Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

The really sad thing (for Lucas) is that a lot of schizophrenic people are out there with jobs and relationships and generally living pretty normal lives, because they are treatment compliant and willing to put in work. I remember a few videos ago Lucas said that it’s unfair he has mental illness, and you know what? It totally is, it IS unfair, and the work you put in to live a normal life with mental illness is hard, but that doesn’t mean you should just throw your hands in the air and give up. Especially with the resources he has, plenty of people with mental illnesses don’t have free health insurance or prescription coverage or subsidized rent.
Agreed 100%. At the risk of being too TMI, I’m a person with a mental illness. Often, I feel like I have to work twice as hard as everyone else just to be normal. But you know what? The work I put in is worth it because I’ve got a good job and lots of friends and a relationship with a woman that I often feel is too good for me.

I say this to contrast my situation (along with the situation of lots of people like myself) with Lucas. The reason Lucas is so miserable is because he’s either too lazy or flat out refuses to put in even the slightest effort at treating his mental illness and giving himself a better life. Lucas is able to elicit a crumb of pity from me because of some of the cards he’s been dealt, but what he’s done with them is entirely his own fault. He is everything that is wrong with him, and the older he gets, the less likely he is to go through with the radical course correction that he’s going to need.
 
Lucas not being a danger is what I'm cautious about. The older he gets and no young ovulator comes his way, the more desperate he's going to get. He's already taken steps that several years ago he would not have. His predatory quest for a young woman drove him to enroll in college which he hates. He failed at reeling one in during his time there, so he took another step -- the bars. Now he's banned from the bars across Spokane. Come to find out he's going to church 1 night a week. Thought it was just for the free pot-luck food after the service, but this is Lucas and he'll be "scouting" if there are any available teens/young women among the church goers. Hell, wouldn't put it past him to take pictures/video for the same purpose like he did at the Globe.
Right now what keeps him in check is fear of the law. He doesn't want to end up in prison. The older he gets, his desperation may drive him to overcome his fear.

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Even though he fears the law , as I said prior Lucas reeks of pent up sexual frustration. Alone with a girl, there would no stopping a break through.

I tend to agree with this. More to the point, its not just a matter of desperation leading to dangerous behavior, its the fact that he has a badly treated or untreated mental illness and between that and his poor physical health he is very likely to deteriorate mentally as he ages. Combine that with desperation and I can easily see something happening. It only takes a few seconds of losing his shit for him to do something regular lucas might be too afraid of the law to do. To say nothing of the fact if he ever gets to the point he legitimately feels he is never going to get what he wants and has nothing to lose anyway (especially if he loses his tard housing for some reason).....
 
While honestly, I don't think Lucas will do much of anything, right now he's at that point of losing everything he just isn't aware (he reads here but doesn't trust us and isn't smart enough to see reality) with his last rape vids, as I guessed before I'm sure some one forwarded those to his housing or police etc.

Being in a tard flop house, many people there are "at risk" someone talking about any crime is a danger. He might be tossed soon, I wouldn't rule it out. Frankly, he earned it with those videos. It's not fair someone who's a drooling fuck by no fault of their own should be housed with someone predatory.

Lucas is mentally ill, but he's always been a loser and even if he did a 180 his mind is so gone I don't think he could manage to stay on his own and go to a shrink stock shelves etc. It's a sad reality his illnesses limited him, but he's chosen to turn down so so much, free housing from family, job chances etc.

Honestly, thank goodness aside how inept he is, his cowardice protects the general public.
 
the impulse control issues are really real and can be really scary- people rack up thousands and thousands in credit card debt because mental illness makes the impulse control part of your brain not work so good, for example. That’s my main concern with Lucas is the impulse control issues brought on by his mental health issues, and that’s a problem with pretty much any cluster b personality disorder.
 
Generally I think the farms is a little blase when it comes to the threat people like Lucas or Russell Greer pose, because you don't have to be a swole alpha chad to kill or rape people. Hell, there are a lot of serial killers who were fat/ultra skinny manlets who took out multiple people who theoretically should have been able to stop them. But at the same time most people, even mentally deranged people, don't end up murdering or committing sexual assault. Lucas is a threat, people around him should be cautious, and if something did happen no one should be surprised, but don't hold your breath because nothing is going to happen.
 
I beg to disagree, Lucas lacks any personality or image. He's not very smart aside his mental illnesses and we joke about lizard brained but he really is all he wants to do is stuff himself and cum. (sadly into a child) But he only focuses on things that he thinks will aid them, like Bernie who will give him more EBT cash to get even fatter eating food and a state mandated wife. He's not a socialist, he doesn't care about politics morals etc.

Board games are a new and I assume passing hobby to lure women when he was at college, to... lure women.

I'd say the closest to self awareness Lucas has is he knows he will never be an alpha chad. So he tries other angles to lure children to his fart box to rape.

