find something they are passionate about either. So they sit and consoom anime and overthink and feel empty. If you have real life goals that give your life meaning you're less likely to troon, no matter how weird or modest the goals are. Cooming and being the little girl are not goals in this hypothesis.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

This is one of the main reasons, I think. An unoccupied human mind is a dangerous thing, navel gazing and overanalysing fucks humans up. So many of these people come from comfortable backgrounds and don't have to struggle or work hard, and they were never encouraged to find something they are passionate about either. So they sit and consoom anime and overthink and feel empty. If you have real life goals that give your life meaning you're less likely to troon, no matter how weird or modest the goals are. Cooming and being the little girl are not goals in this hypothesis.

They substitute that with ass fuckings and sex fantasies or at least use those to distract themselves from nihilism.

 

[Wallace]

This is one of the main reasons, I think. An unoccupied human mind is a dangerous thing, navel gazing and overanalysing fucks humans up. So many of these people come from comfortable backgrounds and don't have to struggle or work hard, and they were never encouraged to find something they are passionate about either. So they sit and consoom anime and overthink and feel empty. If you have real life goals that give your life meaning you're less likely to troon, no matter how weird or modest the goals are. Cooming and being the little girl are not goals in this hypothesis.

People who have nothing going for them in their lives are excellent prey for cult recruitment.

 

[Manwithamask2]

I have lost my cousin to the trans. He was effeminate, (yes men can be that way without being gay) sensitive, and the most imaginitave intelligent person that i knew. We had our custom DnD campains and they were one of the best memories of my childhood. He is older than me he married a good woman they had tough times postpartum depression and all that, but they survived. Well a few years later he says that he is a she . A father of two decides to troon out. Changes his name and all that. I cannot say what i think to my family because they are very liberal let live type of people.

 

[quackrock]

At least 6 nerdy guys have now trooned out from my old college circle. This is getting ridiculous. They all look like men in bad wigs and cheap clothes. Autism absolutely a factor with some. Others I think are just failed males who may or may not have a porn addiction. "Social contagion isn't real," my ass.

I've more or less silently cut ties with this friend group by now. Everyone else (publicly at least) approves of the troonism. I can't and won't have these people in contact with me or my family, not in a "trans refuge" state where the laws make that dangerous.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

At least 6 nerdy guys have now trooned out from my old college circle. This is getting ridiculous. They all look like men in bad wigs and cheap clothes. Autism absolutely a factor with some. Others I think are just failed males who may or may not have a porn addiction. "Social contagion isn't real," my ass.

I've more or less silently cut ties with this friend group by now. Everyone else (publicly at least) approves of the troonism. I can't and won't have these people in contact with me or my family, not in a "trans refuge" state where the laws make that dangerous.

I assume porn addiction until proven otherwise with the low effort male troons and a sizeable subset of the female trenders as well. Different porn, similar results- and contributes to the rise in heterosexual couples jointly trooning out, no doubt. Seen altogether too many of those pairs in the wild lately- a girl in some variety of grimy fetish garb with a buzzcut and a guy wearing a spinny skirt and a feminine character tee (think Sailor Moon). The smell is unbearable even from some distance.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I don't quite understand how porn addiction would even lead to cutting your frank and beans off. I'm not saying there isn't a pattern, but I can't follow the thought process. A horny man who watches a lot of porn should want to HAVE a big tiddy anime GF, not BE a big tiddy anime GF.

I, uh... assume...

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I don't quite understand how porn addiction would even lead to cutting your frank and beans off. I'm not saying there isn't a pattern, but I can't follow the thought process. A horny man who watches a lot of porn should want to HAVE a big tiddy anime GF, not BE a big tiddy anime GF.

I, uh... assume...

Anglosaxon genes react differently to certain stimuli like porn and anime. Exposing the anglo to these things is like feeding a Gremlin after midnight specially if they have CS degrees

 

[Aaron Costello]

I have no idea where else to post this, this isn't someone I personally know, but I enjoy watching a dumb little let's play channel called Keep et Classy. Which is actually a series that was an off shoot from another LP called "Let's Drown Out" created by the same man who created Zero Punctuation. It's just two dudes named Gabe and Aaron who play any game from children's Pingu games to Euro Truck Simulator and have casual banter between dudes.

Lately I haven't paid the most attention to it and decided to check in and I found in the video thumbnail that Aaron was missing and in his place was a woman. "Oh Gabe replaced Aaron with his new girlfriend. A bit of a shame he got rid of Aaron, but let's see where this goes", I thought to myself. Until I heard the audio and came to the realization what had actually happened.

