Crime Machine deploys fog in retail stores to deter burglars - This is probably racist.

Machine deploys fog in retail stores to deter burglars

Note: There's a video the site isn't allowing me to upload. Saved it as an MP4 two different ways, neither is allowed here. Both worked on my computer.

CHICAGO (CBS) -- A burglar who can't see something can't steal it either – that is the idea behind a new method of deterring crime by using fog.

As CBS 2's Tara Molina reported Tuesday, the technology behind the fog release is a brand-new way of fighting the mass retail thefts plaguing the city.

In Lincoln Park, one small business was hit by thieves and cleared out twice in a year. The owner knows how badly it hurts.

"My store was robbed almost six months ago, and I still don't have a settlement from my insurance company," the owner said.

It is a problem that has been plaguing business across Chicago for years.

"Look at Michigan Avenue," the Lincoln Park business owner said. "We're down 30 percent. People are just moving out."

Problem, meet solution. It comes in an opaque white box – and it may not look like much at first glance. But it only takes seconds for the box to make the difference.

"DensityUSA's instant fog technology is pretty unique," said Mike Egel, president and chief executive officer of DensityUSA. "When a criminal breaks in after hours, the alarm deploys; the fog deploys, and in seconds, your business is going to be protected."

Security Fog Protects A Gunshop by DensityUSA on YouTube

The reason, Egel said, is because the burglars won't be able to see what they're doing.

"They literally can't see it to steal it," he said.
Security Fog Demonstration by DensityUSA on YouTube

DensityUSA's non-toxic, no-grime fog tech is being used across the world - successfully, according to Egel. But the tech just started rolling out in the U.S.

"So our line is warn, alert, repel - and the repel actually works," Egel said.

Robbery clip 2 by DensityUSA on YouTube

We ran the numbers. Both theft and robbery are up this year in Chicago.

Theft is at the highest level we have seen since 2019, robbery at the highest level since 2018.

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This tech aims to prevent another hit like the kind the Lincoln Park business suffered twice.

The basic model runs around $7,000.

"It'll fill up about 1,000 square feet in roughly 15 seconds," Egel said.

The Lincoln Park store is the first in Chicago, and in Illinois, to put the fog to the test. The owner didn't want herself or her store identified, but she did want to share information about the fog tech with other business owners – and with the public at large.

"It just gives me peace of mind," the business owner said. "I sleep better."

DensityUSA's technology has been in place in the Lincoln Park store for about a month. They haven't had to use it yet.

The owner hopes it will make all the difference.

The DensityUSA technology is being used in stores across the country in states like California, Missouri, and Tennessee. The company is talking to retailers now interested in bringing more of the tech to Chicago.
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Tara Molina is a general assignment reporter for CBS2 Chicago.
 
Just steal the building and light a couple of tires on fire. That way you get the nice black smoke.
 
These things have been around for several years now, I remember seeing a news report about them on youtube at least 5 years ago, and they are reportedly pretty effective because your typical burglar gets spooked by the sound and rapidly growing cloud of fog and just takes off. I suspect the more common it is the less effective it will be, though it definitely will slow them down significantly or make the trip not worth it unless they cased the place and rehearsed like in better call saul. I think our modern breed of mob looter emboldened by dem policies in the post floyd era would just vindictively set the place on fire after this deploys.
 
While it's a neat and inventive idea, the second someone trips and hurts themselves on it, the store will be sued out the ass.

Same case law as for people who get sued when they booby trap their house and the burglar sues afterwards.
With widely publicized exceptions, a trespasser can't successfully sue for harm they cause themselves, even as a result of security measures like gates with spikes on top. Unfortunately, if you're actually in need of such measures, you're probably in some shithole in Commiefornia or some Mogadishu-tier no-man's-land where such lawsuits might succeed. And if you're in a normal jurisdiction where they won't, you probably don't need to take such extreme measures in the first place because people aren't constantly Kool-Aid-Manning into your property and stealing everything.
 
Effectiveness is irrelevant, really - These things appease insurance companies with more 'defense and deterrence' that they demand as they have to pay out more and more to cover claims from theft. Sticking one of these in your store makes a bean counter feel more confident and knock a chunk off your premiums.