Lucas legit lacks the brains to have things like hobbies, it's almost tragic if it wasn't so fucking funny.
I don't wish to defend Lucas' intelligence or decision making. He can't pass a basic math class, for example. But if we underestimate his intelligence, we'll lose out on laughs and an appreciation of how ruinous his life is. I suspect he's smart enough to suffer terribly.

Lucas is capable of self-awareness. Go to page 39, and check out his personal reflections. While not a model of introspection and honesty, consider this quote:
I'd be lucky to meet a woman like my mom, but I would still feel dumb. I wouldn't even begin to know what to say. I've never been with an interesting smart pretty girl. Or had one be interested in talking to me because I don't know where to meet them and I don't have enough money to go to bars. I'm also very shy. Especially around smart and interesting and pretty women. If I see any, I turn away really fast and hope they don't notice me or talk to me because I don't want to mess up their lives by telling them I'm bipolar and having them see me cry because I can't give them nice things because I don't have any money and am poor. And smart interesting pretty girls need a guy with security. I don't have any security. I just cry when I think about how much I would like to meet one someday and it makes me cry because I can't give them the security they need. I just cry because I feel so insecure when they're around...
He recognizes that he lacks desirable traits, summarized as "security." He knows he's not a catch. He has demonstrated some degree of self awareness, and it drives him to tears. Lol.l

He is smart enough to recognize how awful he is, and dumb enough to be unable to do anything about it.
 
I'll play the other side of the coin, in respects. Honestly, I do think it's just he's such a chicken shit even in his mania he's not a threat. But you're right you don't have to be hulk hogan to be a danger.

Let us not forget, his DV issue. He also threw a glass shattering it, all because he saw an older man with a younger woman (in his mind they were a couple having the sex he wanted, we don't know it could be work related, daddy daughter dinner out etc) just seeing this caused him to create a danger and glass bombed a restaurant, where people could have been hurt.

This was in a stage of his life, he was much more stable mind you. Lived with a s/o was taking meds and seeing a shrink. Now he's lost in his lonely little room with no human interaction aside yelling at his tablet for kiwis to laugh at. He's not on meds, he's not seeing mental health and over all his illness gets worse, the nature of the disorder. So even if he was doing all he could, he'd be worse off now than at the time he endangered society.

Age is also getting to him as even as he hides it, he's fat he's balding and just over all getting dirtier probably because he isn't forced to bathe as i'm sure his g/f made him. He knows all this so yes, more chances for him to wig out.

Perhaps part of mine and others thoughts about him being to pussy to do shit is because we really don't want to see him go Nick Bate etc. We rather laugh at his mostly harmless antics then see anyone victim of this tub of sped. Lolcows also seem amazing at just skating by on anything or being on the tip of that final snap.

As mentioned before, I do really suspect homelessness being quite soon for him and that will deff cause a chimp out, be it dangerous or just more empty threats, time will tell but his words alone, HIS words (repeated since he reads here and he's dumb) have escalated to a point where it's getting dangerous to house him, around people whom are well, anyone frankly but more so the mentally ill whom are prime candidates for victimizing.
 
Lucas is capable of self-awareness. Go to page 39, and check out his personal reflections. While not a model of introspection and honesty, consider this quote:

He recognizes that he lacks desirable traits, summarized as "security." He knows he's not a catch. He has demonstrated some degree of self awareness, and it drives him to tears. Lol.l

He is smart enough to recognize how awful he is, and dumb enough to be unable to do anything about it.
Keep in mind that quote is from 2010. His mind has gone further downhill since that time. The affect his deterioration of mind can have on his at the time "some degree of self awareness, recognition of how awful he is".
 
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He is smart enough to recognize how awful he is, and dumb enough to be unable to do anything about it.

Slight change: he's smart enough to recognize how awful his life is -- not he, Lucas, personally -- but is either too dumb or too incapacitated by his untreated schizophrenia to do anything about it. Here's something I said back in October (and there's been no improvement at all since then): "It's rather sad how after living in that flophouse room for however long now, it doesn't look like Lucas has done a single thing to make it more "home-like," or at least less ugly and gloomy. Nothing on the walls except dirt spots. He spent a small fortune buying board games he will never even get to play, but never thought to buy so much as a colorful dollar-store plastic box to hold (and hide) the roll of toilet paper he keeps in his room...."

If Lucas would make SOME effort -- enough to take his meds and visit therapists regularly (and by American standards, he is IMMENSELY lucky to have either opportunity in the first place) -- he could make a life that is not great by modern American or first world standards, but still better than what the majority of people alive today have: he has a private room that is warm in winter and dry when it rains, has 24/7 electricity and running water, access to an indoor toilet and bathing facility (even if he does have to share them), easy access to a coin-operated laundry/clothes-washing facility, and is equipped with a full-size fridge/freezer and oven/stove combo, plus a sink. He has an EBT card to cover his food costs, some sort of health coverage (we've seen him with prescription medications before), and a couple hundred dollars in spending money every month, and he presumably has a bus pass he uses to get around the city.

