Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[bluegenius8585]

I've come to the conclusion that gender itself isn't real. I think it's just something trans people tell themselves exists so there's atleast one part of them that is authentically and naturally the same as the sex they want to be.

That whole view from some troons is an oxymoron

 

[chickenbutt]

I'm currently watching an old friend of mine troon out her teenage daughter and it's driving me insane. My friends has always been a bit of a liberal munchie type so I'm not exactly blown away by this development, but it's impossible to know what to do or say. At first the kid was a lesbian, then asexual (to the point of wearing an "asexual pride" bowtie to family events, which was just... cringe beyond belief), then nonbinary with they/them pronouns, now it's to the point of talking about getting her a double mastectomy as soon as she turns 18 and he/him pronouns. I feel like I'm watching Abigail Shrier's book on ROGD play out in real time. It doesn't help that my friend, as mentioned, is a bit of a hysterical munchie/"muh chronic pain" type, and I feel like she's transferred a lot of her own insane anxiety issues on to her daughter.

My friend knows my position on trannies so she's aware I'm not exactly going to be supportive in this, but since we live so far away it can kind of just loiter about like the giant crossdressing elephant in the room as long as we stick to talking about the weather and crafting. It just makes me so sad because I know she wouldn't listen even if I tried to explain my position and she's going to be wracked with guilt in 15 years' time when the kid's burned her entire life to the ground with her blessing and can't go back. I'm just hoping against all hope that the kid thinks better of the tit chop between now and turning 18. I don't know if I'm going to be able to hold on to any semblance of this friendship without exploding.

 

[Vingle]

I'm currently watching an old friend of mine troon out her teenage daughter

Will notifying CPS even work in this case?

 

[chickenbutt]

Will notifying CPS even work in this case?

Where she lives is farcically troon-friendly, so I'm afraid that's a definite no.

 

[bluegenius8585]

Will notifying CPS even work in this case?

No since the other troons will fund a hate campaign against the complainant

 

[Gingervitis]

A friend of mine from high school got the tit chop.

It started with her dating a woman. This confused me, since in high school she was asexual. Mind, I was much more tolerant of tumblr shit back then, being a tumblr user myself, so I brushed it off.

Then she became nonbinary. I noticed at this point, she became a lot more touchy. For example, when we played Everyone is John (rules here), I made this character.

She ended up getting absurdly upset about the whole thing, and I ended up apologizing. She also mentioned during D&D night that she went out of her way to mention that she went out of her way to not make traditionally female characters.

Afterwards, she started came out as ftm and started calling herself “Gunnar”. She just got the tit chop last week. Somehow, I feel like I could’ve stopped it if I had just talked to her instead of just yessing her like a toad and convincing myself its a fad that would die off once she found a guy in college.

 

[Ronnie McNutt]

Some friend of mine was a chill dude, when he began using Twitter i noticed that he was starting to dulge into the culture of Twitter. That's where he began developing mental retardation, he suddenly was using specific pronouns and is deciding what the fuck his "gender" is. He doesn't even talk to me anymore, he just spends his time on Twitter scrooling for hours.
What I've learnt is that twitter is a dangerous indoctrination factory that should be avoided or atleast control your use of it if you decide to browse the unflushed shitting street.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Somehow, I feel like I could’ve stopped it if I had just talked to her instead of just yessing her like a toad and convincing myself its a fad that would die off once she found a guy in college.

Perhaps it could have helped, but it likely would have prevented nothing. She is here own person with her own choices, and there's other factors powering them you might not have been able to dissuade her from. The more touchy she got, the more cultish she likely became, and when they start yelling "You're transphobic!" even with rational and caring talk, all hope is lost.

It is hard not to let "what ifs" weigh on you though, I feel you. At least the next person you encounter who might go down a similar path you now have a warning for.

He doesn't even talk to me anymore, he just spends his time on Twitter scrooling for hours.

I was going to ask "how" but then I realized how many cows live on it. Sorry about your friend man.

 

[supremeautismo]

I’ve known (and been friends with) many trans people due to where I live. Most have been perfectly fine, ranging from neutral to really good people. Some have been confused and then detransitioned later (or whatever the equivalent of the non-binary to normal pipeline is,) and some have been awful, ranging from cringey to malicious and dangerous.

Most of my “peak transing” has come from interactions I’ve seen online as well as the few terrible troons I’ve interacted with. This recent trooning is really spinning my head.

I have a relatively recent friend from work. We’ve been casual friends for about a year or so now, maybe a little less. He’s in his late 40s to early 50s, and married to his wife for 10 (no kids, thank God.) Because of work we’re around several trans people, and we’re both friends with some (he’s friends with more than I am.) He told me a month ago he was experiencing dysphoria, and within this month he already had access to hormones.

