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Null, the scary thing is DSP is the tech friend in his group (if he has one). People are so fucking tech illiterate that it will make you Canadian healthcare.

People buy iPads with cell service because they can’t figure how to connect it to their WiFi. True story.
 
If jersh is looking for something life is strange-esque I would recommend night in the woods it's connected to zoe Quinn and only 3-4 hours long
Connected to Zoe Quinn in that she caused the creator to fucking kill himself
 
Josh for next stream would you consider doing a "top 10 signature burns" segment? I nominate this one:

Post in thread 'Nicholas Robert Rekieta / Rekieta Law / @NickRekieta' https://kiwifarms.net/threads/nicholas-robert-rekieta-rekieta-law-nickrekieta.53871/post-19029802 jack.png

I think most people know it's not your fault and it's all in good fun
 
lmao can't believe I put this post together but never hit Post Reply.

Mad at the Internet for August 6th, 2024 has been archived to MATI Archive #404 on YouTube:

 
@Null In the interest of improving, will you please lay out your grievances with phone-posters.

In my case accessing the farms on a work computer would result in immediate summary execution by HR.
 
X-posting from the reddit thread- Steve Huffman aka spez is considering ways to gatekeep reddit's valuable bot and porn content.
Reddit CEO Steve Huffman has hinted that in future some subreddits could be paywalled, as the company seeks to devise new sources of income.

Huffman raised the prospect during an earnings call in which he said Reddit would also be testing AI-powered search results later this year …


Reddit’s drive for cash​

Reddit has been very focused on making money both in the run-up to its IPO, and since.

The first big news on this front was more than a year ago, when the company started charging developers for API calls, forcing the closure of the popular third-party app Apollo. That led to wide-scale protests that the company had to forcibly shut down.

It was subsequently revealed that the company had signed a deal with Google to allow Reddit posts to be used as training data, which subsequently saw the company blocking all other search engines.

AI search could generate ad revenue​

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I have doubts that this could work in practice, primarily because a big part what makes reddit useful is the ability for anyone to comment, you'd lose the people who have knowledge but aren't going to spend money to share it. Then there's moderation; is reddit going to pay for moderation because its a paid premium experience, unlikely as they just want money but then who is going to spend the money to moderate ie who's going to pay to volunteer for a company; or will moderators get free access in which case how do you get the moderators in the first place?

What will likely happen is these paid subreddits will end up being just like the wave of dead subreddits, you'll occasionally see a post that might get some interaction but it's not people's go to place. They may get a ton of people for the first month or two trying it out(especially if there's a free trial) but very few people will be interested in paying and the subreddits will die down until no one is left, after all if there's no content then why would you keep paying and it would enter a death spiral as more people have that same thought.
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Engadget reports that Huffman now sees AI-powered search as a potential revenue source.

During the call, the Reddit co-founder said the company would begin testing AI-powered search results later this year [and] that search could one day be a significant source of advertising revenue for the company.

Some subreddits could be paywalled​

More worryingly, Huffman also hinted that in future some subreddits could be paywalled.

He suggested that the company might experiment with paywalled subreddits as it looks to monetize new features. “I think the existing, altruistic, free version of Reddit will continue to exist and grow and thrive just the way it has,” Huffman said. “But now we will unlock the door for new use cases, new types of subreddits that can be built that may have exclusive content or private areas, things of that nature.”

9to5Mac’s Take​

This is another move likely to anger Redditors. While the platform is a commercial enterprise, its value derives almost entirely from freely offered user content. That means Redditors feel at least some sense of ownership in a community endeavour, so the company needs to tread carefully when it comes to monetization at user expense.
Soon you may have to pay for the 1% of valuable 5k member hobbyist communities, and you will use google for the only search engine that isn't rejected by robots.txt because after 19 years reddit's search still is unusable.
 
I genuinely struggle to think of what subreddits would be worth paying for. I think their best bet would be to target porn and make any 18+ age gated content subscriber only. They would want to leave the small subs open so that people actually join and use their platform and it would keep them relevant in Google search results. They already basically do this because if you even want to visit gun subs you need to sign in and consent to 18+.

The benefit they'd have in Reddit Gold allowing people to see porn is that it's a good way for people to hide their motivations in buying it and selling it. Reddit can say that they're selling a whole suite of features and that the agegated content is just a byproduct, and the consumers can say the same thing.
 
