"Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

And yet there doesn't pass a single week where I don't hear a man whine about their high suicide statistics, male depression and how men feel sad because they can't talk to anyone about their feelings? Why do men make memes like this?

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It's because modern society is rather shitty for men in a lot of ways that creates these things, not because they have no one to cry to. Everything from divorce to hiring policies are stacked against you if you're a dude, and if you point any of it out you're told it's your fault to begin with, and a lot of men who try to persevere despite all of that keep running into that wall until it becomes overwhelmed and they either troon out or blow their brains out. Hell, just the whole culture of any time a dude accomplishes something it has to be spun as being the work of a curly haired black woman is annoying as shit.

The only reason Andrew Tate and people like him are as popular as they are, is because they say incredibly basic shit like it's ok to not want to deal with all of the faggotry in society. Had there been more outlets of that, people wouldn't follow them as their dumb shit would be more noticeable by comparison.

I'm not even saying you can't succeed as a man in society, I've done fine, and many others have too, but I'm guessing the people who do are on the upper end of the spectrum as there seems to be a massive demand for Internet dad simulators and anything that tells them that it's not just them but shits a bit fucky and there is actually another option besides the narrow path created for some soy blob.
 
I'm not even saying you can't succeed as a man in society, I've done fine
Aren't you the guy who is obsessed with the furry woman that pretends to be a 2 year old rabbit anime girl on the internet?

Me too, I'd rather the ones who say that as some sort of cry for help bullshit just off themselves and spare everyone else the trouble.
Based.
 
The troon doesn't understand male friendships or how men carry themselves within society. Every society (China is going to have to MUTT itself because of all the aborted baby girls) values men less than women because men are the more disposable sex, even in a world where we will just immigrate people in from the Third World that doesn't go away. I think men innately know this, that they have to compete to stand out. Women are less motivated for this by society and biology, I think. The modern woman has been told they are not just as good, but they are better and that men are favored by an unjust society and that society is holding back women.

The pooners basically are a porn sick, potentially molested woman, who are trying to be male because they think the patricarchy does exist when in reality if it does then it's old lions killing the younger lions.
 
Have to say I totally disagree with Null's take when he played the pooner video. I see men cry all the time about male suicide rates due to not being able to share their emotions and not having anyone to talk to and how being a man is so lonely and you're never allowed to cry blahblah. That's not just something that pooners feel, this is a sentiment widely shared among men of all political spectrums and while liberal men blame "toxic masculinity" right wing men blame "feminism" and women being so mean to them when they cry (cause they trauma-dump on random women and the women are like "ew, wtf?").

This is all of course entirely self-imposed because the people who make fun of men for wanting friendship and to share their feelings are other men (like Null) saying that shit is gay. Women work hard to build social structures around them, put in effort to make and keep friendships, send out birthday cards, gifts, call each other up to see how they are doing, listen to each other and offer emotional support. In turn women are rewarded by having social companionship and people they can go cry to and get help with their problems from. Men want this same thing but without putting in any effort whatsoever. Men usually entirely rely on women to do emotional labor for them that's why they move on from mommy to wife and can barely function when left to their own devices and become depressed angry incels when no woman is around to help them process their feelings, which they have never had to learn how to do on their own.

This problem could easily be solved if men just learned how to talk to each other without making fun of each other for having feelings.
Gay. What are you, a fag?
 
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When I'm depressed I use my home gym (no minorities) to forget about the pain. It'll probably [REDACTED] before I suicide.

BTW @Null you used to update us on losing 0.5lbs a week How's that going? Hoping having to deal with the blackouts haven't made you stress eat.
 
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And yet there doesn't pass a single week where I don't hear a man whine about their high suicide statistics, male depression and how men feel sad because they can't talk to anyone about their feelings? Why do men make memes like this?
good my nigger you are literally on the fucking darkweb on the notorious hatespeech site kwikiforms.

everyone here is by definition terminally online

anyone have an archive of the last show that didn't get holocausted?
 
Really good idea to stop playing random garbage songs live and encourage people to have interesting thought provoking superchats in order to stay true to the original form of the streams. Almost everyone else would just take the money and say fuck it, the first person who comes to mind that is guilty of this is Rekieta.

I am late to the discussion, but I think Null should shill to the maximum extent his dignity allows and any handwringing about the “quality” of the podcast is whiny bullshit.

I do not begrudge the man the opportunity to make as much money as possible before the payment processors notice him again.

I don’t care if that means wading through weird parasocial bullshit. Any awkwardness is padded by the fact that my boy Null is squirrelling away cash for future pizza day.

If Null made enough money to disappear forever to a farm in Montana, I’d be sad MATI was over, but god damn does he deserve some peace and security.
It's not for his dignity, it's for the listeners of the streams - their enjoyment of a show which is interesting, funny, concise, doesn't waste their time needlessly, and one which rises above the usual dreck that "content creators" put out. If he really just wanted money then he could hustle a lot more by censoring, bending the knee, running low quality merch, etc. Its not about dignity, its about integrity.

Josh you're being groomed by the Megumins. By even indulging them you are being brought closer to anime. Today you even went as far as playing weeb music on your stream and that just shows how much influence they already have over you. You have to trust your instinct and never pay attention to anime avatars.

These degenerates worship a 14 year old anime girl. Use your brain please.
This song was used as the outro for the Deagle Nation steam. Music is music.

