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mindlessobserver said:
Not copy pasta actually, its very heartfelt. I wrote that myself and I meant every word.
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I actually appreciated it - it was so beautiful I think it should be elevated to copypasta level.

The Internet may have ruined my ability to express appreciation.
 
I'll be more onboard with Dragon Shield Custom Sleeves if they don't spam the fucking commercial on Youtube. I'm going to be making some for the Lord of the Nazguls.
 
Don't you think this is kinda over the top? Dude's just opened a pack.
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Not really, no. Magic:The Gathering already skirts with two incredibly touchstone religious philosophies. Namely, occult magics warned about in the Christian tradition, and the unseen world of the fairies warned about in celtic religious practice.

Not surprising it's a synthesis. It emerges from the English speaking Celtic milieu. It's dangerous however in the context of combining that with Tolkien and then making the One Ring the singular atavstic focus of the enterprise.

Even if you are not superstitious, you have to admit there is something deeply wrong with making the One Ring the most coveted card in the game right. Worth millions of dollars apparently. Tolkien would be horrified by the notion. Probably even more then I am, and I am so horrified I wish damnation on the enterprise.

I will not be surprised at all that in the coming years everyone around that card comes to misfortune.
 
mindlessobserver said:
Even if you are not superstitious, you have to admit there is something deeply wrong with making the One Ring the most coveted card in the game right. Worth millions of dollars apparently. Tolkien would be horrified by the notion. Probably even more then I am, and I am so horrified I wish damnation on the enterprise.
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I am on board the "tempted by the ring" mechanic is a flavor fail.

Decipher's game is probably my pick for best flavor capture ever. The ring could grant you great power (in both stat boosts and converting wounds to keep you alive) but repeated use would bring you closer to corruption every step and potentially lose you the game anyway if you weren't careful.

Magic has built their entire game around the idea that Boromir was right all along.
 
WotC put up a survey, in regards to the LoTR Set. One of the questions in it, pertains to the "changes" made to the characters and the cards:

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But of course, since this is a survey, NotC will live up to their name, and do nothing.
 
mindlessobserver said:
Not really, no. Magic:The Gathering already skirts with two incredibly touchstone religious philosophies. Namely, occult magics warned about in the Christian tradition, and the unseen world of the fairies warned about in celtic religious practice.

Not surprising it's a synthesis. It emerges from the English speaking Celtic milieu. It's dangerous however in the context of combining that with Tolkien and then making the One Ring the singular atavstic focus of the enterprise.

Even if you are not superstitious, you have to admit there is something deeply wrong with making the One Ring the most coveted card in the game right. Worth millions of dollars apparently. Tolkien would be horrified by the notion. Probably even more then I am, and I am so horrified I wish damnation on the enterprise.

I will not be surprised at all that in the coming years everyone around that card comes to misfortune.
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I've started to view corporatism in the creative space to be like training AI. There is no required understanding of the images and works of art upon which they derive their products. The only thing that matters is the reward function in the form of profits. These products will continue to degrade and become less recognizable from the source material over time, but so long as the reward function is maximized it doesn't matter. One day instead of Sauron being represented as a terrifying presence made manifest you will be looking at a glob of nonsensical lines and shapes. Edited to appeal to ESG algorithms that nobody understands and enforced by people who feel as though they have to because everyone else does.

"The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own."
 
If they really cared they would have polled before they commissioned art; it's not as though backlash for changing established characters is a new thing. Marketing is just looking for numbers to cover it's ass because some exec somewhere regained just enough consciousness to question why they were intentionally fucking with fans of an established fandom at the same time they were trying to convince them to buy their first hit of cardboard crack.
 
If any of you are looking for a fun time on arena, I’ve discovered that no one reads the ward cost on the new grixis sauron and have been playing brawl with it to some success. I’ve had multiple shame scoops after a removal spell gets btfo’d, and it’s such a warm happy feeling that makes me wonder if I need to play more counterspells in my non-arena life.
 
I know I feel the eternal siren's call of the counterspell. I pick up a standard deck list and say to myself "Mono white humans? Looks good... but what if I added some islands and 4 make disappears? Certainly it's a reasonable thing to add to a Thaila deck trying to tap out to cast threats every turn, right? Just a little counterspell, as a treat."
 