I know how everyone says they know how it feels to be a fan of a band or content creators who later have a member that goes the way of the troon, but man. That's a lie, you really never see it coming out of left field. I think this is my first moment that genuinely caught me off guard.

i'm in their discord and i've been a fan of them since day one, and I don't know, but him trooning out doesnt seem genuine, and seems a little off. idk just seems like a way to get attention or something, or the man is having a hell of a mental breakdown. Also he has a NSFW twitter, where he publicly posts his disgusting nudes, also he has an only fans, so i'm willing to be part of him trooning out has to bet a weird fetish thing.

btw Have you seen their latest videos? A lot of them are 3 hours long, Aaron doesn't cut out dead air, and Aaron wonders why he doesnt get views. Aaron started out by putting on the fakest female voice ever, and now he does a really, really bad american accent. It's so jarring lol.

 

[Procrastinhater]

At least 6 nerdy guys have now trooned out from my old college circle. This is getting ridiculous. They all look like men in bad wigs and cheap clothes. Autism absolutely a factor with some. Others I think are just failed males who may or may not have a porn addiction. "Social contagion isn't real," my ass.

I've more or less silently cut ties with this friend group by now. Everyone else (publicly at least) approves of the troonism. I can't and won't have these people in contact with me or my family, not in a "trans refuge" state where the laws make that dangerous.

You can't help them. These are people that have chosen to put their vile fetish above everything else, its best to cut tie, and that goes double for any parents.
You cannot risk these creatures coming into contact with your kids, part of this social contagion, amd probably rhe most disgusting part, is that troons seem to have this compulsion to spread it, particularly to kids, and with the fucked state of society these days, if one of these fucks decides to target your child, they will have the full backup and assistance of the State in doing so.
Sane human beings with any morality at all need to treat these freaks like the modern day lepers they are.
Troons are worse than lepers in a lot of ways, leprosy is a sickness no one asked for and the majority of lepers never received in their decay and tried to infect others, plus leprosy is a lot harder to transmit than this vile mind virus.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I don't quite understand how porn addiction would even lead to cutting your frank and beans off. I'm not saying there isn't a pattern, but I can't follow the thought process. A horny man who watches a lot of porn should want to HAVE a big tiddy anime GF, not BE a big tiddy anime GF.

I, uh... assume...

[THING] addicts are not like normal users of [THING]. The average alcohol enjoyer may like microbrews or cocktails, a nice red wine with dinner or a little dessert port. The average alcohol enjoyer does not look at a bottle of mouthwash and think "that'll do" if he runs out of beer. You can see how this principle applies to coomers versus the casual enjoyer of naked lady pics.

No one starts out expecting to be the hobo drinking Mad Dog out of a paper bag or the guy who has consumed so much sissy porn he thinks cutting his dick off will somehow provide the ultimate coom, but some people end up there.

 

[Yamamura]

btw Have you seen their latest videos? A lot of them are 3 hours long, Aaron doesn't cut out dead air, and Aaron wonders why he doesnt get views. Aaron started out by putting on the fakest female voice ever, and now he does a really, really bad american accent. It's so jarring lol.

Yeah, I watched a couple of them. When people say something trooning out is like having them replaced with a weird body double they're underselling it. It is exactly like Aaron's been killed and taken over by a creepy falsetto skinwalker. Honestly it's all just kinda depressing watching this happen.

I don't know, but him trooning out doesnt seem genuine, and seems a little off. idk just seems like a way to get attention or something, or the man is having a hell of a mental breakdown.

I agree, of all the times I watched Aaron he seemed like a pretty normal dude. But then again for some reason the most average dudes have a tendency to do that now a days. What's really disturbing is Aaron's "girlfriend", who is just a fat dude who makes porn with him. Plus watching Aaron publicly beg for money on Twitter.

All this just makes me wonder what Gabe thinks about all this inside. He can't publicly speak out about it lest he be labeled a transphobe and the series goes down. But he can't have the same chemistry with the elephant in the room anymore, since he probably has to walk on egg shells now.

 

[Slobs]

Why is it always uni and anime faggotry? What makes these two the perfect troon disease? There are times like these which make me happy to be a third worlder, idk what it is about first world education which produces failed abortions like these. Also these are the fags who give anime a bad rap, pedoshit isn't cute and any man who is deep into the shoujo loli uwu pipeline must reconsider his life choices before cutting his dick off.

