"Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

volatile puar said:
Presuming that KYC is capable of a zero knowledge proof (which I find to be unlikely, in large part because any kind of KYC is the opposite of NP hard, everyone knows the solution in advance and the difficult part is finding out whether the solution is truthful, or in other words, if Kiwifarms.net gives the user a prompt asking "are you 18 or older", everyone knows the solution is yes, but it's very difficult to verify that the user is telling the truth) there are two big problems with this. 1 it's unlikely that you can actually get people to trust the science that it serves as proof, and in fact it's very unlikely that anyone will understand the algorithms well enough to have a rational belief that it can actually prove that someone is 18 or older and that the proof remains valid under a zero knowledge scenario. 2 they actually want the data, as is proven by the Tea app leak, since Tea promised to delete ID photos after they are verified (since Tea was literally made by a faggot it's likely he actually wanted people to find the public bucket).
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Firstly, Tea app isn't representative of anything in the wider world. It was clearly vibe coded or done using LLMs and had no concept of security. I'm pretty sure that even if a data breach never happened they probably violated a bunch of privacy related laws anyway. The idea that they promised to delete photos after they were verified may not have even technically been true and was just a result of them copy/pasting text from an LLM. As you already mentioned it was designed by a retard.

It is of course possible and even likely that some services to actually want to get large amounts of user ID data - however, most companies, even the "evil" ones like Google/Meta really don't because it creates huge liabilities and in particular trust issues. All it takes is a major data leak and they lose tons of customers and end up with lawsuits all over the place - they would rather just take your money and be done with it and do the bare minimum when it comes to ID shit. In fact, most of these services specifically hate having to deal with ID because when you ask customers for it you get user churn (as in many customers will just close the webpage instead of scanning their penis using their webcam)

Secondly, zero knowledge proofs for KYC and similar are mostly an idea that is coming together from the internet and not really from governments. Therefore, the government or users actually understanding how it works doesn't matter at all - just the same way as users have no idea how Discord works at a server/system level or how signing on to a 3rd party website using your google account works.
 
Mastercard has put out a cope response to the Steam censorship
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Links and shit here:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/payme...ercard-stripe-paypal-etc.224937/post-22140867
 
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neger psykolog said:
Secondly, zero knowledge proofs for KYC and similar are mostly an idea that is coming together from the internet and not really from governments. Therefore, the government or users actually understanding how it works doesn't matter at all - just the same way as users have no idea how Discord works at a server/system level or how signing on to a 3rd party website using your google account works.
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The government will not require a zkp because they will not trust the science. If a website needs kyc, they will not use zkp unless they trust the science. I don't think it's likely that they will trust the science. If anything, you will probably get an unreliable algorithm used by a few places that are very privacy focused, and everyone else will just hire someone to look at your ID.
EDIT: I guess I'll say something about Tea, too, although who knows if anyone will read it. Tea was made before vibecoding existed, and even if it is true that the jeet they hired to make the app claimed they would delete the data without asking the owner, it's still true that they chose to keep the data. It's certainly true that websites don't like requiring ID since it scares away users, but it's retarded to think they won't use that data and sell it to advertisers. Maybe they won't actually keep the photo, but they'll copy the relevant info.
 
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True and honest Null, you're echoing, please no ban :o

EDIT: Audio much better now @ 15 min mark!
 
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Mr.F. said:
Tim Pool finally took off his beanie. Here's te Kino Casino reaction:


Is his communnity habbeninb worthy?
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He wears that beanie so he can walk around unnoticed by the radical left when he walks his bald head through the streets. Now he removes the anonymizing beanie on an Antifa podcast. He has betrayed the deepest trust of the beanie army.
 
I wonder what Null will say about the Blackrock CEO who got killed. Because pretty much every celebrant of her death was a troon so maybe seeing that is enough reason to not be pro-crime, regardless of if it worked out here.

You’re basically supporting and hoping for more left wing terrorism if you get this wrong (same with Luigi Mangione btw). The loudest supporters of both murders are losers who want criminals to vicariously settle their grudges against society. Likewise, the Bolsheviks (and other revolutionary parties) tolerated criminality in their ranks during the Revolution not just for muscle but to make ordinary life impossible and because they knew the detritus would flock to them anyway. Antifa does the same thing too. It’s the natural way of these things.
 
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