Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Ed Special]

Aren't there studies that show that antipsychotics have been successfully used to at least suppress gender dysphoria? Pimozide in particular?

That's how it used to be treated from the 70s up until some time around 2010, at which point it was deemed by the insane activists to be a hate crime and basically genocide.

 

[Écho Öwl]

That's how it used to be treated from the 70s up until some time around 2010, at which point it was deemed by the insane activists to be a hate crime and basically genocide.

How many treatment plans have been relegated to the “circular file?”

Under the current climate, not a valid research topic. In Canada could land you in jail…

 

[Lovely Kin]

That's how it used to be treated from the 70s up until some time around 2010, at which point it was deemed by the insane activists to be a hate crime and basically genocide.

Anything is a genocide to them. I'm more surprised the suicide rates aren't at eighty percent if they think everything is murdering troons.

 

[Ed Special]

I'm more surprised the suicide rates aren't at eighty percent if they think everything is murdering troons.

That's the neat part - they don't actually believe that they're being Six Millioned. They're just abusing the emotional language the Kikes invented for their own benefit, because it makes normie baizuo think of the six million who definitely got Shoah'd, and that visceral emotional response instantly shuts down the NPC's ability to think.

 

[Mister Eveready]

Aren't there studies that show that antipsychotics have been successfully used to at least suppress gender dysphoria? Pimozide in particular?

I believe this came from a single study conducted in the late 90s. The mainline treatment for gender dysphoria back in the olden days was talk therapy.

 

[Mister Eveready]

That's the neat part - they don't actually believe that they're being Six Millioned. They're just abusing the emotional language the Kikes invented for their own benefit, because it makes normie baizuo think of the six million who definitely got Shoah'd, and that visceral emotional response instantly shuts down the NPC's ability to think.

Oh, they (or at least the terminally online ones) definitely believe they’re being genocided. I’ve seen trans-identified kids on Reddit talking about how they don’t want to die.

 

[KaiserFranz]

I've been peaked on the theoretical side of things for a while, but few months ago I personally met one and it's making me sad.

18y old FTM for 3 years. Ran away from home because of shit mom, sexually assaulted by boyfriends, depressed and addicted to weed. Not on hormones, doesn't want bottom growth. Sometimes wants to stop being trans but feels dysphoric when not presenting male. Kinda manages the emo fuckboy look but clockable due to height. I don't think she's terminally online or ideological, got a pretty chuddy side actually. Lives with a female roommate who's her only real friend, no idea about school environment or internet communities. Probably not the most reliable narrator but I only got slight BPD tendencies so I believe in her having a shit life.

I feel the need to help somehow but not sure what to do. Lost the opportunity for natural irl contact so now we're just sharing memes, also I'm older so it'd be fucking weird to invite her to do something. I think just going outside as a girl with someone supportive would help her a ton, but I don't think she's got the opportunity. I feel like my only in is trying to smoke weed with her.

It might be a case where it sorts itself out, but I fear that she could really fuck up her life once she loses the structure of schooling and stops receiving alimony.

 

[Ruined by the Rain]

I stumbled onto my old friend's social media by accident today and her account has been entirely colonized by transgender shit. About every 5 post there's one tranny post.

She posted about how inhuman it is that right wingers laugh at a 17yo tranny's suicide. I mean I was also laughing at that tranny's death just yesterday.

I missed her. It really felt like the person I knew was dead since she gotten into tranny ideology. There's nothing but the pooner left now. Iirc she's pre T but I don't think she'll ever recover

also I'm older so it'd be fucking weird to invite her to do something. I think just going outside as a girl

Just invite her out. If you're not trying to fuck it won't be weird

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Ran away from home because of shit mom

Or: ran away from home because mom said no to the bad choices she kept making.

sexually assaulted by boyfriends

Or: made bad choices about sexual partners/activities and needs a narrative for it where she is blameless.

Insert image of Hugh Laurie saying "BPDs Lie."

 

[Paper Machete]

I've been peaked on the theoretical side of things for a while, but few months ago I personally met one and it's making me sad.

18y old FTM for 3 years. Ran away from home because of shit mom, sexually assaulted by boyfriends, depressed and addicted to weed. Not on hormones, doesn't want bottom growth. Sometimes wants to stop being trans but feels dysphoric when not presenting male. Kinda manages the emo fuckboy look but clockable due to height. I don't think she's terminally online or ideological, got a pretty chuddy side actually. Lives with a female roommate who's her only real friend, no idea about school environment or internet communities. Probably not the most reliable narrator but I only got slight BPD tendencies so I believe in her having a shit life.

I feel the need to help somehow but not sure what to do. Lost the opportunity for natural irl contact so now we're just sharing memes, also I'm older so it'd be fucking weird to invite her to do something. I think just going outside as a girl with someone supportive would help her a ton, but I don't think she's got the opportunity. I feel like my only in is trying to smoke weed with her.

It might be a case where it sorts itself out, but I fear that she could really fuck up her life once she loses the structure of schooling and stops receiving alimony.