Oddjob OTP said:
I know I feel the eternal siren's call of the counterspell. I pick up a standard deck list and say to myself "Mono white humans? Looks good... but what if I added some islands and 4 make disappears? Certainly it's a reasonable thing to add to a Thaila deck trying to tap out to cast threats every turn, right? Just a little counterspell, as a treat."
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Counterspelling a Wrath is a very good feeling, but these days it's not even necessary.
 
Retink Retunk said:
Counterspelling a Wrath is a very good feeling, but these days it's not even necessary.
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Yeah, that was actually sort of the feeling behind my shitpost. Last night I played a standard humans deck in ranked for economy reasons (needed white spell casts) and matched into a dufus playing near mono white humans with esper mana (I never found out what the blue was for though). His game plan was sound enough, he was playing the orzov human from aftermath that you can sacrifice to give your humans indestructible along side depopulate to make it a one sided board wipe. I mopped the floor with him because I kept casting better card quality humans to keep up pressure and then refilled my hand with the new convoke 5 drop 4/4 that lets you pick up 2 additional creatures out of your top 7 cards making his depopulates into just stalling the inevitable.
 
Oddjob OTP said:
Yeah, that was actually sort of the feeling behind my shitpost. Last night I played a standard humans deck in ranked for economy reasons (needed white spell casts) and matched into a dufus playing near mono white humans with esper mana (I never found out what the blue was for though). His game plan was sound enough, he was playing the orzov human from aftermath that you can sacrifice to give your humans indestructible along side depopulate to make it a one sided board wipe. I mopped the floor with him because I kept casting better card quality humans to keep up pressure and then refilled my hand with the new convoke 5 drop 4/4 that lets you pick up 2 additional creatures out of your top 7 cards making his depopulates into just stalling the inevitable.
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It's still pretty ridiculous if you ask me.
 
Oddjob OTP said:
I know I feel the eternal siren's call of the counterspell. I pick up a standard deck list and say to myself "Mono white humans? Looks good... but what if I added some islands and 4 make disappears? Certainly it's a reasonable thing to add to a Thaila deck trying to tap out to cast threats every turn, right? Just a little counterspell, as a treat."
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Local man brings crossbow to pistol shooting competition. Wonders why everyone is looking at him weird.
 
Oddjob OTP said:
Yeah, that was actually sort of the feeling behind my shitpost. Last night I played a standard humans deck in ranked for economy reasons (needed white spell casts) and matched into a dufus playing near mono white humans with esper mana (I never found out what the blue was for though). His game plan was sound enough, he was playing the orzov human from aftermath that you can sacrifice to give your humans indestructible along side depopulate to make it a one sided board wipe. I mopped the floor with him because I kept casting better card quality humans to keep up pressure and then refilled my hand with the new convoke 5 drop 4/4 that lets you pick up 2 additional creatures out of your top 7 cards making his depopulates into just stalling the inevitable.
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The biggest problem is every card is a threat in itself, so gaining value with board wipes isn't as good as it once was. It also hurts limited formats quite a lot as the higher power and ability bloat of cards makes even slight hiccups in mana feel absolutely terrible and Counterspells are no longer the tools of control, but rather tempo which only exasperates problems.
 
So word on the street is One Ring is warping formats.
 
Flexo said:
So word on the street is One Ring is warping formats.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5SDxsSGKd0ohttps://youtube.com/watch?v=xE8XtVvrLNkhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=fRMvmI_rcZk
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Wow no shit, repeatible card advantage in exchange for life has always been busted. Did they learn nothing from Sylvian Library and Necropotence?
The One Ring is even worse though because it offers even more card advantage every turn and you can play it in any color. Including White, which has Lifelink as a primary ability on its color pie. Add the recent life gains in 4 power matters ETBs and you balance off the life loss. Essentially WBG just got an insanely efficient and hard to interact with draw engine with minimal downside. And that's another fucking thing, nearly the only ways to remove this card after it hits the field is to either exile it or enchant it. Something a WG deck can easily prevent or undo later. At least with Necro you had a permanent that could be killed, but once it hits the board and you are playing anything but white for exile you are essentially fucked.
 
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macrodegenerate said:
Wow no shit, repeatible card advantage in exchange for life has always been busted. Did they learn nothing from Sylvian Library and Necropotence?
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Well I was also posting for...
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
The 1/1 Ring is worth a billionty dollars sure but is there anyone outside of Content Creators who really think they are going to get it? and how will it retain Value if The One Ring itself..it really isn't playable (Outside of Arguably in EDH I haven't played it yet to actually test it)
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I was also watching some fun looking Sam-food decks out there. Seems more of the set may be playable than first estimated...
 
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