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Endless Torment said:
Standard lacks eggs and mana rocks so it's worthless, but I imagine it could do something somewhere besides EDH.
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Maybe, but I struggle to think of any Affinity deck that needs to have a 6 drop without Affinity in play before it pops off.
 
Endless Torment said:
Standard lacks eggs and mana rocks so it's worthless, but I imagine it could do something somewhere besides EDH.
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It doesn't have affinity, it gives things affinity. It can do some disgusting things sure but you have to fairly cast a 6 mana spell or build an entire deck around cheating it out AND fit in artifacts to enable it AND put in a pay off for all the mana you are cheating. Like I can imagine a creativity build that does the first 2 things but not one that can live long enough to do the third with all the interaction you had to cut to make room
 
I could see some use for it with Goryo's. Affinity lets you play shit for free. Cantripping eggs / baubles costing 0 allows you to churn through a big portion of your deck, and we haven't previously had this sort of effect for them - Mycosynth Golem only affected artifact creatures, for example, and wasn't legendary so it was harder to reanimate. Ripping through cantrips to cast a series of X spells at steep discounts doesn't seem totally unreasonable, if a little unreliable. Also Storm, obviously.

Grinding Station lets you load up your graveyard and doubles as the wincon, and you really only need the thing on the board for one turn. Underworld Breach means that you can replay some artifact endlessly if you keep milling yourself with Station.

It's also in Jeskai colors, which has had the Ascendancy combo with Emry for a while. This allows you to play a star from your GY to arbitrarily draw as many cards as you want while making your creatures arbitrarily large - though getting a six-drop out there would be more difficult, obviously.
 
Oddjob OTP said:
It doesn't have affinity, it gives things affinity. It can do some disgusting things sure but you have to fairly cast a 6 mana spell or build an entire deck around cheating it out AND fit in artifacts to enable it AND put in a pay off force all the mana you are cheating. Like I can imagine a creativity build that does the first 2 things but not one that can live long enough to do the third with all the interaction you had to cut to make room
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I must've phrased my post poorly because you're saying what I meant. Affinity decks aren't in the business of fairly casting 6 mana spells. 4 tends to be the absolute maximum and that's with cards like Springleaf Drum.

Polock said:
something something blood tokens
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???
 
Rich Evans Ayypologist said:
I could see some use for it with Goryo's. Affinity lets you play shit for free. Cantripping eggs / baubles costing 0 allows you to churn through a big portion of your deck, and we haven't previously had this sort of effect for them - Mycosynth Golem only affected artifact creatures, for example, and wasn't legendary so it was harder to reanimate. Ripping through cantrips to cast a series of X spells at steep discounts doesn't seem totally unreasonable, if a little unreliable. Also Storm, obviously.

Grinding Station lets you load up your graveyard and doubles as the wincon, and you really only need the thing on the board for one turn. Underworld Breach means that you can replay some artifact endlessly if you keep milling yourself with Station.

It's also in Jeskai colors, which has had the Ascendancy combo with Emry for a while. This allows you to play a star from your GY to arbitrarily draw as many cards as you want while making your creatures arbitrarily large - though getting a six-drop out there would be more difficult, obviously.
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Combo I can understand even though Breach is banned.
 
DootSkeleton said:
I must've phrased my post poorly because you're saying what I meant. Affinity decks aren't in the business of fairly casting 6 mana spells. 4 tends to be the absolute maximum and that's with cards like Springleaf Drum.
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More that I posted it 2 minute later and I think my gutcheck on the card made the post different enough to not just sigh and delete
 
I guess the end stone and marketback walker could be draw combo pieces for the hypothetical artifact affinity storm deck in standard.
Maybe weapons manufacturing and a sac outlet could be the win con?
I don't think it's good, but there has to be some deck you could make.
 
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Standard Showdown Promo. Lol. LMAO even.

Also, it's been really fun watching spoilers for cards now that AI is such a big thorn in peoples sides. When they see art they don't like, they just assume it used AI in some way. Example:
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People on MagicSpoiler thought this was (at least partially) AI generated. The seething is almost more fun than the card game at this point.
 