Most Kiwis, I wager, could make this work if you absolutely had to (assuming or pretending you are single, with no dependent children or other family responsibilities). It would be a huge step down from your current living situation, but within two days of getting your first month's cash spending allowance, you'd have that room (and yourself and your clothes) in far better condition than Lucas ever did, especially if you have no job and no other demands upon your time.

But Lucas either can't or won't make even the minimal effort required to make his room something other than a depressing shithole. Not even as much as a wall calendar with a different attractive picture every month, or a couple of fridge magnets, only piles of board games he never plays, and that printed deer sheet he uses as a window curtain. Even messy young children, or teenage slobs, who never clean their rooms will still do something to decorate them. There are even species of birds that are attracted to shiny or colorful things and will take them to decorate their nests. And animals that gather things like dry leaves and grasses, to make their dens or nests or burrows more comfortable -- equivalent to a human buying extra pillows or cushions to make their homes more comfortable.

But Lucas has done nothing at all along those lines. Nothing to make his room more comfortable, nothing to decorate it, no personalizing it at all except for those piles of unplayed expensive board games.
 
Lucas is becoming oddly fixated on the people who surround his fart box and the relationships they’re in.
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It's so painfully clear none of that is real. Lucas can't stand this stuff if it was real he'd be seething, now he's trying to act like he doesn't consider women a scare property (remember he just was saying other dudes are a threat).

God damn, you couldn't even sit in your flop house with out day dreaming the other retards living your dream life. This is as funny as it is sad, dude is slipping the last grasp of ANY reality, soon enough he's gonna have a full on conversation with a toaster.
 
Lucas is becoming oddly fixated on the people who surround his fart box and the relationships they’re in.

He seems to be oddly fixated on the black guy and the 'bbc' and really seems to think everyone in his building is in 'age gap relationships' which makes me think none of it happened. After all, this seems like an escalation of all his nonsense from a month or so ago where he kept claiming he had all these couples in the building and was going on about age gap stuff about them then

This really isn't a good thing for him to be doing. Obsessing over his neighbors and twisting them into his delusions isn't likely to end well and could sooner or later lead to some problems for him. Especially if and when the building staff find out

Also, 'mackin,' 'booled' (wtf does that one even mean) and player-player? Are we sure lucas in gen x and not a boomer? Not to mention the whole 'i'm going to ship my neighbors having sex' stuff. Yeah, that'll totally end well when that stuff ends up on twitter or as the theme of his next board game
 
Board games are a new and I assume passing hobby to lure women when he was at college, to... lure women.

Not to sound like that guy who goes to the zoo every weekend to watch the animals, but the board game thing isn't new; his The Wern channel had a lot of board game stuff, primarily trying to showcase the games he was making/had made, 3+ years ago. He did try to use his home made board games to lure women while he was in college but, uh, I mean I'm sure some college age women are into board games and might find one some person made to be mildly interesting but I also bet even those women wouldn't go near some scruffy looking weirdo in batman PJ bottoms who flopped himself down in a common area, set some board game out, then sat there staring at anyone who even looked at him.

He allegedly used to go to gaming shops to play board games with other board game geeks but got annoyed that it was almost exclusively populated by men around his age, and those aren't people he wants to fuck so he stopped going.

Board game collecting and creating (and presumably playing if he could find anyone to play with) does seem to be the one not creepy hobby he has. For that reason alone, it should probably be something someone in his life encourages as it's a harmless thing that makes him happy--ish.

I can't really laugh at the board game thing as I collect odd and mostly useless things that I pay way too much for as well. On the other hand, I know the things I collect are pretty frivolous and mostly interesting only to me.
 
If these people are real, it’s entirely possible that they’re just hanging out with their friends. He seems to have absolutely no concept of relationships that aren’t sexual or romantic.
Or, you know, if they’re having all these people over, they could just be selling drugs.

ETA that he’s also a terrible judge of age and these “22-23 year old” girls might be, like, 30.
 
He allegedly used to go to gaming shops to play board games with other board game geeks but got annoyed that it was almost exclusively populated by men around his age, and those aren't people he wants to fuck so he stopped going.

Board game collecting and creating (and presumably playing if he could find anyone to play with) does seem to be the one not creepy hobby he has. For that reason alone, it should probably be something someone in his life encourages as it's a harmless thing that makes him happy--ish.

I can't really laugh at the board game thing as I collect odd and mostly useless things that I pay way too much for as well. On the other hand, I know the things I collect are pretty frivolous and mostly interesting only to me.
"If" he did go to play board games, along with the lack of young women, I'd say the game geeks were not "receptive" to his insanity and likely told him his games are shit.
 