These things have been around for several years now, I remember seeing a news report about them on youtube at least 5 years ago, and they are reportedly pretty effective because your typical burglar gets spooked by the sound and rapidly growing cloud of fog and just takes off. I suspect the more common it is the less effective it will be, though it definitely will slow them down significantly or make the trip not worth it unless they cased the place and rehearsed like in better call saul. I think our modern breed of mob looter emboldened by dem policies in the post floyd era would just vindictively set the place on fire after this deploys.
A good point, the average criminal is pants on head retarded, not rational. Set a speaker up to announce "Deploying Nerve Gas" as it goes off and you'll spook 'em good.
 
Not the dumbest idea I've ever heard in principle, but come on. Some people literally get to the point where they build up an immunity to pepper spray and tasers, you really think that fog is going to do anything but create enough confusion to turn shoplifting into outright looting once it goes off? And like people have already pointed out, you're just creating easy lawsuit fuel, and some unlucky asshole might get even convicted on a bullshit murder charge for deploying it once some thieving nigger happens to drop dead at the wrong time after they did too much meth and fentanyl inhaled the racist, murderous water vapor.
 
Effectiveness is irrelevant, really - These things appease insurance companies with more 'defense and deterrence' that they demand as they have to pay out more and more to cover claims from theft. Sticking one of these in your store makes a bean counter feel more confident and knock a chunk off your premiums.
It depends on whether having to pay out on theft claims costs more than the occasional catastrophic case where some nog ends up a quadriplegic and collects a giant jackpot. Actuarial guys are pretty good at figuring that out. And some of these war zones are so fucked that you can either not get insurance for "shrinkage" at all or it's astronomical.

In those places, it's a choice between desperate measures like this or just shutting down.
Not the dumbest idea I've ever heard in principle, but come on. Some people literally get to the point where they build up an immunity to pepper spray and tasers, you really think that fog is going to do anything but create enough confusion to turn shoplifting into outright looting once it goes off?
It isn't for shoplifting, it's for burglary when the place is closed. They don't just steal a couple things, they clean the whole store out, or at least every valuable thing in it, into a panel van out back and you come back to a completely looted store. This isn't just some nog stealing some razor blades, it's often organized operations that just obliterate your entire inventory in an hour.
 
For 500 points what is object permanence

It's not like I stop remembering things exist or where they are the second I can't see them

Not only that but now your CCTV is useless
 
It's not like I stop remembering things exist or where they are the second I can't see them
Well if you already have the layout of the place memorized and are looking for one thing. I usually do that anywhere I live so I can cope if the lights go out (or if there is an intruder).

If you're just some crackhead retard smashing and stealing, it will be disorienting. You're assuming we're dealing with humans here.
 
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If you're just some crackhead retard smashing and stealing, it will be disorienting. You're assuming we're dealing with humans here.
Crackheads just go in, grab an armful of whatever is closest and runs off in broad daylight.

The folks that burglarize and empty an entire store, transferring all the goods into a back of a stolen u-haul truck are nor crackheads, they are professionals.

This will not deter them at all or even hinder their heist the slightest. If they already are prepared to steal a u-haul truck for their burglary they are also prepared to steal an industrial air blower at the nearest hardware rental place.
I am thinking the kind of huge fan you rent for 50$ a day when you have had a water leak and need to dry out your house. One of those fans will blow the smoke away in seconds.
 
A good point, the average criminal is pants on head retarded, not rational. Set a speaker up to announce "Deploying Nerve Gas" as it goes off and you'll spook 'em good.
Na. Have "Welcome to the Jungle" play as soon as the fog triggers, then have a strobe lamp start pulsing and a recorded voice announces the claymore Roomba is being deployed.
 
The folks that burglarize and empty an entire store, transferring all the goods into a back of a stolen u-haul truck are nor crackheads, they are professionals.
They're also into target selection and the kind of stuff they steal isn't generally in these ghetto stores where you need some device like this. They're likely to be targeting something like a high end clothing store, not a low end liquor store or convenience store.

It's probably ultimately impractical but anything that slows someone down by even a few seconds is an opportunity for them to get caught.
 
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