Where there's prey, there's predators.
I was about to write up some big ass wall of text but it really is that simple. It's not that hard to infiltrate these groups, or to get into the heads of the people that run them. A community of social retards, dumb teens, and vulnerable losers isn't going to put up a good fight against social contagion. At best you'll get a handful of spergs that make arguments so bad they're practically in your favour, who will then be quickly swept up by overzealous power-tripping mods or self-excise on their own; not at all difficult to deal with or the scary gatekeepers they're made out to be. It's far too easy and enticing for troons to swallow these communities whole, often even without a concerted effort due to the overlap with other polluted communities.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

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Where there's prey, there's predators.
I was about to write up some big ass wall of text but it really is that simple. It's not that hard to infiltrate these groups, or to get into the heads of the people that run them. A community of social retards, dumb teens, and vulnerable losers isn't going to put up a good fight against social contagion. At best you'll get a handful of spergs that make arguments so bad they're practically in your favour, who will then be quickly swept up by overzealous power-tripping mods or self-excise on their own; not at all difficult to deal with or the scary gatekeepers they're made out to be. It's far too easy and enticing for troons to swallow these communities whole, often even without a concerted effort due to the overlap with other polluted communities.

I would say it's a bit more nuanced that just pedo shit, especially in the uni example. Universities indoctrinate cause of ideology, not for predation, there's a lot of history behind the Soviet active measures program and the like but the basic idea is universities are ideological cloning centers, they just produce post-Soviet Marxist sleeper agents. That said I don't understand how western universities are just so spineless and immoral to even let this happen with no self awareness, that's all. When it comes to anime, well it's just the mentally ill enabling, fetishizing and promoting their mental illness.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I would say it's a bit more nuanced that just pedo shit, especially in the uni example. Universities indoctrinate cause of ideology, not for predation, there's a lot of history behind the Soviet active measures program and the like but the basic idea is universities are ideological cloning centers, they just produce post-Soviet Marxist sleeper agents. That said I don't understand how western universities are just so spineless and immoral to even let this happen with no self awareness, that's all. When it comes to anime, well it's just the mentally ill enabling, fetishizing and promoting their mental illness.

To think theres no self awareness is to underestimate them.
Yuri Bezmenov wasn't lying when he warned about what was happening decades ago, this is deliberate and the end result of a long running infiltration of academia, which was their way into all the other systems they have co opted, media, the judiciary, etc, all aided by greedy short sighted interests thats only priority is short term profit.
Yeah tinfoil hat stuff, I know, but look at the course of particularly the Wests social decline into immoral decadence and depravity and tell me he wasn't right.

 

[Your Local Paleofag]

The second guy was also an artist friend and I was closer to him, saw the whole transformation, he was always very awkward around women. He was sadly groomed and raped by a mentally ill woman when he was a minor so it probably had a play on that. However he never got proper therapy for it, I was the first person he told his trauma to without lying (he told his parents when they found out woman clothing in his room, but never said the age of his abuser or that it was rape). He only was able to talk to me because I was more masculine than most girls he knew, but he was never able to talk to women successfully when he started going to uni. He started saying he wished he was a woman for sexual reasons, he said also being a woman would make life be on easy mode. After graduating, he tried finding someone on dating apps but was always unsuccessful cuz he always saw too many red flags on every girl he dated. During lockdown, he started crossdressing, at first just small things like women pyjamas or shirts, but it escalated into needing more. He started getting cheap clothes on Etsy, started going in public getting excited whenever others thought he was a woman, taking advantage of the mask to hide his very obvious jawline. Crossdressing became a daily thing to him, his family invited him to NYC one time and all he did was buy women clothes in secret. His fashion sense was and is fucking awful, I told him one time to try maybe buying male clothes for once cuz his recent purchases have been not great, he got so mad at me. In the end we grew more and more distant but I always noticed how he changed his pronouns, from he/him to he/they to they/them until ultimately she/her. He announced he was trooning out, but something seemed fishy, so I found his Reddit account that he never shared with me or our group of friends. He was getting hormones through crypto as well as DIY hormones, and he insisted he knew what he was doing. He also was posting pics of him crossdressing for horny redditors on r/196 to say how much he passes (he was hiding his chin in most pics with his phone lol!) and how hot he is. I know he never got diagnosed with dysphoria because HRT is legal in his country iirc (TERF island tho), he never went to a therapist. He also mentioned how going on estrogen has made him less horny, he said he used to think about sex everyday, jerking off also at least once per day, and is worried this killed his sex drive so he's gonna force himself to get turned on because without horny he's bored. I still feel sorry to what happened to him as a kid, but I'm so glad I got distant to him, finding his Reddit has creeped me out and it shows the obvious AGP behaviour.