Null I was watching an old MATI episode and you mentioned you have lived in the Philippines in the past. I wanted to ask what that experience was like? What were the pros and cons of living there? A lot of moids who go there are old creeps so I am curious about your perspective as the rare white guy who didn't go to Southeast Asia for sexpat reasons
 
I think their best bet would be to target porn and make any 18+ age gated content subscriber only.
This would kill them immediately, as all the porn subs are just onlyfans ads now.

Reddit is completely fucked, it just doesn't know it yet, and the porn ban is coming (lol)

Also someone clip the LGB/RGB segment, that laugh would go far on the talking tics.
 
The bigger question is how does reddit deal with the shitstorm when the subs are moderated by unpaid jannies?

The only boards worth paying for access to would be healthy and active ones. Those boards are healthy and active partly because they're well-moderated by a longstanding team. So what if the team protests that they're still not getting paid and all resign in protest? Install your own Reddit Corporate mod team who change the whole culture of the board overnight? Also, wouldn't those boards suddenly become less active when no one can post there for free, and nobody bothers paying in order to have the privilege of contributing value?
 
This would kill them immediately, as all the porn subs are just onlyfans ads now.
yeah, they're just eating into reddit's market. reddit can go into competition with of and pay them somehow. more women prostituting on reddit = more money.

avariciously speaking, if you run a community that hates you because you're spez and your own mother probably hates you, there's only one road to go.

Null I was watching an old MATI episode and you mentioned you have lived in the Philippines in the past. I wanted to ask what that experience was like? What were the pros and cons of living there? A lot of moids who go there are old creeps so I am curious about your perspective as the rare white guy who didn't go to Southeast Asia for sexpat reasons
I didn't get to do much. I lived in Manilla for 7 months and visited Japan. During that time I was mostly working.

Filipinos are very nice to you as a huwitey but it is a very, very hot and humid country and the city is very dirty. I will say that seeing the corrugated aluminium encampments built up around the river instills a profound sense of gratitude. I think everyone should see abject poverty in person.
 
The bigger question is how does reddit deal with the shitstorm when the subs are moderated by unpaid jannies?

The only boards worth paying for access to would be healthy and active ones. Those boards are healthy and active partly because they're well-moderated by a longstanding team. So what if the team protests that they're still not getting paid and all resign in protest? Install your own Reddit Corporate mod team who change the whole culture of the board overnight? Also, wouldn't those boards suddenly become less active when no one can post there for free, and nobody bothers paying in order to have the privilege of contributing value?
It would definitely shift the culture but "people" like merari and bardfinn are paid by the taxpayers and are in it for power and control not money. They'd never give up their mop in protest. Shit they'd probably pay to janny
 
yeah, they're just eating into reddit's market. reddit can go into competition with of and pay them somehow. more women prostituting on reddit = more money.
onlyfans and reddit are roughly the same size/valuation .... merger opportunities and spinning off SFW reddit as something else are real possibilities

fucking scary, tbh
 
During the Sopranos talk on the superchats, this gem of a comment popped up lmao
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Huffman raised the prospect during an earnings call in which he said Reddit would also be testing AI-powered search results later this year …
They could never figure out how to make a working search feature, so now they're outsourcing the job to a bunch of GPUs lmao. I'm sure it'll still be worse than useless even with this new AI shit.
 
Null needed to skip ahead in the trailer, I guess I should have found a more stream friendly clip, it gets more violent, as is expected from a 1990s movie. But really it's just a heartwarming story of a guy who wants to see his kid's birthday.
Agree that it might be a movie Null could appreciate. Or at least this clip:

 
I genuinely struggle to think of what subreddits would be worth paying for. I think their best bet would be to target porn and make any 18+ age gated content subscriber only. They would want to leave the small subs open so that people actually join and use their platform and it would keep them relevant in Google search results. They already basically do this because if you even want to visit gun subs you need to sign in and consent to 18+.

The benefit they'd have in Reddit Gold allowing people to see porn is that it's a good way for people to hide their motivations in buying it and selling it. Reddit can say that they're selling a whole suite of features and that the agegated content is just a byproduct, and the consumers can say the same thing.
A good side-effect of gating porn behind payment is it stops children from accessing it.
 
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