Very Professional said:
While it's admittedly ridiculous after years of UB and sets like Karlov Manor or Thunder Junction, this set just bothers me on a thematic level. Magic has had magitek since 1995 but this doesn't convey that kind of flavor at all. Nothing about this feels fantastic, half of it feels AI-generated, and just casually dropping that this long-running fantasy multiverse is surrounded by a half-cocked sci-fi setting is the kind of baffling retcon (that I'm sure will never be followed up) that makes Warcraft interns look like fucking Kirkbride.
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Edge is a thematic fail for MTG, a hat set through-and-through. No rhyme or reason just poof we're now in giga future apple-iSpace with all the modern light shows and modern sensibility with the same twist every other set is built with but this time in space...

I say all this with exception for my baby...

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Lookit this beauty. A gigantic space platform forged from fiery molten magic and dark plated steel. If this was the style and design these hat sets woulda had instead of the disney-flavor they had we woulda been eating great. When in doubt, throw more evil steel and dark magic at it to get it to how magic should feel.
 
toallyreel said:
Edge is a thematic fail for MTG, a hat set through-and-through. No rhyme or reason just poof we're now in giga future apple-iSpace with all the modern light shows and modern sensibility with the same twist every other set is built with but this time in space...
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I feel that there are threads that could be interesting that just don't have the time or effort put into them. Space cult talking about the "Faller" could be interesting, though I imagine that's been already fumbled in the story. I guess its natural you'll have some leads if you just throw all the tropes you know. At this point I look forward to seeing how they make Lorwyn bad.

For cards, I will admit that weapons manufacturing got me brewing for a minute, although I think it suffers that Vivi Ornitier just got printed and I don't know a format where Vivi isn't just preferable. I did like the idea that Engineered Explosives can be used both for a 0 cost and to pop all the munitions. Maybe in EDH where you could reasonably use token doublers, but then you are in the unfortunate situation of playing EDH.
 
toallyreel said:
Edge is a thematic fail for MTG, a hat set through-and-through. No rhyme or reason just poof we're now in giga future apple-iSpace with all the modern light shows and modern sensibility with the same twist every other set is built with but this time in space...
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Pretty much admitted in MaRo's latest.
For years, we've talked about the idea of doing a set that takes place in space, but decided against it. This wasn't because we didn't think it would be cool or that we couldn't execute it well. Mostly, it was because we worried players wouldn't accept it as Magic.​

I chose to put Unfinity in space because of how many times a space set had come up and we had decided against it. I hoped that by making a set in space, we could demonstrate how Magic could incorporate it. For example, the lands set in space were wildly popular.​

The idea of doing a space set came back as a result of our return to Kamigawa in Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty. We wanted to create a setting that was influenced by Japanese pop culture. We ended up making that setting Kamigawa and playing into a theme of the past versus the future. This encouraged us to make a portion of the set more futuristic than we had ever done before. The audience adored the set, and it made Bill realize that we could be more adventurous when it came to approaching science fiction and science fantasy. I pointed out that most space opera stories were mainly fantasy stories with a science-fiction aesthetic. That inspired Bill to say "We should go to space."​
 
Flexo said:
Pretty much admitted in MaRo's latest.
For years, we've talked about the idea of doing a set that takes place in space, but decided against it. This wasn't because we didn't think it would be cool or that we couldn't execute it well. Mostly, it was because we worried players wouldn't accept it as Magic.​

I chose to put Unfinity in space because of how many times a space set had come up and we had decided against it. I hoped that by making a set in space, we could demonstrate how Magic could incorporate it. For example, the lands set in space were wildly popular.​

The idea of doing a space set came back as a result of our return to Kamigawa in Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty. We wanted to create a setting that was influenced by Japanese pop culture. We ended up making that setting Kamigawa and playing into a theme of the past versus the future. This encouraged us to make a portion of the set more futuristic than we had ever done before. The audience adored the set, and it made Bill realize that we could be more adventurous when it came to approaching science fiction and science fantasy. I pointed out that most space opera stories were mainly fantasy stories with a science-fiction aesthetic. That inspired Bill to say "We should go to space."​
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TDLR : we put effort into Kamigawa and people liked it, so we just thought we could do whatever slop we wanted
 
I like EoE because the space theme and the planet cards. Lore wise i think this will be disastrous but then again i havent touched lore since War of the spark
 
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