Self replying to this story cuz I finally saw how delusional this troon friend got, all the shit in r/196 has absolutely brainwashed him, he had to spit a bunch of garbage because that subreddit is closed right now.
He said anyone should be able to take HRT for any reason and that you don't need to be dysphoric, that doctors don't have to prescribe it. He doesn't care what anyone does with their body, be it heroine or HRT (that was probably the most selfish thing I've heard him say), that people should do whatever they want without doctor supervision. He bought the HRT from some shady site that only allows crypto, but he swears it's pure and that the scare of DIY HRT is just nonsensical. He then says estrogen can't harm you and that everything is reversible, that he doesn't want to use the legal way because they're more expensive, they take longer to give you the troon pills and he'll just get fucked by the system. He then admits what I knew, he never got diagnosed with dysphoria, that looking masculine made him miserable but looking feminine has made him feel not ugly anymore (I'm sure this feeling is not related at all to Redditors flirting with him whenever he posts an ugly selfie crossdressing in r/196, him also telling other trannies to give him "girlcum" and being told sure cuz he's just oh so pretty). He says he feels validated being called a girl, that he knows for sure he's a tranny with actual dyshoria and that a diagnosis will just delay what he's so sure about. He brushed over my concerns about saying how estrogen in males can make the blood pressure higher which worst case scenario is a stroke, with just saying all vaccines do that. This ends with him saying how the benefits mentally are much better for him, how the physical ones are so great cuz he grows boobs and feels pretty. He then says he'll get the dysphoria diagnosis only to get the penis chop surgery, he doesn't want it yet cuz he's not dysphoric over his genitals (he's not dysphoric over his voice either, so far his transition has only been getting excited over boobs and people calling him a pretty girl, hmm kinda suspicious).
I hate this shit, he's absolutely delusional, no risks from troonshine? Taking troonshine without medical supervision? He's so far gone, he's such an obvious autogynephilic cuz of how he was before taking the pills. And I never saw the red flags back then, I should've known with how he view women, in such a masculine way, saying women have it on easy mode but then getting attached to any pretty girl he sees and wanting to fuck them, as well as only drawing whenever he was horny because he only wanted to draw girls in suggestive or sexual scenarios, and even drawing girls he saw irl, and even drew himself as a girl one time because he was horny at the idea of becoming one. At the same time, it bums me out, his older self had potential to change and become a respectable man, had he sorted out his trauma in a healthy manner. It's like seeing a friend you've known for a while inject himself with heroin, most of the time it's his own fault to get attached to the drug but you still want him to stop, only for him to get mad and to tell you to mind your own business. Sadly I can only say "hope you don't regret this", but I know deep down he will, there's something so fucked in seeing just an awkward guy who has a hard time socialising become an absolute delusional self medicated fetishist little by little. My friend is fucking dead, only a tranny remains.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

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Where there's prey, there's predators.
I was about to write up some big ass wall of text but it really is that simple. It's not that hard to infiltrate these groups, or to get into the heads of the people that run them. A community of social retards, dumb teens, and vulnerable losers isn't going to put up a good fight against social contagion. At best you'll get a handful of spergs that make arguments so bad they're practically in your favour, who will then be quickly swept up by overzealous power-tripping mods or self-excise on their own; not at all difficult to deal with or the scary gatekeepers they're made out to be. It's far too easy and enticing for troons to swallow these communities whole, often even without a concerted effort due to the overlap with other polluted communities.

Don't forget the geek social fallacies as well. Anywhere that has that general ethos will become infested by and then controlled by troons.

 

[Memento Malum]

Lost contact with a fair few of my college friends because I avoid people and social occasions like the plague. Suddenly noticed a username I recognized from college in a random friendgroup gaming discord, and did some quick checking. Sure enough, a nerdy straight laced guy I knew in college is now a furry enby pansexual.

He's an engineer at a prominent vehicle firm you would recognize, so I solved at least one of the mysteriously wealthy furry enigmas.

Not even red state stem colleges are safe. If you go to university and don't have a solid grasp on reality, you  will end up on one variety of crazy train.