I'm not saying it's entirely untrue that this girl has had terrible past experiences. And I'm not saying it's wrong to feel sympathy for her plight. But you need to keep distance, emotional and otherwise. Getting tangled up unnecessarily with people like that always ends badly. Question why you know so much about this person's backstory despite only knowing her for three months and not having in person contact? Why is she so willing to let you know about all of these very vulnerable details?

If someone is young and roughing it on their own the best thing anyone can do for them is to help ensure they have a job and stable housing. If you can't do that or they refuse to keep their act together to keep decent jobs and such then there's nothing you realistically can do. You will just get pulled into the "feel sorry for and enable" me circus. Ultimately, it's a sort of vanity in itself to think you can do much for this near stranger to turn their life around. A good gauge is whether they will try to get help personally from you but balk at doing so from charitable and government programs to help those in rough spots. For example, if they need help getting food and you direct them to a local food bank but they get angry at the suggestion.

I know people very close to me that have had a shit time of things but at the end of the day the God's honest truth is that regardless of whatever life circumstances you have if you're not willing to do well for yourself than nothing anyone does for you will ultimately matter. Most people that get into rough spots or move beyond their past don't malinger so if someone is a long history of issues and keeps getting into more it's not a sign of someone in desperate need of help but rather someone you desperately need to stay away from.

Also, yes, as stated a lot of people with that type of personality or mental problems will distort, lie by omission, or tack on more sordid details to legitimate traumas to garner as much sympathy and "help" as they can. Your overextension of sympathy and "help" is less like soothing and more like feeding coal into a stove for these types of people. Because of my own experiences with family members who are like this I can see it from a mile away.

Sorry for the long screed. But so many people fall for the wounded bird bit and refuse to see the light despite obviously being in the orbit of an emotional vampire and narcissistic abuser themselves. The behavior of trannies themselves (and no shocker the girl in question is one) documented so heavily in this forum are all perfect examples of this.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I'm not saying it's entirely untrue that this girl has had terrible past experiences. And I'm not saying it's wrong to feel sympathy for her plight. But you need to keep distance, emotional and otherwise. Getting tangled up unnecessarily with people like that always ends badly. Question why you know so much about this person's backstory despite only knowing her for three months and not having in person contact? Why is she so willing to let you know about all of these very vulnerable details?

Meanwhile guys will lose both parents in a car crash and be like "It is what it is haha".

A lot of terminally online teenagers would into their young adult years keep trying to play therapist for strangers. They helped a single mother with a breakup in WoW at age 16 so now they think they're god's gift to earth, and continue to basically sidetrack their own lives to 'fix' someone else's. Then 8 years down the line they realize they haven't been able to help because the person identifies with their misery and see no need to improve. "Something bad happened to me so now I will make it my personality to spite them while I abuse substances". Yea, truly someone worth saving.

Also, yes, as stated a lot of people with that type of personality or mental problems will distort, lie by omission, or tack on more sordid details to legitimate traumas to garner as much sympathy and "help" as they can. Your overextension of sympathy and "help" is less like soothing and more like feeding coal into a stove for these types of people. Because of my own experiences with family members who are like this I can see it from a mile away.

Especially funny when you meet a troon in a really good place, cause they'll have free board to whatever they want to pursue in life, yet try to wring their own arm into inaction because "uhh daddy is a bitch!". Every single person I've met who said trooning out helped them, not one of them actually excelled in other aspects of life. "I pump dick more often now so I faze through the day on a coom-high". Great, what about work? Hobbies? oh, you jerk off? Uhhh cool.

If these alphabet nutjobs actually supported one another instead of hoping for each other's downfall so they'd be better off themselves, they'd dominate the world. Push each other into mindsets to achieve success rather than buying a $5 etsy choker and break it on cam.

 

[KaiserFranz]

Sorry for the long screed. But so many people fall for the wounded bird bit and refuse to see the light despite obviously being in the orbit of an emotional vampire and narcissistic abuser themselves. The behavior of trannies themselves (and no shocker the girl in question is one) documented so heavily in this forum are all perfect examples of this.

Sure a lot of what she said was biased, especially when it comes to other's perception of her. But it's not like she was seeking reassurance, she vented about stuff I found silly and was indifferent with info that actually got me emotionally invested. So that's on me.

It's also not a one-sided. I get insight into the youth and the shit part of the city that I wouldn't otherwise get. And honestly the conversation is fun, very different dynamic from other people I know. So there's some self interest as well, not just playing savior. The least I can do is try to be a good influence.

Or: made bad choices about sexual partners/activities and needs a narrative for it where she is blameless.

One of the situations she described was quite bad. I got sympathy for that, even if she added extra incidents that weren't too serious to make a victim narrative.