I can't really laugh at the board game thing as I collect odd and mostly useless things that I pay way too much for as well. On the other hand, I know the things I collect are pretty frivolous and mostly interesting only to me.

Yeah, but I'm going to guess you didn't start buying these things until AFTER you had such basic niceties as "a sheet to put on your mattress" and "more clothing than just two or three filthy old shirts."
 
Lucas shipping his neighbors in age gap relationships, whose names he doesn't know, is a delightful development. I want more of that.

On the subject of Lucas' danger, I've a question for those that suspect he could become a truly monstrous, Nick Bate type in of character: what red flags do you see? Obviously, there are lots of disturbing behaviors to point to, but I'm curious which ones concern us the most, and hint at something worse than sperging.
 
Lucas shipping his neighbors in age gap relationships, whose names he doesn't know, is a delightful development. I want more of that.

On the subject of Lucas' danger, I've a question for those that suspect he could become a truly monstrous, Nick Bate type in of character: what red flags do you see? Obviously, there are lots of disturbing behaviors to point to, but I'm curious which ones concern us the most, and hint at something worse than sperging.

Easily the delusions. Lucas thinks that people are flirting with him. He thinks that others want him and desire him over their bfs. The disconnection from reality means that if he sees a girl and convinces himself that the girl wants to fuck him, I’m not convinced he will recognize them saying no. Or I could see him going off on innocent folks he believes are KF trolls. He has no grip on reality. His reality testing is not intact.
 
I really still am in the camp Lucas is too cowardly and inept to do anything plus as his posts before show he's a huge narc, even if he did go and do something like rape, he'd be demanding she praise him the whole time.

But, his sexual talk is pretty spooky, not only does it show he's not really aware how sex works (those chewing on labia comments for example) but it's a power thing, and he sure seems to lean towards enjoying hurting his partner. While I try to be open and respectful to people's private kinks and weird sex stuff, I can not see the human body wanting to take a fist in the anus, that's stuff you see in porn for shock value, unless you are also one of those people whom are into pain. I mean diff strokes and all, but Lucas is semi aware and one thing he knows, his ding dong is broken due to medical things and prior meds as well.

He's not very smart so, slang probably gets lost to him, putting a hurt on that ass you know? Vigorous sex. Well since he can't fuck a girl senseless, he might as well jam his whole ham hock of a hand into her butt hole. That'll get her going.

I do think we don't much touch on him being a narc while his other disorders are so much more glaring, if indeed Lucas did rape someone, he in no way could keep his trap shut, even he knows this. Granted he will spin it but he'd come on the net to boast, how he sweet talked his way into this totally willing teen's panties. We'd all know it's a lie because it's Lucas and no woman esp a young attractive female would sleep with a fat dude with MRSA. I think all the Wern Watchers, be them kiwi soflaw etc would be rushing around to find this person since we know no one would be willingly sleeping with lucas (and if they did they probably are a fucking amazing lol cow / hearld of nurgle) we'd be trying to find a rape victim.
 
Lucas shipping his neighbors in age gap relationships, whose names he doesn't know, is a delightful development. I want more of that.

On the subject of Lucas' danger, I've a question for those that suspect he could become a truly monstrous, Nick Bate type in of character: what red flags do you see? Obviously, there are lots of disturbing behaviors to point to, but I'm curious which ones concern us the most, and hint at something worse than sperging.
Below is from that 2010 Lucas reflection. He does have a history of violent behavior, and this was before the domestic violence conviction. Here he says sometimes, but it is sure with Lucas, he does "sanitize" to make himself not look bad. I'd say his violent behavior was a major contributor that led his family to leave Lucas on his own. He's been homeless, almost freezing, no family claimed him. His one girlfriend Suzanne, we know how that ended, with Lucas serving time in jail.

In Montesano I worked for my step dad here and there. I washed dishes at the Beehive Family Diner in Monte. What little cash I had extra I would buy booze just to feel uninhibited and have a laugh. I got into LSD from some poor choices of friends. I tripped. I would have fun if I could get away with it. My fake assed friends left me by the wayside because that's what fake assed friends do. I had a break with reality. Started hallucinating even without the acid. My parents insisted I see a shrink if they were going to continue to allow me to live at home with my erratic, emotional and sometimes violent behavior. So I did. We moved to Olympia. I had a few more nervous break downs. Most of 2000-2004 is a blur. Even when I had my own place to live in assisted living by 2003 or 2002, (I'm not exactly sure, to tell you the truth) I was alone. Felt stranded. Smoked weed or drank when I could afford a little. Had trouble concentrating and managing my money responsibly. I spent most days wishing I was dead and this hell was over. I would have night terrors from the drug cocktail of anti-psychotics and anti-depressants I was on.
 
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