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From what ive been told, the lore of MTG back in the was dark, gritty and overall better than what we have nowadays. Question for the elders of the game: Has the lore of mtg gotten more vanilla/more shit in recent times or has it improve from that one time that urza genocided a plane.
 
00R-Gundam said:
From what ive been told, the lore of MTG back in the was dark, gritty and overall better than what we have nowadays. Question for the elders of the game: Has the lore of mtg gotten more vanilla/more shit in recent times or has it improve from that one time that urza genocided a plane.
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It went up and down for many years, the brothers war book was great, the other urza books are less so
 
I remember really enjoying the first four novels way back when. I enjoyed the novels less as time went on, although whether it was due to the quality going down or my own tastes changing, I cannot say.
 
Angry Crustacean said:
I remember really enjoying the first four novels way back when. I enjoyed the novels less as time went on, although whether it was due to the quality going down or my own tastes changing, I cannot say.
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I remember hating Bloodlines and liking the other 3 of that set.

Also apparently Serra's ghost appeared to Elspeth to make Elspeth self rez into an angel.

That was random.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
I think the biggest thing that really inflates the price of Magic the Gathering is the Lands.

Back in the day Nonbasic Lands were (with a few exceptions) Trash, now even a Mono Colored Standard Deck has to sink cash into some non basic utility lands.
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The new lands all fall in between the OG good ones and OG bad ones. Triomes and shock lands will never be as good as the original duals, but things like Alara/Tarkir tri colors are such a massive improvement on things like the Homelands cycle that it's not even funny.

And degenerate mono black nonbasics go back to Alliances, at least.
00R-Gundam said:
From what ive been told, the lore of MTG back in the was dark, gritty and overall better than what we have nowadays. Question for the elders of the game: Has the lore of mtg gotten more vanilla/more shit in recent times or has it improve from that one time that urza genocided a plane.
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Magic lore has always been all over the place, especially since the more episodic nature makes it more granular than Warhammer and suchlike. Like, the Homelands comic is weird but engaging (Rabecca Guay art really helps) but the set itself was famously underpowered. Ravnica was a famously good set mechanics wise, but the novels were aggressively okay. The Izolda/Lyzolda fuck up also heralded a thing they keep doing where the writers and card designers aren't talking to each other properly, something that really jumped out in the WotS novel.
 
Krokodil Overdose said:
The new lands all fall in between the OG good ones and OG bad ones. Triomes and shock lands will never be as good as the original duals, but things like Alara/Tarkir tri colors are such a massive improvement on things like the Homelands cycle that it's not even funny.
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Well even the junky common lands are amazing compared to what i got as a kid. The etb tapped lands at least have basic land types unlike the uncommon invasion cycle
 
Retink Retunk said:
That's not true, I'm pretty sure they called him a Praetor in the books back then, but I don't have them on hand. However, in the Vanguard card flavor text, which came out in the late 90's he's defined as a praetor.
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While it wasn't a Phyrexian one they were using the word Praetor as far back as Fallen Empires.

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Got a copy of this somewhere in the card pile I believe.

Funniest part is if you could see the judge here as some sort of fly it could be from the most recent set.
 
00R-Gundam said:
From what ive been told, the lore of MTG back in the was dark, gritty and overall better than what we have nowadays. Question for the elders of the game: Has the lore of mtg gotten more vanilla/more shit in recent times or has it improve from that one time that urza genocided a plane.
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I was introduced to MTG lore with being listed Urza's war crimes and told he was still the 'good' guy. As horribly inaccurate as that is, dickhead wizards vs robot zombies was peak 90's edge. While it made a strong concept, the writing varied from strong to poor as others have stated.

I really liked the experiment stage of the early 2000's. Bouncing between planes in 3 story acts while also setting up future plots. The major problem with was if a block's premise didn't hook you, your still stuck with it for a year. The set ups never really paid off very well either. They aren't anything spectacular but I enjoyed the Lorwyn and Shadowmoor books.

For the most part, the early plot was considered window dressing that just so happen to resonate with fans. That changed in the tens, where they took the plot and put it center stage. This was a huge shift in how development for lore worked out and unintentionally shrunk the world building aspect. You can see this with the the decline and eventual end of "planeswalker guides to..." They're short reads but were a lore fags dream.
 
00R-Gundam said:
From what ive been told, the lore of MTG back in the was dark, gritty and overall better than what we have nowadays. Question for the elders of the game: Has the lore of mtg gotten more vanilla/more shit in recent times or has it improve from that one time that urza genocided a plane.
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Honestly, yes. It's a homogeneous pile of flavorless narrative oatmeal. I was happy to find some of the older novels at a resale shop last year. War of the Spark was so plain. They spent pages just talking about indoor plumbing.
 
Noebel said:
His fursona is a tree. What the fuck is there to not understand? If you 25 and have money this deck is must play!
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THis is my problem with the whole PW fursona bull shit. So the golem one becomes a silver tree? Are there other treefolks in this plane? (not that I've seen so far) So Karn can survive the stresses of time travel by going to bloomburrow roots him in place? What would happen to tezzeret? Would he be half tree and half rat?

Every day I hate this set more.
 
PonderosaPete said:
Like a temporal anchor?
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Ok I'll give you a point for making me laugh. ;)

Still I mean the guy is literally made out of silver. Why doesn't he just become a rock with a face?
 
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