He got very angry with me when I said that you needed dysphoria to be trans, and some people (Yaniv) lie about being trans to get away with shit. He accused me of being “evil” and “right wing” He said I was making him question himself, because he was worried he didn’t feel “trans enough.” He kept insisting that once someone declares themselves as trans they are, including me. I told him I’m not trans, but he insisted if I said I was, I would be.

I saw him at a party in full drag, but bad drag at that. Shitty Party City wig, cheap dress, etc., avoiding eye contact with us and chatting up men. He’s going behind his wife’s back doing this (as of now I don’t think he’s told her) and if he plans on being the typical tranny he’s going to get AIDS from fucking random men in order to feel “gender euphoric.”

I can’t say anything because we work together and he’s within that friend group, but I feel like I have no one to talk to about this. I’ve expressed this worry to some of the non-trans friends I have and they just sort of shrugged their shoulders. The trans friends are super supportive and are encouraging him every step of the way. I’m pretty sure he’s still angry at me for even accidentally implying that using your Mid-Life crisis to invert your dick might be a bad idea.

None of my business, but I feel a little trapped watching him slowly emotionally crumble. He’s gotten more unstable every time I see him. And it doesn’t help he is hideous as a woman. No amount of hormones would even get him close to looking like a femboy, let alone a woman.

Also pretty tired of having to pretend that men are women, women are men, and “nonbinary” is a thing. I’ve just peaked so much, I’m tired of lying to these people’s faces and pretending like it’s virtuous.

 

[Vingle]

pretty tired of having to pretend that men are women, women are men, and “nonbinary” is a thing. I’ve just peaked so much, I’m tired of lying to these people’s faces and pretending like it’s virtuous.

Just lean back and enjoy the shitshow. You've tried, there's nothing more to do. He will likely just talk shit about you to the other troons if you continue.

 

[glass_houses]

I’ve known (and been friends with) many trans people due to where I live. Most have been perfectly fine, ranging from neutral to really good people. Some have been confused and then detransitioned later (or whatever the equivalent of the non-binary to normal pipeline is,) and some have been awful, ranging from cringey to malicious and dangerous.

Most of my “peak transing” has come from interactions I’ve seen online as well as the few terrible troons I’ve interacted with. This recent trooning is really spinning my head.

I have a relatively recent friend from work. We’ve been casual friends for about a year or so now, maybe a little less. He’s in his late 40s to early 50s, and married to his wife for 10 (no kids, thank God.) Because of work we’re around several trans people, and we’re both friends with some (he’s friends with more than I am.) He told me a month ago he was experiencing dysphoria, and within this month he already had access to hormones.

He got very angry with me when I said that you needed dysphoria to be trans, and some people (Yaniv) lie about being trans to get away with shit. He accused me of being “evil” and “right wing” He said I was making him question himself, because he was worried he didn’t feel “trans enough.” He kept insisting that once someone declares themselves as trans they are, including me. I told him I’m not trans, but he insisted if I said I was, I would be.

I saw him at a party in full drag, but bad drag at that. Shitty Party City wig, cheap dress, etc., avoiding eye contact with us and chatting up men. He’s going behind his wife’s back doing this (as of now I don’t think he’s told her) and if he plans on being the typical tranny he’s going to get AIDS from fucking random men in order to feel “gender euphoric.”

I can’t say anything because we work together and he’s within that friend group, but I feel like I have no one to talk to about this. I’ve expressed this worry to some of the non-trans friends I have and they just sort of shrugged their shoulders. The trans friends are super supportive and are encouraging him every step of the way. I’m pretty sure he’s still angry at me for even accidentally implying that using your Mid-Life crisis to invert your dick might be a bad idea.

None of my business, but I feel a little trapped watching him slowly emotionally crumble. He’s gotten more unstable every time I see him. And it doesn’t help he is hideous as a woman. No amount of hormones would even get him close to looking like a femboy, let alone a woman.

Also pretty tired of having to pretend that men are women, women are men, and “nonbinary” is a thing. I’ve just peaked so much, I’m tired of lying to these people’s faces and pretending like it’s virtuous.

If he tries to talk shit about you to your friends and wreck your reputation, just remind him that he's worthless adulterous scum who can't keep his gender nonspecific genitals in their gender neutral cloth containment, and that you know his wife's mobile number.

 

[1440p Curved Monitor]

He’s going behind his wife’s back doing this (as of now I don’t think he’s told her) and if he plans on being the typical tranny he’s going to get AIDS from fucking random men in order to feel “gender euphoric.”

Tell his wife, even if it's anonymously so it can't be your business. She'll really appreciate it if she doesn't know.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

I discovered my little cousin's twitter account as she uses the same nick on her Xbox One. Searched for it on Twitter because I'm a creep. Besides obviously supporting all the progressive bullshit and being a vegan, she now uses "any pronoun", as it says on her bio. She just made 14. I'm pretty sure this will affect her brother too, who's 5 years younger. The funny part is that her father is somewhat a "redpilled" guy. Well, we are good friends so we discuss political matters and we agree on everything, including jews, racial questions, all that good stuff. Lol, he's even rich and has given truly an incredible life to her, very good education and all. Based on her posts I don't doubt she will "come out" as transgender soon. I will not have kids. There's no escape from this shit.