Have to say I totally disagree with Null's take when he played the pooner video. I see men cry all the time about male suicide rates due to not being able to share their emotions and not having anyone to talk to and how being a man is so lonely and you're never allowed to cry blahblah. That's not just something that pooners feel, this is a sentiment widely shared among men of all political spectrums and while liberal men blame "toxic masculinity" right wing men blame "feminism" and women being so mean to them when they cry (cause they trauma-dump on random women and the women are like "ew, wtf?").

This is all of course entirely self-imposed because the people who make fun of men for wanting friendship and to share their feelings are other men (like Null) saying that shit is gay. Women work hard to build social structures around them, put in effort to make and keep friendships, send out birthday cards, gifts, call each other up to see how they are doing, listen to each other and offer emotional support. In turn women are rewarded by having social companionship and people they can go cry to and get help with their problems from. Men want this same thing but without putting in any effort whatsoever. Men usually entirely rely on women to do emotional labor for them that's why they move on from mommy to wife and can barely function when left to their own devices and become depressed angry incels when no woman is around to help them process their feelings, which they have never had to learn how to do on their own.

This problem could easily be solved if men just learned how to talk to each other without making fun of each other for having feelings.
Addressed when he observed how often people who deviate from the norm suffer from mental illness. For men it's overemotional oversocialized men who don't fit in, for women it's stoic independent women who don't fit in. The social reasons for these norms isn't really what is being discussed, just the fact that there are certain norms which exist, and observable deviations from it which more often than not are the result of, or exacerbate, mental illness. The norms themselves may well be negatively reinforcing harmful stereotypes we'd be better off without, but that's not really the point.
This is all of course entirely self-imposed because the people who make fun of men for wanting friendship and to share their feelings are other men (like Null) saying that shit is gay.
He has never said having male friends is gay. In fact while refuting disaffected aloof Internet daddy types like Dick Masterson, he has gone out of his way to tell people to get off the Internet and go make friends with other men, go out and shoot a deer and skin it, do something, because caring about things is not gay. I don't recall the stream but this is a quote almost verbatim,
And yet there doesn't pass a single week where I don't hear a man whine about their high suicide statistics, male depression and how men feel sad because they can't talk to anyone about their feelings? Why do men make memes like this?

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Probably for the same reason why women make memes about feminism patriarchy and rape. In case you missed it, an entire genre of youtube videos were spawned in 2014-2015 by the likes of Serg'n of Akkad to refute memes like that. Think of how stupid the average person is, and now realize that half of them are stupider than that. These memes appeal to and intersect with the aforementioned norms that define clear and observable differences between the sexes. We are similar and distinct in strange and ludicrous ways.
"Why do I constantly see memes about male suicide?!" He cried, as he replied "Based" to a post that told men to kill themselves for being whiny bitches. Haha, you cannot possibly be real right now. And if you are, you cannot possibly care about the reasons for all of this beyond a superficial understanding. Please say sike.
 
Addressed when he observed how often people who deviate from the norm suffer from mental illness. For men it's overemotional oversocialized men who don't fit in, for women it's stoic independent women who don't fit in. The social reasons for these norms isn't really what is being discussed, just the fact that there are certain norms which exist, and observable deviations from it which more often than not are the result of, or exacerbate, mental illness. The norms themselves may well be negatively reinforcing harmful stereotypes we'd be better off without, but that's not really the point.

This, and the following two paragraphs are interesting, and I wish I'd caught MATI yesterday to hear this segment. And I agree, I'm almost certain I've heard Josh urging men to "go out and chop wood," so to speak (or maybe literally in this case), and I've thought it a little surprising (not in any bad way at all, but I'll spare you my extended thoughts on it) and really great. It's both a simple and literal good thing to do, and a symbol of a couple of larger concepts ("man stuff," as well as healthy outlets and character development).

Anyway, I like it. I am curious, though, about the mental health part at the start of your paragraph. I can see any overemotional, oversocialized person being potentially prone to mental health ups and downs, but I've not observed that being particularly men ("hysteria" was the early chosen name, after all, for one strain of it, anyway). Similarly, I'm trying to think of examples of "stoic, independent women" that would support an idea of greater-than-average (or even a notable concentration of) mental illness. I guess to me, both "independent" and "stoic" (in the sense of emotion-management and resilience, not necessarily being a Stoic) are typically positive attributes and a sign of emotional health, whether or not it results in a "typical" female experience. So I'm curious what you (or @Null, if that was part of his thoughts on the point) have in mind on that part. Not really challenging it, just wondering what is the "type" or experience in mind, and wanting to think it through.
 
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Anyway, I like it. I am curious, though, about the mental health part at the start of your paragraph. I can see any overemotional, oversocialized person being potentially prone to mental health ups and downs, but I've not observed that being particularly men ("hysteria" was the early chosen name, after all, for one strain of it, anyway).
Hysteria was a specific diagnosis just for women when it existed.

I've honestly run into very few overemotional oversocialized men in mental health except for those that were flamboyant gays wanting attention or had serious mental illness effecting their behavior.
 
Similarly, I'm trying to think of examples of "stoic, independent women" that would support an idea of greater-than-average (or even a notable concentration of) mental illness.
The topic was originally broached with a video of a pooner (a female who transitioned to male, with a full beard and everything) crying because making male friends was much harder than making female friends. This is because she didn't understand the difference between how men and women relate to one another. She (pooners) is an example of a woman who does not fit in with traditional women social norms (I'm not like the other girls) so she poons out - like the men who do not fit in with traditional men social norms (suck it up and stop crying bro) so they troon out. Many such cases, but trooning and pooning is just one consequence of people who don't fit in not finding adequate outlets to relieve the stress incurred as a result. At least that's my understanding of it.
 
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