 

[Second Alter Ego]

A close friend of mine since 2nd or 3rd grade trooned out. I only found out from stalking the facebook of another friend I'd lost contact with. She lopped her tits off, named herself after a NGE character, and has since dedicated her entire life and resume to fujoshi/shotacon. It's sad because she had 2 moms so never stood a chance. In middle school she was absolutely obsessed with letting everyone in school know she was "pansexual" and in highschool she would draw nothing but loli and shota (and plaster it online of course). Now she's "a super gay man" drawing nothing but penises and cub porn and apparently went to art school at some point (her entire portfolio and career at that school is nothing but shota). What a fucking mess. What a fucking waste. What a fucking disgusting twisted mockery of the kind and funny friend I had. I guess she's a straight pedophile and her day job is flicking her bean to her revolting scribbles of child abuse.

Edit: I just looked her up again and she's now added horrifying sexual "art" of human infants to her resume. My fucking eyes. My fucking soul

 

[Ed Special]

A close friend of mine since 2nd or 3rd grade trooned out. I only found out from stalking the facebook of another friend I'd lost contact with. She lopped her tits off, named herself after a NGE character, and has since dedicated her entire life and resume to fujoshi/shotacon. It's sad because she had 2 moms so never stood a chance. In middle school she was absolutely obsessed with letting everyone in school know she was "pansexual" and in highschool she would draw nothing but loli and shota (and plaster it online of course). Now she's "a super gay man" drawing nothing but penises and cub porn and apparently went to art school at some point (her entire portfolio and career at that school is nothing but shota). What a fucking mess. What a fucking waste. What a fucking disgusting twisted mockery of the kind and funny friend I had. I guess she's a straight pedophile and her day job is flicking her bean to her revolting scribbles of child abuse.

Edit: I just looked her up again and she's now added horrifying sexual "art" of human infants to her resume. My fucking eyes. My fucking soul

She'll drop that "I'm a man" shit damn quick when she inevitably gets her ass dragged into a Federal court for the actual child porn she definitely possesses - both to get a lighter sentence and to avoid being sent to a men's prison where she'd be raped by men's dicks.

 

[Second Alter Ego]

when she inevitably gets her ass dragged into a Federal court for the actual child porn she definitely possesses

God I fucking hope this happens. She's steeply fallen into the category of the sort of monster that plans to hurt a child if the opportunity ever presented itself. I fucking hope she ends up in prison before that happens. God forbid she ever gets pregnant.
I feel so fucking sad having lost someone in this horrific manner. It's like she got bit by a zombie right in front of me and I've watched her irreversibly turn. She wasn't like this when we were kids. I wonder if she could have turned out differently if the circumstances of her life were not what they were.

 

[Koby_Fish]

I have just been informed that a person I've met like twice (but I know their mom) has trooned out. When I met them the first time (their late teens), I wasn't sure whether they were male or female, but then when i found out for sure, I was sure that they were either going to come out as gay or troon out. Very feminine voice, LONG ponytail, earrings, light makeup, but dressed in male clothing (and I swear to GOD they have a fucking eating disorder, like a lot of troons, the anorexic side of things by the looks of it). Apparently they went full troon for graduation, dress and everything. IDK about "gender affirming care" but they're definitely "old enough" for it now. They don't live with their mom so I'm betting his other parents (extremely narcissistic dad and stepmom) are influential in this regard. The dad is a teacher in Leafland in a VERY NDP area, so make of that what you will.

I'm just surprised the mom didn't see this shit coming. Literally anyone with eyes and ears would at least guess a coming out as gay was in the cards.

 

[GoldenSnake]

i’ve been doing okay recently but then my brother dropped a huge thing on me. we were chatting because i’m planning a trip home soon and he says he wants to get the rotpocket surgery. i was horrified. he hasn’t gotten any surgery before, this is the only one he seems to want which is so weird. i guess it’s part of the agp or something. this was really upsetting and i made an excuse to hang up pretty soon after. my only hope is that the surgeon he wants to go to would be out of pocket and very expensive. i’m hoping there is no public option for this but i’ve been anxious about even looking into it.

he doesn’t pay rent but he’s also terrible with saving money so i figure there’s a fairly low chance at him actually being able to pay for any major surgery, and he already has loans he’s paying back so taking out more loans would be stupid but not impossible. i don’t think any of his friends have enough money to loan him any.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Aren't there studies that show that antipsychotics have been successfully used to at least suppress gender dysphoria? Pimozide in particular?

No, there was only one case of that, and that person was literally a beyond the rainbow schizophrenic.

Also people have tried doing that to homosexuals in the past, up to and including full lobotomies.

 

[vomitusdeux]

he hasn’t gotten any surgery before

This is going to come off as sarcasm, it's not. I'm 100% serious right now. but he should honestly get a tooth pulled and you tell him that what he wants to do to himself is 100x more invasive and he loses his dick. You know how the hole in your mouth seals up over time? Your surgery wound is no different and that's why you have to dilate that thing for the rest of your limited days. It gives you a physical example to work with instead of his imagination of "surgeries aren't that bad" or "lol it's a poop wound bro"

 

[duckling]

Faggy little friend who trooned out and got the chop late last year recently admitted he is having urinary incontinence.