Give me her xbox live tag so I can call her faggot in party chat.

 

[supremeautismo]

Tell his wife, even if it's anonymously so it can't be your business. She'll really appreciate it if she doesn't know.

I don’t have contact outside of him with her, so sort of stuck on that account. At this point he must have told her because he’s already on hormones and troons aren’t particularly good at hiding it (they might not pass but they insist about bragging about it on social media.) Only time will tell.

 

[Mrs. Addams]

I was helping my trans friend do the grocery shopping last night, and on the way home they wondered to me if a certain cute female employee had noticed them since they shopped their often. I pointed out that they probably are one of very few trans people who frequent that local grocery store and my friend was like, "But how can they tell I'm trans? Do I not pass?" And I was like, "No..."
But I'm a pushover so I copped out to, "...but you should probably ask someone who hasn't known you for a decade," cause they do get maamed occasionally from the rear.

And then afterwords I was thinking about it, and while my friend is super anorexic and might pass for an unhealthy female in baggy clothes, long hair, and a mask, there's no way they pass once they open their mouth and start to talk. I wonder if explaining that would help break them out of the stupidity or just make it worse.

 

[awoo]

I've had one friend who told me a while ago he was going to get surgery. He is a brilliant and very talented guy but very emotional and very stereotypically gay and subby. It's actually quite woman-like how he asks me why I don't care about him and why I don't show my emotions, which I think I do a ton. He told me that looking at his dick in the mirror made him feel sick. I told him having his dick chopped off is not something to do lightly. I wish he would just stick to being a cute gay boy.

 

[Vingle]

I've had one friend who told me a while ago he was going to get surgery. He is a brilliant and very talented guy but very emotional and very stereotypically gay and subby. It's actually quite woman-like how he asks me why I don't care about him and why I don't show my emotions, which I think I do a ton. He told me that looking at his dick in the mirror made him feel sick. I told him having his dick chopped off is not something to do lightly. I wish he would just stick to being a cute gay boy.

It will likely fail and he will suffer for the rest of his life.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/srs-and-grs-surgeons-and-associated-horrors.76786/

 

[supremeautismo]

I've had one friend who told me a while ago he was going to get surgery. He is a brilliant and very talented guy but very emotional and very stereotypically gay and subby. It's actually quite woman-like how he asks me why I don't care about him and why I don't show my emotions, which I think I do a ton. He told me that looking at his dick in the mirror made him feel sick. I told him having his dick chopped off is not something to do lightly. I wish he would just stick to being a cute gay boy.

I could be wrong, but I know several women who I met as “nonbinary” in college who are now either trans men or still nonbinary (or go by he/they pronouns, whatever that means) and all of them lobbed their tits off. It’s been many years since I’ve been in college so maybe they really are trans and it’s truly helped them but I can’t help but feel like these are lesbian Aidens who’ve been brainwashed (they only date other Aidens.)

Most of the queer/nonbinary people I knew in college eventually settled down for a straight relationship (even the ones who identified as lesbians) or stuck to being gay men instead of “genderfuck” (again, whatever that means) but I see so many shitty pencil thin moustaches on feminine faces and it makes me sad. They’ve stuck to it so long that maybe they really are trans, but one Aiden I know dates a trans woman and she lobbed her tits off before she was legally able to drink. It’s dire out here.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

He told me that looking at his dick in the mirror made him feel sick.

He is gonna miss that thing once it gets horribly multilated.

 

[1440p Curved Monitor]

I could be wrong, but I know several women who I met as “nonbinary” in college who are now either trans men or still nonbinary (or go by he/they pronouns, whatever that means) and all of them lobbed their tits off. It’s been many years since I’ve been in college so maybe they really are trans and it’s truly helped them but I can’t help but feel like these are lesbian Aidens who’ve been brainwashed (they only date other Aidens.)

Most of the queer/nonbinary people I knew in college eventually settled down for a straight relationship (even the ones who identified as lesbians) or stuck to being gay men instead of “genderfuck” (again, whatever that means) but I see so many shitty pencil thin moustaches on feminine faces and it makes me sad. They’ve stuck to it so long that maybe they really are trans, but one Aiden I know dates a trans woman and she lobbed her tits off before she was legally able to drink. It’s dire out here.

Saw a Twitter thread that put a good light on this.

https://twitter.com/newthoughtcrime/status/1426166007207538695?s=19

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Tldr Sunk cost fallacy is a bitch. Once you start to go through the work of making people accommodate for you, you're less inclined to go back and more inclined to keep going further with operations.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them detranstiton when it becomes more popular. It'll be sad when it happens, but I won't have much sympathy for those who transitioned as adults.